Not good. But kinda funny the lengths Blizz is going for Anti-Freeze Mage tech.
I am not even sure I'd call it that. I mean it certainly can be to extent but really does freeze mage care that much if you keep putting pressure on a board you can't use? I don't think the card is just ultimately "not good". I do think that it's certainly not great in this meta. Mage just looks to burn you out. Jade simply rolls over control and this deck would be way to slow to pressure Jade down quickly enough, I priest will get far more value out of lyra as she feeds herself essentially (though I think shaman will be better at protecting it's own moorabi just cause of the silly things you can do with taunts), and taunt warriors current closer is just DIE INSECT which makes freezing his board way less effective.
Off the bat it seems to be at the low end of control match ups, looses to Jade late game midrange play and looses to freeze mage and exodia mage. Though it may be able to add enough healing to outlast burn mage. If however the meta switches up enough where some of those decks are less effective then this deck may yet get to shine. Though currently my biggest worry is that the meta will slow (which I like) but because of that Jade will be tier one because of their improved match up against aggro with cards like Spreading Plague. Additionally Exodia mage will get really good as well, which is another deck that poops all over the beginning concept of this one.
Though I think it could be low tier 2 or high tier 3 deck potentially, depends on Thrall.
I adore this guy! One of my first crafts, maybe not the most powerful card generator but he's gonna be so much fun to play with. Even just throwing him and a freeze kit into a elemental deck could be really fun.
Y'know, the card is probably bad, but I'll remain cautiously optimistic about it. We constantly underestimate card generation as an effect, just see Lyra, and there is a world where this could be great. We still haven't seen all the cards yet.
Besides, despite the stats, I love the card. It reminds me of Hallazeal, in that it's a relatively simple but really cool effect that has a multitude of possibilities. frankly even if they aren't all good, Blizzard never goes wrong with the Shaman legendaries.
man I really wish they made Ahune the legendary though.
This is my favorite card to be released so far but only having 4 attack and health is not enough to make this viable. It is too slow of a card and will only be played for fun.
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When you freeze your own minion on your turn, dont you have to wait 2 turns to attack? Im pretty sure Frozen crusher can attack once(get frozen) and then its still frozen on your next turn.....
The stats are just too bad, you have to copy 2 cards at the very least to make it worth the mana, and take up most of your turn doing so while only developing a 4/4 on the board. If you want value like that, why not just run N'Zoth?
It's similar to how Lyra is extremely underwhelming without Radiant Elementals to go along with it, you just draw one or two cards and then proceed to get totally overrun on the next turn from your low tempo play.
This guy seems good on paper but I feel that in practice, he'll fall flat.
A 6 mana 4/4 draw a card would actually be pretty bad. Remember good ol' Azure Drake? Yeah, that guy was amazing! And he didn't need to be combo'd! Moorabi here is a 6 mana 4/4 that requires more cards to activate. To the best of my knowledge, Frost Shock and Glacial Shard are the cheapest means of freezing a minion available to shaman. That means that to get immediate value, you'll have to have 7 mana minimum, which essentially turns this into a two card 7 mana 4/4 draw a card combo. Looking at it that way, this guy is bad.
But, hold your horses. Unlike Azure Drake, you can continue to snowball value out of Moorabi here. The moment you draw a second card by freezing a second minion, this guy doesn't seem too horrible. It's not great yet, but two cards are pretty nice and there's the added bonus of having two things frozen on the board. Not too shabby. The moment he draws that third card though, that's when he finally goes from being bad to pretty solid (pun intended. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....yeah).
In short, and just being blunt here, I don't think he'll see much play. He's too niche and requires too much setup to get the required value out of him. When he works, he'll work great! But more often than not I don't see him working very well at all. Though if enough synergy cards are revealed and a shaman freeze deck becomes viable, this guy always makes the cut! And, if that happens, I'll eat my words because this guy will be a card generating powerhouse that requires an answer.
