This card is being abused with spellpower too much. For 2 mana it makes a very big thread. It shouldnt be buffed with spellpower to become a normal clear card.
It is a goddamn two card removal then. Is anyone whining about pyro-equality?
This how it works bro... welcome to HS.... Defile will totally defile the meta for the next 6 months and then they will nerf it and make it unplayable when it switches to wild...
See every other OP card in HS history... Patrons... Dr. Doom... Shredders... Undertaker... Leroy... Savage Roar... etc... etc... etc...
If you dont like defile you will just have to wait... The lazy dev are using it to keep a whole swath of incredible decks from breaking through... and then when they cycle out a ton of cards they will be like... omg, look at all these decks that have been here the whole time that no one has tried... and everyone is like omg I had no idea... kappa...
Any of ya that are complaining it's too overpowered, are obviously not playing around it. I play all 9 classes semi evenly, whatever floats my boat that day, and I can say with certainty that adding in cards that make you THINK, is amazing. But hey, maybe you're just looking for a dumb game of throwing flappy bird into face, (aka vicious fledgling) who knows? :P
If defile is really your issue, then you have nothing to complain about, there are far more irritating ways to die, then the fact that you let your board be wiped to a card that takes brains to use.
Warlock was frankly struggling with board clears before this, IMO.
At least you can play AROUND defile. Other cards, not so much so.
But that's just my two cents. I dearly hope blizzard doesn't nerf it cause of players like you OP, who hate smart cards.
Hey guys, I know it's only 3rd day after release and people are already calling for fix/nerf but this gotta stop... Defile is simply too op. I playrd with deahtrattle hunter and I had a lot of sticky minions and board with zombeasts summoned by N'zoth and with 2 FUCKING MANA the board is simply cleared. I am not only frustrated but really pissed off by some op cards. One of them could be as well spreading plague bcs when it's played you gotta press that fucking red concede button.
I think that it should cost 3/4mana or just trigger maximum 3 times.
Defile is a very situational card which is horrible in some situations and game winning in others. Cards like defile add skill to the game because good players will play around it when they can and bad players will play right into it. Good players will also find creative ways to make it work, such as playing leeroy and then playing defile, which is a play I don't think a lot of bad players would see. In my opinion we need a lot more cards like defile.
The problem isn't defile the problem is just that hunter sucks. It sucks really really badly. Believe me I've been trying to make it work this expansion as well but it's just so bad.
Defile will totally defile the meta for the next 6 months and then they will nerf it and make it unplayable when it switches to wild...
The next rotation hits Gadgetzhan and Old Gods next year around April in 2018. Defile and KFT won't rotate until around April the year after that in 2019.
I would agree with everyone saying that Defile is a card that takes skill to make good and I think we need more cards like that. It is like the position matters cards they used to print, except this time it is avoiding the 1,2,3,etc. health pattern. That Leeroy Defile combo looked amazing but there were probably other ways that could have been done, too.
Defile will totally defile the meta for the next 6 months and then they will nerf it and make it unplayable when it switches to wild...
The next rotation hits Gadgetzhan and Old Gods next year around April in 2018. Defile and KFT won't rotate until around April the year after that in 2019.
I would agree with everyone saying that Defile is a card that takes skill to make good and I think we need more cards like that. It is like the position matters cards they used to print, except this time it is avoiding the 1,2,3,etc. health pattern. That Leeroy Defile combo looked amazing but there were probably other ways that could have been done, too.
i have been thinking of Bloodmage + defile
just like the leroy combo, it still does 3 damage (2 damage from spellpower + 1 more after thalnos dies) and goes on and on [4 mana combo + cycle]
if combo-ed with tainted zealot, you could do 5 damage: 2 damage from spell power (has to kill a minion though) + 2 damage from another spellpower -> the zealot dies -> another damage [4 mana combo, more damage, but no cycle]
Sometimes defile gives you a board clear, and sometimes you use it to clear a 1-health minion. It's certainly not an automatic board clear. You have to know how to use it, and, generally, your opponent has to be a little unaware of it. If your opponent is throwing out big minions, it's obviously less effective.
I like the card because it's fairly skill-based and not just an auto-clear. Also, it's the first time I've been able to play control warrior for the longest time. It's hard to complain about a archetype that's finally become viable after so long. That's all it is, viable, not op, I think. It's just that warlocks don't just get run over anymore, which is more balanced.
Like someone else said, hunter is just not strong right now anyway. Frankly, decks that just depend on vomiting cards and going face bore me, to play, and to play against. If someone plays around my defile, at least they've put a little thought into the match, and, if I use it well, at least I thought it through properly.
Yeah, it's situational enough that I'm fine with it.
