On the main topic: yes "Stonetusk Boar" is an absolute designlimiter! they can't produce real good buffs or stat swaps while there is a 1/1 charge withoout any condition. So im absolutely fine with him moving to HoF in an upcomming rotation.
On the topic of the additional cards like Gadgeztac Auctioneer, Alexstrasza, Malygos, Preparation, Innervate and Ice Block: According to some interviews, these are all cards which will rotate at some time, due to the philosphy that archtypes shouldn't stay forever in the meta or designlimiting. So the question if they will rotate is wrong, the right question is when they will rotate.
As a miracle rogue and freeze mage player i see this day comming with a sad and a happy eye. On one hand we'll loose two "day one decks" but on the other hand it opens the space for some new crazy archetypes.
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Love all the shit talking going on in here. Miracle is one of the most difficult decks to play correctly, hence it's popularity among pro players. It might not be insanely difficult to draw with an auctioneer, but knowing when to go all in and making the best out of bad draws is what makes it difficult and that happens more frequently than you would imagine. That is what divides a good player from a bad one.
Also, nothing is being rotated to wild until the first expansion of next year and nothing has been confirmed either. Sorry, but prep, ice block, innervate, auctioneer and even stonetusk boar are here for at least another 6 or so months. It is blisteringly obvious that miracles existence isn't going to push auctioneer out of standard. If it was, they would have rotated it last set. As is, people like playing miracle, blizz routinely releases a card or so every set that supports the archetype and rogue players are happy. Get over it. We all hate playing against certain things, you can't just go around deleting every card that sees play.
Miracle is not that difficult to play at all, slightly easier than freeze mage which isn't that difficult either. I mean sure, they are compared to most other controll, midrange and aggro but that is more because of the design of the other types of decks since they are pretty straight forward.
As for cards rotating there is a difference between how the standard card rotation is handled (2 year life span) and the Hall of Fame rotation. The HoF (only affect standard classic cards) can be an immediate decision for this or the next set if they feel that some card or cards would hinder them from going forward with that expansion.
I bet they still struggle with the decision for innervate and prep though since they pretty much are a piece of the pillar that makes up what they envisioned the 2 classes to be.
Ben have stated many times how ramp is the druid thing and prep is the min combo activator.
Well, I've won a great many amount of games by simply using Ice Lance on it's own to Freeze Minions or the Opponent Hero... It's a shame it's so useless on it's own, I wonder how much better it would be if it was useful on it's own :O. We will see though.
Well if you wanna get literal about it, Stonetusk does deal at least 1 damage the turn it's played, so it's not "completely and utterly useless on its own" either since it deals damage. :P
My point was, even a card that requires other support cards to work properly isn't safe from HoF. Yes, Lance can be boosted by spell damage, but Stonetusk can be boosted by many things as well, and potentially many more things in the future.
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Miracle Rogue is a stupid RNG deck. How can one call this deck hard to play or brain deck? What's your strategy with this deck?
Are you just trolling or you seriously believe that? Stupid RNG deck? I wonder if you ever seen the Miracle Rogue lists that were used for the first 2 years of this game, which included literally ZERO RNG cards. Miracle Rogue is one of the hardest decks to play in the deck, that demands proper technical play to be successful with. The strategy, depends heavily on the deck you are playing against. The IDEAL strategy is playing Gadgetzan and drawing a bunch of cards to enable a lot of burst damage in a few turns. The real way the deck plays is you have to struggle to somehow survive the vomit of the aggro decks and then take control of the game from there. This is how it usually works in most matches you play.
I am talking about current decks dude. What's the point of praising deck lists doesn't exist now?
I agree that auctioneer is important for rogue, but I think they should rotate it to wild and create a "look alike" just for rogue. So they can fix the fact that it's really bad for further card design (like stone tusk boar, alex, etc).
Where I don' t agree with you is on the brain aspect ... there are a lot of decks that sometimes need more brain like freeze mage, some control priest or even burn mage. But as a miracle player myself I would be sad to remove that iconic deck from standard. They should move auctioneer to a rogue class card :)
I'd be happy with a class card that worked similarly, but perhaps in a less efficient way.
I am talking about current decks dude. What's the point of praising deck lists doesn't exist now?
Well, when you talking about a deck that has been in the game since the Beta, you probably should take a look at it's history. Miracle Rogue currentl is not that good, it lost a lot of it's power. This is mainly because the cards were nerfed over time and also rotated into Wild. That means the Standard version of Miracle Rogue even needs to use a few RNG cards to fill in spaces that doesn't happen in Wild. The deck still exists in Wild, completely free of RNG. It exists in both Standard and Wild, just with different lists because of what cards are available to use.
That is definitely not healthy for the game, and breaks the core idea of standard rotation, so I hope the devs do something about it next year, in favor of the fun and new strategies that hopefully also require skill to be played.
On the main topic: yes "Stonetusk Boar" is an absolute designlimiter! they can't produce real good buffs or stat swaps while there is a 1/1 charge withoout any condition. So im absolutely fine with him moving to HoF in an upcomming rotation.
On the topic of the additional cards like Gadgeztac Auctioneer, Alexstrasza, Malygos, Preparation, Innervate and Ice Block: According to some interviews, these are all cards which will rotate at some time, due to the philosphy that archtypes shouldn't stay forever in the meta or designlimiting. So the question if they will rotate is wrong, the right question is when they will rotate.
As a miracle rogue and freeze mage player i see this day comming with a sad and a happy eye. On one hand we'll loose two "day one decks" but on the other hand it opens the space for some new crazy archetypes.
Want to discuss my predictions or suggestions with me personaly?
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Miracle Rogue is a stupid RNG deck. How can one call this deck hard to play or brain deck? What's your strategy with this deck?
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Man is the Sun.
Woman is the Moon.
The Stone is the Sky.
The Art is the Way.
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People talking and discussing like Deathstalker Rexxar will be a thing, it will not. Card is bad and too slow for hunter.
unlikely, more likely they will change stonetusk boar.
It's a basic card, not a classic card.
It has to be snakes.