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It's like an Evolve for your spells.  Sure you might get some garbage, but 1-2 good spells is worth it for some razor petals and coins.  I could see playing this card in miracle.  I don't think you could get worse spells in most cases.  To go from a Razorpetal to a Fireball or Flamestrike, that's value.  People will say that's a dream, but at some point you might get that swing turn.  This could replace 1 Gadgetzan Auctioneer. 

I think that the real strenght of this card is rerolling a bad hand of spells, like Sap against aggro matches.

Or when you're about to finish a game but you need just a little bit of damage to push through, but your hand consists of removal (Backstab, Fan ov Knives, Shadow Strike).

Sure, you might get completely screwed by RNG, but at least it gives you a chance, where not having the card would still leave you in a bad situation.

It's definetely not a card you play on curve and probably terrible in arena.

 

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Meh. Renounce the darkness with a body that then requires a follow up for the discount (and only affects cards in hand at that moment). And we've seen how much renounce gets played...

 I play Renounce all the time... but I don't win with it. This is a fun card. Like renounce. Like the new priest cards. Like the new mage x-mas tree. I get the feeling this expansion is full of fun cards... which means the meta is not likely to change much.

 How is this a fun card?

I can see Benedictus being fun (shuffling an entire deck) 

I see Renounce as being fun (trade in your whole deck for a random but discounted one) it does something no other card does on that scale

This card...does nothing fun...usually all it will do is switch out 2/3 rogue cards for random cards...no discounts, no bonuses, just trade them out.

Gratz you just played a yeti and essentally 2 hallucinations (only you had to ditch your good cards for the gamble....and you didnt even get to pick as its not discover)

Fun?

The only way I can see this working is mid to late game. If you get through your combo cards early an extra coin or prep have less value (aside from draw). This could be used to generate extra value from lower impact cards. Still a massive gamble. 

Liliana Vess?

I wish they would place Mana caps on cards like this.  A Coin becoming a Pyroblast ftw delights the winner and frustrates the loser.  To much of this exists in Lotterystone.  A Star on ladder they don't really deserve.  The high variance cards that lead to Hearthstone Pros looking at their defeated opponents like they just got lucky + shoulder shrug, undermines their accomplishment.

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 Do you know which other card was being played which just switched things out, without any discounts? Elise the Starseeker. Riddle me this, why would a control warrior switch out his cards for random cards that might not even be good or that don't synergize with his deck? You have to ditch all your good cards for the gamble that the legendaries you got were actually good.

The reason being that at some point or in some situations the cards you are running lose their effectiveness. Prep is a great card early in the game because it allows you to spend more mana in a turn than you would have but later it simply gets relegated to fodder for Gadgetzan Auctioneer where you are hoping to use it to cycle through your deck to cards that are MORE USEFUL. Guess what? In many cases the spells of another cards are vastly more effective than the ones of Rogue (barring the exception of a combo'd Eviscerate and maybe Backstab). And even those cards you can still end up cycling with Auctioneer if you really wanted to, albeit not quite as effective.

Basically you are trading in tools that grant tempo when there is nothing to give it tempo to or the tempo is not enough because you actually need more value.

 

ehh i'll probably craft it because it's Lillian voss. i like her little story in the undead zone. she's kinda like the player, but she made a few mistakes along the way, and now she's trying to fix them.

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 Do you know which other card was being played which just switched things out, without any discounts? Elise the Starseeker. Riddle me this, why would a control warrior switch out his cards for random cards that might not even be good or that don't synergize with his deck? You have to ditch all your good cards for the gamble that the legendaries you got were actually good.

The reason being that at some point or in some situations the cards you are running lose their effectiveness. Prep is a great card early in the game because it allows you to spend more mana in a turn than you would have but later it simply gets relegated to fodder for Gadgetzan Auctioneer where you are hoping to use it to cycle through your deck to cards that are MORE USEFUL. Guess what? In many cases the spells of another cards are vastly more effective than the ones of Rogue (barring the exception of a combo'd Eviscerate and maybe Backstab). And even those cards you can still end up cycling with Auctioneer if you really wanted to, albeit not quite as effective.

Basically you are trading in tools that grant tempo when there is nothing to give it tempo to or the tempo is not enough because you actually need more value.

 

 Not disparaging Voss's power level but I really don't think this is a good comparison. Not only are random Legendaries on average going to have a higher power level than random class spells (especially when you could pull things like Shatter) but Control Warriors typically played the Monkey towards the end of the game in near top deck scenarios. In that situation you can pretty much always play the legendary minion you draw regardless of how good it is, but random spells are much less likely to be actually useful.

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Meh. Renounce the darkness with a body that then requires a follow up for the discount (and only affects cards in hand at that moment). And we've seen how much renounce gets played...

 I play Renounce all the time... but I don't win with it. This is a fun card. Like renounce. Like the new priest cards. Like the new mage x-mas tree. I get the feeling this expansion is full of fun cards... which means the meta is not likely to change much.

 How is this a fun card?

I can see Benedictus being fun (shuffling an entire deck) 

I see Renounce as being fun (trade in your whole deck for a random but discounted one) it does something no other card does on that scale

This card...does nothing fun...usually all it will do is switch out 2/3 rogue cards for random cards...no discounts, no bonuses, just trade them out.

Gratz you just played a yeti and essentally 2 hallucinations (only you had to ditch your good cards for the gamble....and you didnt even get to pick as its not discover)

Fun?

 Do you know which other card was being played which just switched things out, without any discounts? Elise the Starseeker. Riddle me this, why would a control warrior switch out his cards for random cards that might not even be good or that don't synergize with his deck? You have to ditch all your good cards for the gamble that the legendaries you got were actually good.

The reason being that at some point or in some situations the cards you are running lose their effectiveness. Prep is a great card early in the game because it allows you to spend more mana in a turn than you would have but later it simply gets relegated to fodder for Gadgetzan Auctioneer where you are hoping to use it to cycle through your deck to cards that are MORE USEFUL. Guess what? In many cases the spells of another cards are vastly more effective than the ones of Rogue (barring the exception of a combo'd Eviscerate and maybe Backstab). And even those cards you can still end up cycling with Auctioneer if you really wanted to, albeit not quite as effective.

Basically you are trading in tools that grant tempo when there is nothing to give it tempo to or the tempo is not enough because you actually need more value.

 

Not sure what to think of this card. I don't play Rogue, but I would assume her spells are important to her. But I like the the legendary fits with her archetype. Seems like a pretty good card.

Class legendaries: Rogue - Burgle, Priest - Steal, Warlock - Discard

Same ol' same ol'.  They continue to not have a clue how to design these classes.

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Not sure what to think of this card. I don't play Rogue, but I would assume her spells are important to her. But I like the the legendary fits with her archetype. Seems like a pretty good card.

This is a tech card for rogue vs mage and anything to take down the mage is good by me!

This feels like out-of-ideas Blizzard is just giving Rogue the Priest hand-me-downs and left-overs.

Playable card with solid stats

Lilian Voss Theorycrafting!  This deck would be difficult to play but a lot of fun and has cool synergy.

Check it out - any ideas or suggestions are welcome:

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/872317-lilian-voss-rogue-theory

Could be viable in flower rogue?

this is great in miracle. in every miracle game there is that time in the late game in which u burned your swings and your hand and deck are useless spells. would make this hit the deck as well.... but a good card and i like the flavour of it.(lilian voss kinda had her life turned upside down) 

wtf really blizzard? this card sucks!!!!