Why are so many people only talking about the battlecry? The hero power is insane! With that hero power linked to it and the 5 armor you get, you really don't need to bring back that many demons for it to be worth playing.
B.Brode had rigged the game to discard this card. So, expect to always Discard this card when you play it. EVery good Warlock legendary will get discarded.
I don't think it would. It summons demons that have died, and you would have lost the game if Jaraxxus had died. Unless replacing Jaraxxus with Bloodreaver Gul'dan counts as killing him, but I don't think it will.
What I'm really interested in is whether playing Bloodreaver Gul'dan will set your life cap to 30 again. My guess is that it would do indeed, because as far as we know every time a hero is replaced that comes with its own life cap. The death Knights don't change your current life when played, but I'm pretty sure Gul'dan's life cap will be 30 again, allowing you to heal past 15 life again.
it seems hard to get a good demon recipe going for this in standard. i can see Kazakus decks working with this and Krul, but apart from that i guess we will have to try and see. Doomguard seems too risky and frustrating, although it would be the best demon to summon with this. i wonder if Felguard and Unlicensed Apothecary can make this work.
Pretty sure that if you bring back the Apothecary with the other Demons - you die :)
It's ok, needs a few more tempo demons so that you don't lose when you play it. The problem is that the tempo demons that currently exist (doomguard, felhound kinda) are anti-synergy with control decks. As of now I'm not really sold but there are cards in that direction that help (the 4-5 that damages at end of turn).
The only good demon that makes this playable is Malganis, and he is in Wild
Krul? You kidding right? So turn 9 you play him and it dies (assuming no poly, hex, not so much silence) summons the demons that are in your hand and you have chosen NOT to play just for this moment. That is a nish escenario a HELLA NISH escenario.
I bet control hunter becomes an archetype before this card makes a T1 deck around him
Malganis is not the only good target. Doomguard, Lakkari Felhound and Despicable Dreadlord are good to be back from this. I'd even say that Doomguard and Despicable Dreadlord are better in some ways. Doomguard has charge and can affect the opponents board or push face right away. Despicable Dread Loard can actually help to wipe their board or entirely wipe their board just from the effect. Basically these guys can affect the board state before it's even their turn again.
Ya that and doomguards basically add do 10 damage to the battlecry. A deck built around this card can have insane combos, the question is can't a deck built around this card be viable?
What's happens when you Mulligan 2x doomguard and DK hero. Gg and that's the problem.
2 mana Drain life that deals and heals 3. Excellent. Plus a board full of demons so your turn isn't wasted like a priest casting 2 shadow forms. This is good. This is real good
Wow! It's amazing to me how people get jacked about shit cards and thumb down great cards.
Bloodreaver is a shit card.
Yes, the Hero Power is incredibly OP. 3 Heal and 3 Damage for 2 Mana is dope. However, we have to get there first.
Is there enough Demons to support Bloodreaver? Is there enough demons to support late game? I don't think so.
2 notable powerhouse Demons, Lakarri Felhound and Doomguard...have the Discard mechanic. We possibly can't put together a Bloodreaver Deck with these 2 in mix. The last thing you want is to discard your DK.
Everybody always talks about inconsistency. A Bloodreaver Deck would would be super inconsistent.
Wow! It's amazing to me how people get jacked about shit cards and thumb down great cards.
Bloodreaver is a shit card.
Yes, the Hero Power is incredibly OP. 3 Heal and 3 Damage for 2 Mana is dope. However, we have to get there first.
Is there enough Demons to support Bloodreaver? Is there enough demons to support late game? I don't think so.
2 notable powerhouse Demons, Lakarri Felhound and Doomguard...have the Discard mechanic. We possibly can't put together a Bloodreaver Deck with these 2 in mix. The last thing you want is to discard your DK.
Everybody always talks about inconsistency. A Bloodreaver Deck would would be super inconsistent.
You could easily afford to mix in Doomguard, it's practically always been run in practically every warlock deck since forever. Both that AND Lakkari Felhound, that is iffy. But don't forget about Despicable Dreadlord, that card is really good and also is good to get back from Bloodreaver.
So you don't need a LOT of demons, just a few good ones.
As far as getting to 10, Defile will be a HUGE help. Good early game board clear and decent mid game clear-ability as well. Lock already had really good late game clears with twisting nether. I think the new Drain Soul card is also good for solid spot removal and a bit more healing. Despicable Dreadlord is also a fantastic card in the mid game which also pushes Defile as a good removal tool.