Should be better in a slow meta because you can not only get your own big minions but also opponents big minions
But I'm thinking about why not I simply use Spirit Echo because in an aggro meta, getting an Enchanted Raven, Murloc Tidecaller and Bloodsail Raider from the other side doesn't really help me
This guy seems good on paper but I feel that in practice, he'll fall flat.
A 6 mana 4/4 draw a card would actually be pretty bad. Remember good ol' Azure Drake? Yeah, that guy was amazing! And he didn't need to be combo'd! Moorabi here is a 6 mana 4/4 that requires more cards to activate. To the best of my knowledge, Frost Shock and Glacial Shard are the cheapest means of freezing a minion available to shaman. That means that to get immediate value, you'll have to have 7 mana minimum, which essentially turns this into a two card 7 mana 4/4 draw a card combo. Looking at it that way, this guy is bad.
But, hold your horses. Unlike Azure Drake, you can continue to snowball value out of Moorabi here. The moment you draw a second card by freezing a second minion, this guy doesn't seem too horrible. It's not great yet, but two cards are pretty nice and there's the added bonus of having two things frozen on the board. Not too shabby. The moment he draws that third card though, that's when he finally goes from being bad to pretty solid (pun intended. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....yeah).
In short, and just being blunt here, I don't think he'll see much play. He's too niche and requires too much setup to get the required value out of him. When he works, he'll work great! But more often than not I don't see him working very well at all. Though if enough synergy cards are revealed and a shaman freeze deck becomes viable, this guy always makes the cut! And, if that happens, I'll eat my words because this guy will be a card generating powerhouse that requires an answer.
This is a Gadgetzan Auctioneer tailor-made for the Shaman class, which has access to versatile freezing so far. You also control exactly what you draw while freezing enemy minions/ the hero. By extension, he's less vulnerable because a lot of things on board will likely be frozen by that point. Besides that, he shares the same set of weaknesses as Gadgetzan Auctioneer, which is one of the most busted cards in the game despite its low stats.
Moorabi still needs a bit more support, but that's almost certainly on the way.
This guy seems good on paper but I feel that in practice, he'll fall flat.
A 6 mana 4/4 draw a card would actually be pretty bad. Remember good ol' Azure Drake? Yeah, that guy was amazing! And he didn't need to be combo'd! Moorabi here is a 6 mana 4/4 that requires more cards to activate. To the best of my knowledge, Frost Shock and Glacial Shard are the cheapest means of freezing a minion available to shaman. That means that to get immediate value, you'll have to have 7 mana minimum, which essentially turns this into a two card 7 mana 4/4 draw a card combo. Looking at it that way, this guy is bad.
But, hold your horses. Unlike Azure Drake, you can continue to snowball value out of Moorabi here. The moment you draw a second card by freezing a second minion, this guy doesn't seem too horrible. It's not great yet, but two cards are pretty nice and there's the added bonus of having two things frozen on the board. Not too shabby. The moment he draws that third card though, that's when he finally goes from being bad to pretty solid (pun intended. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....yeah).
In short, and just being blunt here, I don't think he'll see much play. He's too niche and requires too much setup to get the required value out of him. When he works, he'll work great! But more often than not I don't see him working very well at all. Though if enough synergy cards are revealed and a shaman freeze deck becomes viable, this guy always makes the cut! And, if that happens, I'll eat my words because this guy will be a card generating powerhouse that requires an answer.
This is a Gadgetzan Auctioneer tailor-made for the Shaman class, which has access to versatile freezing so far. You also control exactly what you draw while freezing enemy minions/ the hero. By extension, he's less vulnerable because a lot of things on board will likely be frozen by that point. Besides that, he shares the same set of weaknesses as Gadgetzan Auctioneer, which is one of the most busted cards in the game despite its low stats.
Moorabi still needs a bit more support, but that's almost certainly on the way.
Eh, I don't like the comparison to Gadgetzan Auctioneer. There's a huge difference between card cycle and card generation.
