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Though it is more apparent with Quest Rogue, I've seen other decks being played poorly at rank 15, too, so I don't think it is unique to Quest Rogue at that rank.

You can generally get to rank 15 while making a few mistakes per game, as long as they're not consistently big mistakes.

And I don't think Quest Rogue needs any huge nerfs. I would suggest starting by changing the card text:

"Whenever you summon a minion this game, make it a 5/5."  And have it be a card effect, so that polymorph, hex, silence, devolve, etc, impact it.  I think the problem is not the Quest itself, it's that once the Quest is done, there are very, very few counters.

The most toxic thing about this deck is not the fact that it can not be countered. It's the fact that it makes a lot of decks much less viable on ladder especially if quest rogue is tier 1. I would love to try quest druid for example but it is too frustrating play it in quest rogue meta.

Blizzard is not going to nerf it and will continue to justify quest rogue existence stating "well, you can play aggro so quest rogue is not a problem". No problem for aggro players i guess but huge pain in the ass for control players. Firstly they showed control players middle finger by introducing jade mechanic. Secondly - by quest rogue and partially by quest warrior.

Increasing minions required to complete by 1 should be enough.

Having Rogue completing their quest in turn 3 is idiotic.

Quest warrior counters control decks? Shamans hero power counters warrior quest - control shaman viable. Also if youve got enough value in deck (elise + shadow visions) you should be able to outrun quest warrior just make sure you draw enough cards. Control paladin - any control paladin beats taunt warrior.

Managed to get to rank 15? :P Any1 can climb up until this rank rly :D

Quote from PanTomaszHS >>

Blizzard is not going to nerf it and will continue to justify quest rogue existence stating "well, you can play aggro so quest rogue is not a problem". No problem for aggro players i guess but huge pain in the ass for control players. Firstly they showed control players middle finger by introducing jade mechanic. Secondly - by quest rogue and partially by quest warrior.

Quote from UnderaShiva >>

Blizzard accepted the fact people dont like burst damage decks, they nerfed a couple of card and then created a card like this one. Which proves that they are total retards in terms of card creation and deck testing.

Also, it's a non-interactive deck. What a sh**ty card design.

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Quote from UnderaShiva >>

Blizzard accepted the fact people dont like burst damage decks, they nerfed a couple of card and then created a card like this one. Which proves that they are total retards in terms of card creation and deck testing.

Also, it's a non-interactive deck. What a sh**ty card design.

Really? So choosing to hold onto your Glacial Shards because you're facing an aggro deck is non-interactive? Backstabs and eviscerates to gain more board control is non-interactive? Vanishes to clear the board when your opponent has total control is non-interactive?

 I'm going to be frank here: Quest Rogue is perfectly interactive and you're just salty because it can be a frustrating deck to play against. This is coming from someone who has played through 3 iterations of the Quest Rogue deck. Yes, the first version (Dog's) was non-interactive. It was also total ass after the first day or two, once people started creating decks to counter it. The second version had minor interactiveness. The versions that I'm seeing out there now, as well as the one I most recently played, are plenty interactive.

Also, another thing that people want to completely ignore: This deck is total RNG. Bad draw = lose. Opponent has a good draw = probably lose. Both players have bad draws = lose. Yes, when you get a really good mulligan and good draws, you can win really quickly and easily. Any other time, though, and you're fighting for a turn 7-8 win against decks that are more than prepared to handle you, which usually means that you lose.

Quest Rogue is one of the weaker decks in this meta and people are only complaining about it because it [i]can occasionally[/i] win really quickly. Quest Rogue was my main deck last season and I can state with no hesitation that the deck is nowhere near as bad/OP as you and everyone else give it credit for. In the current meta, it loses more than it wins. But, by all means, keep complaining about how broken and non-interactive it is... I mean, that's what the rest of us do when we lose against decks, right?

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The most toxic thing about this deck is not the fact that it can not be countered. It's the fact that it makes a lot of decks much less viable on ladder especially if quest rogue is tier 1. I would love to try quest druid for example but it is too frustrating play it in quest rogue meta.

Blizzard is not going to nerf it and will continue to justify quest rogue existence stating "well, you can play aggro so quest rogue is not a problem". No problem for aggro players i guess but huge pain in the ass for control players.

