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What kills me is how many people playing this deck have no clue how to play it. I'd say at least half of my wins against Quest Rogue come from inexplicable misplays by my opponent. I played against a guy this morning who had a fully loaded board. It was turn 9, and I'd had awful draw. I had lethal twice and he kept dropping taunts to prevent me from closing. Finally, on turn 10, he sacrifices his entire board to clear my minions, then finishes and plays the quest. I only had 13 hp. I had no taunts. Why not play the quest, get a board with seven 5/5's, and just kill me? Instead he cleared board and then I Kill Command'd him. It might have been a bot. The guy's turns were really clunky and weird, with inexplicable trades made. Early on, he dropped Fire Fly and left it.
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First, the deck needs to be adjusted because there is literally no way to interact with it. Because there's no way to interact with opponent's play on their own turn other than the very limited Secret interactions, you can't respond to something getting played and bounced to hand. Then the effect itself is completely impossible to interact with as it's not a removable effect. Blizzard's primary concern is "fun", not necessarily "power", and there's not a lot of fun for decks that are built around interaction when a deck like this drops.
Balancing busted cards version 1.0.
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
Balancing busted cards version 1.0.
You came back to the game after a long period no problem dust everything create a quest rogue deck profit...
I just done it in America server just with the dusts I got from free packs game gave me and I became rank 5 in only 4 days.
This card's reward should read Set Attack and Health of all minions in your hand and deck to 5. That way, they can be silenced and tranformed. Also bouncing back should remove the buff.
"Sit and come relax, riddle off the mac. It's the patch."
Since Blizzard still haven't changed Jade Idol I guess they won't nerf Quest Rogue. They just let shit be. Really hard to understand why they will make their customers so frustrated. Overall the Quests was a good idea that went wrong. It should have been smaller things.
I don't understand how people say that QR is fine and not that strong. The decks I am laddering with this month cannot beat Quest Rogue. Sure I encountered some bad QR's at lower ranks than 10, but after that, the players know what they are doing and they simply railroad me each time.
I also don't understand how QR is uninteractive. Glacial Shard, Tar Creeper, Backstab, Vanish, and Wicked Knife are quite interactive, thank you. Charging 1/1s, 2/1s, and 5/5s can be very interactive as it turns out.
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Who's the Beatdown?
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
In Hearthstone, the Aggro match up with Crystal Rogue is fairly easy to understand. Because Crystal Rogue is aiming for delayed value from the quest reward, they often have the Control role while Aggro has the Beatdown role.
In Control vs Control match ups, it comes down to who has the most value. The player with the most value often has the role of Control while the other player must assume the role of Beatdown.
The Control match up with Crystal Rogue can be more difficult for Control players because they must determine whether their deck has more value than the Crystal Rogue player's deck and adjust their game plan accordingly. The value from the Crystal Core is strong, and so Crystal Rogue may have the role of Control in this match up, meaning that the Control deck player needs to assume the Beatdown role in order to win.
All in all, while this article is about another game, I think most of it applies fairly well to the Crystal Rogue match ups and may explain some of the difficulties experienced playing against it as a Control player. A Control deck player who plays to their outs and assumes the correct role in the match up still has a chance of winning, but those who misassign themselves, whether by misevaluation or inflexibility, put themselves at a disadvantage.
*edit* Just saw your post and was wondering if you had already seen this article or one like it.
@WraithM; yep, that was actually the article I was referring to! It's been re-worded elsewhere a bunch, but you can pretty much apply that to almost any card game with combat mechanics so I usually point people to the original.
Articles I suggest every player reads to improve at the game;
MTG/Hearthstone biases to avoid
Reframing negative Hearthstone experiences to improve at the game
Who's the Beatdown?
Don't forget that this will be in Standard for a really long time, and will forever haunt Wild in its current state. Who knows how the next expansions will affect the synergies. It could get faster.
Articles I suggest every player reads to improve at the game;
MTG/Hearthstone biases to avoid
Reframing negative Hearthstone experiences to improve at the game
Who's the Beatdown?
"Sit and come relax, riddle off the mac. It's the patch."