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I adore this guy! One of my first crafts, maybe not the most powerful card generator but he's gonna be so much fun to play with. Even just throwing him and a freeze kit into a elemental deck could be really fun.
Like this could work well with freezing effects + White Eyes. Especially Cryostasis + Thing from Below, etc
So it can be opponents frozen card...or multiple...if only shaman had a mass board freeze lol...
"Why thank you opponent for the (place any powerful non-shaman legendary here)"...
Y'know, the card is probably bad, but I'll remain cautiously optimistic about it. We constantly underestimate card generation as an effect, just see Lyra, and there is a world where this could be great. We still haven't seen all the cards yet.
Besides, despite the stats, I love the card. It reminds me of Hallazeal, in that it's a relatively simple but really cool effect that has a multitude of possibilities. frankly even if they aren't all good, Blizzard never goes wrong with the Shaman legendaries.
man I really wish they made Ahune the legendary though.
Elemental Freeze Shaman is going to be thing, calling it now.
bad card, so they'll print a class-shifted frost nova or blizzard in this expansion or the next to push it into the meta lol
Vvreeeew.
This seems a good summation until we see KFT in play.
Vvreeeew.
This is my favorite card to be released so far but only having 4 attack and health is not enough to make this viable. It is too slow of a card and will only be played for fun.
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When you freeze your own minion on your turn, dont you have to wait 2 turns to attack? Im pretty sure Frozen crusher can attack once(get frozen) and then its still frozen on your next turn.....
"Oh my god, we are in late-game and you play your Tirion Fordring? What can i do? Oh! I know...
> Turn 10+: Moorabi + Glacial Shard + Glacial Shard + Frost Shock + Frost Shock.
So now i have four Tirion Fordring in hand, yours is frozen and next turn i will use Hex on him ;-)"
It's just an example for showing the maximum potential of Moorabi. Besides, Frost Shock is still a bad card.
The stats are just too bad, you have to copy 2 cards at the very least to make it worth the mana, and take up most of your turn doing so while only developing a 4/4 on the board. If you want value like that, why not just run N'Zoth?
It's similar to how Lyra is extremely underwhelming without Radiant Elementals to go along with it, you just draw one or two cards and then proceed to get totally overrun on the next turn from your low tempo play.
This guy seems good on paper but I feel that in practice, he'll fall flat.
A 6 mana 4/4 draw a card would actually be pretty bad. Remember good ol' Azure Drake? Yeah, that guy was amazing! And he didn't need to be combo'd! Moorabi here is a 6 mana 4/4 that requires more cards to activate. To the best of my knowledge, Frost Shock and Glacial Shard are the cheapest means of freezing a minion available to shaman. That means that to get immediate value, you'll have to have 7 mana minimum, which essentially turns this into a two card 7 mana 4/4 draw a card combo. Looking at it that way, this guy is bad.
But, hold your horses. Unlike Azure Drake, you can continue to snowball value out of Moorabi here. The moment you draw a second card by freezing a second minion, this guy doesn't seem too horrible. It's not great yet, but two cards are pretty nice and there's the added bonus of having two things frozen on the board. Not too shabby. The moment he draws that third card though, that's when he finally goes from being bad to pretty solid (pun intended. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....yeah).
In short, and just being blunt here, I don't think he'll see much play. He's too niche and requires too much setup to get the required value out of him. When he works, he'll work great! But more often than not I don't see him working very well at all. Though if enough synergy cards are revealed and a shaman freeze deck becomes viable, this guy always makes the cut! And, if that happens, I'll eat my words because this guy will be a card generating powerhouse that requires an answer.
to slow for his stats... like The Mistcaller... only in word, not in game
This card I'm not sure it has potential or not
Should be better in a slow meta because you can not only get your own big minions but also opponents big minions
But I'm thinking about why not I simply use Spirit Echo because in an aggro meta, getting an Enchanted Raven, Murloc Tidecaller and Bloodsail Raider from the other side doesn't really help me