I barely see it on ladder anymore. To be honest I have barely seen it since the first few weeks of Un'Goro. I see much more Priest (Silence and Lyra Miracles), Paladin, and Warrior (Pirate and Quest). The Quest Rogue deck is capable of some incredibly fast starts if they draw the nuts, but usually they don't and their deck usually just sits around doing nothing while you bash their face. It is inconsistent and also difficult to play on top of it. I see many Quest Rogue players make multiple mistakes per game. This deck is nowhere even close to the level of dominance (both in terms of overall percentage of the meta and win percentage) decks like Patron Warrior, Secret Paladin, or Mid-Range/Aggro Shaman have had over the past year or two.

In the end, Blizzard has the data on how good the Quest Rogue deck is. I suspect it isn't nearly as pervasive or as good as the people here wanting it nerfed claim, otherwise we'd have heard Blizzard talk about it like they did Pirate Warrior.

When a rogue plays the quest I just concede, same with pirate warrior, I just can't be bothered :)

Thanks god im seeing less and less quest rogue lately, but still, when i face them i hate it. People talk about how the deck can brick. How? When? When they play against me they always have quest completed by turn 5 with preparation. Such an idiotic deck.
"Do you play aggro? No? So i won"
"Wow, you are so skilled dude" 
Pirate warrior is much much easier to counter (even if remains a cancerous deck), Jade Druid you have more than one chance with (they are slow and its easy draw badly with). But Quest rogue? Hordes of 5 - 5 charge hitting your face? No way. Fuck that shit.

Blizzard has a shitty habit now. A retarded design for each expansion muat be their aim. Jade Golems are stupid as fuck especially Jade Idol. I feel really desperate when playing against Quest Rogue. Not much to do after they complete the easy quest. All the people talking about countering it must be playing it. Of course, hit face by 1 mana 5/5 charges can be countered; tell me please HOW!

Quote from SlickRick >>

Blizzard has a shitty habit now. A retarded design for each expansion muat be their aim. Jade Golems are stupid as fuck especially Jade Idol. I feel really desperate when playing against Quest Rogue. Not much to do after they complete the easy quest. All the people talking about countering it must be playing it. Of course, hit face by 1 mana 5/5 charges can be countered; tell me please HOW!

Quote from PanTomaszHS >>

Blizzard is not going to nerf it and will continue to justify quest rogue existence stating "well, you can play aggro so quest rogue is not a problem".

Blizzard also tends to judge a deck's "power" by referring to its win rate.  Using Data Reaper Report #46 as a reference (http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-46/), Quest Rogue has a 50.39% winning percent @ Legend Rank and 48.62% overall.

Of course, this includes people that misplay (probably at lower ranks obviously) and does not factor in the win big/lose big nature of this deck.

Never mind the absolute non-interactive nature of this deck.  I'm not necessarily taking sides; although if I had to choose, I would probably want the quest to be nerfed.  Anyway, just my 2 cents.

Quote from banstylejbo >>

In the end, Blizzard has the data on how good the Quest Rogue deck is. I suspect it isn't nearly as pervasive or as good as the people here wanting it nerfed claim, otherwise we'd have heard Blizzard talk about it like they did Pirate Warrior.

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The most toxic thing about this deck is not the fact that it can not be countered. It's the fact that it makes a lot of decks much less viable on ladder especially if quest rogue is tier 1. I would love to try quest druid for example but it is too frustrating play it in quest rogue meta.

Blizzard is not going to nerf it and will continue to justify quest rogue existence stating "well, you can play aggro so quest rogue is not a problem". No problem for aggro players i guess but huge pain in the ass for control players. Firstly they showed control players middle finger by introducing jade mechanic. Secondly - by quest rogue and partially by quest warrior.

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Quote from PanTomaszHS >>

Blizzard is not going to nerf it and will continue to justify quest rogue existence stating "well, you can play aggro so quest rogue is not a problem". No problem for aggro players i guess but huge pain in the ass for control players.

And you're right...Blizzard is not going to nerf it...because it doesn't need to be nerfed. Try playing it and you'll see how easy it is to lose when you can't come up with 3 bounce cards fast enough.

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Quote from banstylejbo >>

In the end, Blizzard has the data on how good the Quest Rogue deck is. I suspect it isn't nearly as pervasive or as good as the people here wanting it nerfed claim, otherwise we'd have heard Blizzard talk about it like they did Pirate Warrior.

 While we don't have as a complete picture as Blizzard, data sources like DataReaper support your conclusion.

http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-46

Quest Rogue's win rate considering all ranks in their data is only 48.62%, making it a tier 3 deck at all ranks except legend where it wins 50.39% of its games. That seems fairly balanced, though it is important to note for a lot of people posting here in this thread that the question of whether Quest Rogue is balanced is a different question than whether or not it is fun to play against, a point which some posts don't seem to recognize or want to acknowledge when it comes to discussing card balance.