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I think this nerf is bad and unecessary, but the most funny thing is how people were talking poorly of Caverns Below back in Un'Goro's spoilers.

It will keep praying on slower decks, while getting even more punished by aggro decks. We could say they simply killed the single scenario where Quest Rogue players needed to use their brain, which was against aggro.

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Why just this one 3 months later?  Why no adjustments to the quests that suck to make them playable?  Because they're lazy and what they're doing to QR is only because it affects something they've got planned for next expansion that would make QR even worse.  Won't take you all long to figure out what it is once they start revealing cards in a few weeks.

 

 Exactly this. 

oh for F SAKE

I got a duplicate caverns below a few months back and was frustrated thinking I crafted this got damn thing at start of ungoro. Now I decided to dust the copy after holding onto it for ages incase it got nerfed but gave up thinking Ben Brode doesn't know what the hell he is doing and even if they do it won't be the quest but some other card to nerf QR.

But NO. Days after I DE my copy they announce this. I am so fed up with this game I constantly get shafted by ppack openings etc

Quote from Citizen77 >>

oh for F SAKE

I got a duplicate caverns below a few months back and was frustrated thinking I crafted this got damn thing at start of ungoro. Now I decided to dust the copy after holding onto it for ages incase it got nerfed but gave up thinking Ben Brode doesn't know what the hell he is doing and even if they do it won't be the quest but some other card to nerf QR.

 

But NO. Days after I DE my copy they announce this. I am so fed up with this game I constantly get shafted by ppack openings etc

which is what I was doing, but since I hardly opened any legendaries in past 2 expansions I couldn't craft any good decks and finally decided to de my stuff. Typical -.-

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For sure there are new cards coming that could have broke the quest, if not nerfed. No reason to at least wait for next meta before nerfing, like they always did. Similar toxic cards like Jade Idol has also been left untouched.

 There is no rational argument against Jade Idol. 

 There is the same argument that has been made now for Caverns Below: it beats control 100% of the time and forces the meta to react.

 The difference between Jade Idol and The Caverns Below is the speed with which they beat the control deck. It takes Jade Druid much more (when compared to Quest Rogue) to beat the control deck. With the control decks of today, which are more proactive, you have a much better chance against Jade Druid then against Quest Rogue.

I am also noticing a lot of hypocrites in this thread, talking about how Jade Druid is the filthy control killer deck, while defending the Rogue Quest, which is much more frustrating since you could start losing as early as turn 5, whereas the Druid takes much longer to kill you. On top of that this deck beats Jade Druid as well, quite effectively. If you complained about Jade Druid ever you have no right to defend Quest Rogue now, so please stop. Quest Rogue is much more limiting than Jade Druid for control decks and I think that Jade Druid was introduced to force control decks to have proactive win condition vs the traditional fatigue plan of Control Warrior.

 Druid takes much longer but it's still completely oe sided against control decks.

I would add more, but it seems that @SchruteBucks and @DeadlyShadow420 got me covered.

I thought Quest Rogue was a Tier 2 deck. It's not as though it's dominating either. It sounds to me like it's appeasement to a p-o'd audience rather than a fix. Just IMO. 

I'm finishing top 100 legend this month with quest rogue.. the deck has been pretty good the past week due to a sharp uptick in slower decks.

Its good either way that they nerf this. Because this and Jade Idol are the biggest offenses to design space in HS history. One destroys control decks, the other endorses aggro. 

While they both do different things to the meta, they both have the same end results: Speedstone

Quote from Ogobum >>

Can you imagine when someone posts that thread here 'What can I play now that QR is dead?'   Blizz will lose a lot of players if there is suddenly no deck they can run and then they get savaged when asking for help

http://kotaku.com/blizzard-finally-nerfed-hearthstones-quest-rogue-deck-1796498452

So why bother making the changes? Comparing February’s nerfs to today’s, the one thing that they both have in common is that they’re both set for release about a month before the launch of a new expansion. With Blizzard already dropping hints about an upcoming set of cards, the move is probably more of an attempt to prep for the next set than it is to shake things up in today’s competitive scene.

People wondering about the timing of the nerf (just before an expansion) will probably find that bit quoted above very interesting as it fits within the theory many people had that one of the reasons they are nerfing Crystal Rogue is because of what they want to do in the next expansion.

Ben Brode and Mike Donais did an hour long live stream Q&A on the Un'Goro and Balance Changes and a review summary and vod link are available in the Hearthpwn news section: 

http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/2948-ungoro-q-a-with-ben-brode-and-mike-donais

How much time we have to wait for this cursed card be finally nerfed?

There is some speculation that it will be after one of the previously announced tournaments for which the deadline for submitting decks has already past. Which tournament that was I can't remember, but it is the first or second week of July if I remember correctly, so I imagine they would wait till afterwards if they don't want to interfere it because people made their deck lineups considering the current meta. 

This nerf is so pointless. Rogue quest deck isn't that good. It's about Tier3 or something.

It has some unstoppable draws yes, but most of the time it just beats itself - takes too long to complete the quest or just miss completely.

Oh well, at least I'm getting my 1600 dust back.

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takes too long to complete the quest or just miss completely.

@Atherion94, RegisKillbin just did a decksperiment with Control Quest Rogue. The VOD isn't up yet but it will show up here in a few hours I imagine: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbt1SGMrWj5Q7TMXAfmTERQ/videos

(I'll edit in a direct link once it pops up)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFQxrBZs0HA

Quote from Atherion94 >>

http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/857161-control-quest Guys can someone try out this deck ? I don't have all the cards but i think that if you mix up Control Rogue with Quest Rogue and activate the Quest with the help of Shadowcaster it might work . Can someone acually who has the cards help me test it ?

P.S. I will make some changes but i think it might work otherwise ill do something similar with the Quest rogue now and just add Shadow caster so i can play 1 more time the minion i need

 

"For the rest of the game, YOUR minions are 5/5.

Read the card.

nice card sad