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People should just play the decks that I win against!

 Freeze Shaman?

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Those websites are mostly contributed to by people who lack imagination to make their own decks - hence they look the best ones up online - and thus the sample sizes stated there are small, lacking flexibility, imagination, adaptation and due to the aforementioned factors are poop. 

Here's one example : Control warlock 44% win rate in R5-legend. Laughable. That deck can be teched to smash tempo rogue and has a somewhat acceptable 45-55 matchup vs priest, only suffering at the hands of jade. 

Grain of salt should be added to any information fed by such media. Legend was based on ONE THOUSAND games across all decks. Neat. Just two weeks ago Raza deck also happened to have 70% win rate in that same group of useless contributors.

I'd expect you to post all data from a website you're using as an argument, sir.

I mean, look :

Adding the current "META DATA" and the one from 2 weeks ago, we can add 2 and 2 together, resulting in the website being worthless. Most of the matchups between classes are blank. Whether the priest is broken beyond bullshit levels or the weakest deck in the world - The sample size from VS never should be taken into consideration. This week all 4500 of them just played raza, against each other, resulting in a 50% win rate. Next week they will all play SMOrc hunter, draggin shaman to a 90% win rate.

Listen to pro's and your own gut in these cases, or communities of knowledgable players :)

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There are so many these post about nerfing priest

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There are so many these post about nerfing priest

 That should be an indication there is a problem. When you start to see a significant portion of the community salty about the same card(s), it might make sense to take a closer look at it.  

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There are so many these post about nerfing priest

 That should be an indication there is a problem. When you start to see a significant portion of the community salty about the same card(s), it might make sense to take a closer look at it.  

I'd rather still just nerf Jade Idol, Malfurion and all the 1/5 taunts for the class and leave Priest as is.

Priest has never been a top tier deck and it has been DECLINING not rising in the meta too. Let it stay there for a moment. It's not a uncounterable deck either. It's POPULAR doesn't mean it's broken.

Not only that Raza is leaving standard really soon, and the DK itself is fine on its own. Though I agree Reno Priest will be a problem in wild for many expansions still. But then again, so is Jade.

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I'd rather still just nerf Jade Idol, Malfurion and all the 1/5 taunts for the class and leave Priest as is.

Priest has never been a top tier deck and it has been DECLINING not rising in the meta too. Let it stay there for a moment. It's not a uncounterable deck either. It's POPULAR doesn't mean it's broken.

Not only that Raza is leaving standard really soon, and the DK itself is fine on its own. Though I agree Reno Priest will be a problem in wild for many expansions still. But then again, so is Jade.

I do agree about wild... IMHO, WIld should have the cards as they were printed. Like you said, let it be a clusterfuck. 

But, also just IMHO, the only legitimate "argument" that is made for priest not deserving a nerf is that they have been a low tier class, so let them have their time to shine. Every other argument just requires you to look back at the most recent nerfs, and look at the nerf to Quest Rogue. 

Jade could be countered ... by aggro ... same as Highlander priest. 

Druid as whole needed a nerf because it occupied more than one top slot in the meta. Priest was at that point as well. Yes, its falling, and hunter and other aggro decks are rising because of it. Thankfully there isn't a technical "aggro priest", or it would be damn near the same as druidstone was. 

Quest Rogue wasn't a massively OP deck, and it's winrate wasn't over the top either. It was the way it won, and the way it was played ... you know .. not "fun and interactive" enough. Nothing is fun or interactive when a priest doesn't get screwed by RNGesus. 

And as far as it is going to cycle out "soon" ... that is 2 expansions away. I really don't want to listen to the constant dredge about nerfing it for the next 4 months honestly. 

I honestly believe it deserves a nerf. Just drop Shadowform down to 1 damage. It would still be a pain to play against because the crazy control would still be there. It just wouldn't make Raza/Anduin an auto win condition. They could still happily BM away while firing there shadowbolt machine gun. 

There are interesting ideas here, but we have too many threads discussing nerfs for this already.  Feel free to re-post these nerf suggestions in one of the existing threads.

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/card-discussion/204401-way-to-make-raza-dk-priest-less-oppressive-nerf

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/card-discussion/204484-when-the-hell-are-priests-dk-going-to-be-nerfed

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