Lastly, getting to 10 isn't terribly difficult for lock. The real issue for lock is they run out of steam in regards to both life total and decks size since they are working so hard to remove things and tapping all the while. Then they generally just die afterwards as they have essentially shot their load. With the edition of solid, efficient early/mid game removal they are in a better position to get to ten now. Bloodreaver Gul'dan not only puts value on the board with his battlecry he also helps with sustainability with the hero power.
I don't know for certain if this is enough to pull warlock into a solid position but it has to be better than now. Anyway you shouldn't call it a bad card, it's not. You should call it, if anything, not currently playable. But once it is playable it's insane.
Also, what happen if you're already Jaraxxus , then play this card? Wil it revert you back to 30 health + 5 armor ? or just + 5 armor on top of 15 health? OR you just can't play it since Lord Jaraxxus won't be happy if he's replaced by a pitiful Death Knight? :)
Also, what happen if you're already Jaraxxus , then play this card? Wil it revert you back to 30 health + 5 armor ? or just + 5 armor on top of 15 health? OR you just can't play it since Lord Jaraxxus won't be happy if he's replaced by a pitiful Death Knight? :)
Good question. If I had to guess though, you get the five armor and your health doesn't change and probably stays capped. But, maybe not.
Basically, try to kill everything until you reach Gul'dan or Jaraxxus.
I played a lot of Bloomdoom this meta and it was almost good. There may be hope for something like that here, too. I think it's cute that if you res 2 Dreadlords, you consecrate your opponent. Maybe you can work some Corpsetaker shenanigans in here too.
Does anyone know what happens when you play Jaraxxus and then Gul'dan, does your health pool goes back to a maximum of 30? Pretty important with the hero power and Reno.
Does anyone know what happens when you play Jaraxxus and then Gul'dan, does your health pool goes back to a maximum of 30? Pretty important with the hero power and Reno.
I quess your max lifetotal goes to 30. Jaraxxus is a minion that turns into a hero and changes your max health to 15, so i bet the Bloodreaver does so. I am as curious as you are.
Does anyone know what happens when you play Jaraxxus and then Gul'dan, does your health pool goes back to a maximum of 30? Pretty important with the hero power and Reno.
I quess your max lifetotal goes to 30. Jaraxxus is a minion that turns into a hero and changes your max health to 15, so i bet the Bloodreaver does so. I am as curious as you are.
Jarraxus is his own beast, these new DK Hero cards do not alter your current health in any way (other than the 5 armor gain).
Wow, Kazakus 10 mana spell for use with Cho'gall, and maybe Krul the Unshackled as an obnoxious overkill finisher?
Why are so many people only talking about the battlecry? The hero power is insane! With that hero power linked to it and the 5 armor you get, you really don't need to bring back that many demons for it to be worth playing.
B.Brode had rigged the game to discard this card. So, expect to always Discard this card when you play it. EVery good Warlock legendary will get discarded.
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People saying meta defining when Warlocks never get to turn 10 and barely have any viable demons.
It's ok, needs a few more tempo demons so that you don't lose when you play it. The problem is that the tempo demons that currently exist (doomguard, felhound kinda) are anti-synergy with control decks. As of now I'm not really sold but there are cards in that direction that help (the 4-5 that damages at end of turn).
Kazakus + Krull + DK. Very nice.
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2 mana Drain life that deals and heals 3. Excellent. Plus a board full of demons so your turn isn't wasted like a priest casting 2 shadow forms. This is good. This is real good
Also, what happen if you're already Jaraxxus , then play this card? Wil it revert you back to 30 health + 5 armor ? or just + 5 armor on top of 15 health? OR you just can't play it since Lord Jaraxxus won't be happy if he's replaced by a pitiful Death Knight? :)
A little theory craft here.
Basically, try to kill everything until you reach Gul'dan or Jaraxxus.
I played a lot of Bloomdoom this meta and it was almost good. There may be hope for something like that here, too.
I think it's cute that if you res 2 Dreadlords, you consecrate your opponent.
Maybe you can work some Corpsetaker shenanigans in here too.
Does anyone know what happens when you play Jaraxxus and then Gul'dan, does your health pool goes back to a maximum of 30? Pretty important with the hero power and Reno.
Release the Kraken!
Does Gul'dan replacing Jaraxxus destroy him ergo destroying a demon ergo resummon him?