Regarding spell damage, remember that your spell damage boosting minion will likely die in the middle of the castings, dropping the damage back to one.
Defile will totally defile the meta for the next 6 months and then they will nerf it and make it unplayable when it switches to wild...
The next rotation hits Gadgetzhan and Old Gods next year around April in 2018. Defile and KFT won't rotate until around April the year after that in 2019.
I would agree with everyone saying that Defile is a card that takes skill to make good and I think we need more cards like that. It is like the position matters cards they used to print, except this time it is avoiding the 1,2,3,etc. health pattern. That Leeroy Defile combo looked amazing but there were probably other ways that could have been done, too.
For Defile to be good warlock needs the other cards that came from Gadgetzhan and Old Gods. Defile will be good till April (6 months) and then the team will use the next expansion to push a different set of cards.
Cards like Defile are made specifically to corral the meta in a certain direction, because matchmaker will just hard counter you if you make a token deck that would otherwise wreck the meta... make a token/aggro deck and watch as the warlocks find you... make a jade deck and watch all the priests find you...
Point is Defile is here to stay... for 6 months... and then its services will no longer be required because warlock will no longer be used as a counter deck... because the "meta" will have been preemptively shifted to different heroes with new, shockly OP synergies that require a minimum amount of fresh cards (muh dust)...
Just watch it unfold before your very eyes lol
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This how it works bro... welcome to HS.... Defile will totally defile the meta for the next 6 months and then they will nerf it and make it unplayable when it switches to wild...
See every other OP card in HS history... Patrons... Dr. Doom... Shredders... Undertaker... Leroy... Savage Roar... etc... etc... etc...
If you dont like defile you will just have to wait... The lazy dev are using it to keep a whole swath of incredible decks from breaking through... and then when they cycle out a ton of cards they will be like... omg, look at all these decks that have been here the whole time that no one has tried... and everyone is like omg I had no idea... kappa...
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And I haven't even opened any defiles.... XD
Any of ya that are complaining it's too overpowered, are obviously not playing around it. I play all 9 classes semi evenly, whatever floats my boat that day, and I can say with certainty that adding in cards that make you THINK, is amazing. But hey, maybe you're just looking for a dumb game of throwing flappy bird into face, (aka vicious fledgling) who knows? :P
If defile is really your issue, then you have nothing to complain about, there are far more irritating ways to die, then the fact that you let your board be wiped to a card that takes brains to use.
Warlock was frankly struggling with board clears before this, IMO.
At least you can play AROUND defile. Other cards, not so much so.
But that's just my two cents. I dearly hope blizzard doesn't nerf it cause of players like you OP, who hate smart cards.
Defile is a very situational card which is horrible in some situations and game winning in others. Cards like defile add skill to the game because good players will play around it when they can and bad players will play right into it. Good players will also find creative ways to make it work, such as playing leeroy and then playing defile, which is a play I don't think a lot of bad players would see. In my opinion we need a lot more cards like defile.
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I can see the limitation in the card but i also feel this card is undercosted for its effect.
Compare this card to spirit lash, same cost but i think we can all agree that defile is miles better.
Good for warlocks i guess but i think the card should have been a 3 or maybe even 4 cost card.
lmao @ OP playing hunter in 2017...
Defile is probably one of the best designed cards in the game.
Sounds like to me you dont know how to play around a card and got 360 windmill slam dunked on...gg Nerd
The problem isn't defile the problem is just that hunter sucks. It sucks really really badly. Believe me I've been trying to make it work this expansion as well but it's just so bad.
maybe not because the card is too op but because your deck is bad. defile is fair card. no need to nerf.
You still had a big hand and zombeast hero power . You most likely won, where is the problem ?
Warlock needs that card . And I don't play warlock at all.
Sometimes defile gives you a board clear, and sometimes you use it to clear a 1-health minion. It's certainly not an automatic board clear. You have to know how to use it, and, generally, your opponent has to be a little unaware of it. If your opponent is throwing out big minions, it's obviously less effective.
I like the card because it's fairly skill-based and not just an auto-clear. Also, it's the first time I've been able to play control warrior for the longest time. It's hard to complain about a archetype that's finally become viable after so long. That's all it is, viable, not op, I think. It's just that warlocks don't just get run over anymore, which is more balanced.
Like someone else said, hunter is just not strong right now anyway. Frankly, decks that just depend on vomiting cards and going face bore me, to play, and to play against. If someone plays around my defile, at least they've put a little thought into the match, and, if I use it well, at least I thought it through properly.
Defile is probably the only really good thing that has happened to Warlock since rotation, give us a break bro.
Yeah, it's situational enough that I'm fine with it.
Regarding spell damage, remember that your spell damage boosting minion will likely die in the middle of the castings, dropping the damage back to one.
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