The problem with this card is 3 mana is so saturated with good shaman cards and even some good neutrals. Sure, you could play this in control. But, would you play this over...
Stonehill defender, Tar Creeper, Mana Tide Totem, Hex, Lightning storm, Hot Spring Guardian?
Even then, is the payoff of destroying a minion for playing freeze really that good? There has to be faaar more synergy than just this card for it to be worth it.
Tho real problem is when you freeze a minion you don't really require to destroy it for one turn unless it is not a taunt minion if you give shaman bunch of cards with freeze mechanic this card still will not see that much play.
So you're saying you'd let his 7 attack minion get through with damage the next turn without dealing with it completely?
So are you saying that you will freeze a minion and at the same turn take 7 damage to the face to kill it ?
2 card combos to remove one minion are garbage. And you are taking face damage, too? Technically you can kill 3 minions for 4 cards with this if you go balls deep on the synergy and even that doesn't sound appealing.
I can't see this card being viable unless thralls new heropower is something like freeze a enemy minion - i don't think one set of new freeze effects will make it playable - look at shatter, it never saw any play
So far this expansion is looking to be complete garbage
It's not been great so far, but there's plenty more time yet. Don't panic..
As far as the Axe? Looks pretty poor, especially seeing as Shaman's currently lack any form of Freeze effect (aside from Frost Shock, Glacial Shard and Frost Elemental)
2 card combos to remove one minion are garbage. And you are taking face damage, too? Technically you can kill 3 minions for 4 cards with this if you go balls deep on the synergy and even that doesn't sound appealing.
1/5
If it's true Flamewalker tempo mage would never be a thing...
It's basically Envenom Weapon for Elemental Shaman....They will have Glacial Shard, Frost Elemental, and probably a couple more Elementals that can freeze targets like Elune. Let's not forget about Frost Shock either, it might be playable for the first time ever.
Envenom Weapon at least is single card and can be used in arena. This is not even arena card, cos you should hope that you will receive combo with freeze :D... it seems really absurd for now.
A lot of people are wondering if this weapon is playable if Blizzard releases more Freezing effect for Shaman. Mage has the best freezing effect of the game, the question is, would you play this card as mage ? They never even bothered to play Shattered, who has the same effect.
And with the fact that Shaman probably has the best removals of the game (Devolve, Hex, Maelstrom Portal, Lightning storm, Volcano) Which one of these will you cut out to put a Freezing card + this weapon ?
Envenom Weapon is a strictly better version of this card and sees absolutly no play in constructed.
Envenom is better, but it doesn't get played because rogue has no heal. All rogue weapons suck because of that. Shaman has plenty of healing. This weapon with ftost elementals and a couple more freeze cards will be great for a control type elemental deck.
So, you will remove Hex or Volcano, to play a 2 cards 9 mana combo that kills 1 minion in exchange of health ? And you think it's good because you'll play healing aswell ? I can see you don't do too much deck building...
Frost Elemental? lol no, it wont make Frost Elemental see play, but maybe with Glacial Shard it's alright, also I assume Shaman will be getting at least one other card with a freeze effect this expansion since they gave them a weapon like this.
I have a hard time seeing this be any good tho, it has the same issues as envenom weapon where you have to face tank a lot of damage to really get the value out of it, the small upside of usually having 1 more durability and not needing to hero power first is more than countered by the fact you need to freeze the minion before hitting it to get the poisonous effect.
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What is Hearthstone to you? A fun and semi-competitive game with wacky effects and crazy RNG outcomes or just a card game you wanna grind as many wins you can get as fast as possible in?
Comparing this to envenom weapon it's absolute trash because it requires a condition that's not easy to do . And envenom weapon never saw any play in constructed which makes this ... 40 dust .
A removal that requires a Setup? In form of a 1/3 weapon for 3 mana which is nearly useless if you can't meet the condition? In a class that has Hex and Jade Lightning ? I don't think so. I think it will not see Play even if Shaman is overloaded with freeze effects.
I believe they will release a totem or hero card that has something to do with freezing, then we will see if its any good. But as of right now its really bad.
As if shamans needed any more removals...
Card is trash alone, but that doesn't change the fact that shamans are overloaded (no pun intended). Seriously, when will they nerf shamans?
The problem with this card is 3 mana is so saturated with good shaman cards and even some good neutrals. Sure, you could play this in control. But, would you play this over...
Stonehill defender, Tar Creeper, Mana Tide Totem, Hex, Lightning storm, Hot Spring Guardian?
Even then, is the payoff of destroying a minion for playing freeze really that good? There has to be faaar more synergy than just this card for it to be worth it.
2 card combos to remove one minion are garbage. And you are taking face damage, too? Technically you can kill 3 minions for 4 cards with this if you go balls deep on the synergy and even that doesn't sound appealing.
1/5
I can't see this card being viable unless thralls new heropower is something like freeze a enemy minion - i don't think one set of new freeze effects will make it playable - look at shatter, it never saw any play
I'm starting to think we will get a Ahune card, when the text becomes orange I will be vindicated, but i'm certain now.
It's basically Envenom Weapon for Elemental Shaman....They will have Glacial Shard, Frost Elemental, and probably a couple more Elementals that can freeze targets like Elune. Let's not forget about Frost Shock either, it might be playable for the first time ever.
Envenom Weapon at least is single card and can be used in arena. This is not even arena card, cos you should hope that you will receive combo with freeze :D... it seems really absurd for now.
I think that dk shaman will have a hero power like : freeze a minion and deal 1dmg to it??
Who knows, maybe they'll get some windfury-like effect that hits another minion for free or something.
[Edit: Regarding the wording of 'any minion']
Frost Elemental? lol no, it wont make Frost Elemental see play, but maybe with Glacial Shard it's alright, also I assume Shaman will be getting at least one other card with a freeze effect this expansion since they gave them a weapon like this.
I have a hard time seeing this be any good tho, it has the same issues as envenom weapon where you have to face tank a lot of damage to really get the value out of it, the small upside of usually having 1 more durability and not needing to hero power first is more than countered by the fact you need to freeze the minion before hitting it to get the poisonous effect.
What is Hearthstone to you?
A fun and semi-competitive game with wacky effects and crazy RNG outcomes or just a card game you wanna grind as many wins you can get as fast as possible in?
Comparing this to envenom weapon it's absolute trash because it requires a condition that's not easy to do . And envenom weapon never saw any play in constructed which makes this ... 40 dust .
A removal that requires a Setup? In form of a 1/3 weapon for 3 mana which is nearly useless if you can't meet the condition? In a class that has Hex and Jade Lightning ? I don't think so. I think it will not see Play even if Shaman is overloaded with freeze effects.
I believe they will release a totem or hero card that has something to do with freezing, then we will see if its any good. But as of right now its really bad.
Printing WoW's Frost Totem with the exact same effect would be a pain in the arse.
For those who don't play WoW, that Frost Totem did AOE Freeze damage. Sheer horror as your opponent is unable to deal with it.
3 mana 0/2 freeze random enemy character at the end of your turn would be ok.
Maybe it can be playable if Shaman deathknight will receive "freeze any enemy your hero attack" and some sort of windfury/bladefury