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just wait for druid quest. I think its gonna have synergy with this

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As it stands now, this card is somewhere between "dust it" and "bad". A 10 mana card that doesn't affect the board is unplayable, period. If druid doesn't get any kind of help making this card better, it's never seeing play.

 By your definition, N'zoth is unplayable. You don't need to kill stuff to affect the board.

Untargetable 12/12 does affect the board significantly.

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As it stands now, this card is somewhere between "dust it" and "bad". A 10 mana card that doesn't affect the board is unplayable, period. If druid doesn't get any kind of help making this card better, it's never seeing play.

 By your definition, N'zoth is unplayable. You don't need to kill stuff to affect the board.

Untargetable 12/12 beast does affect the board significantly.

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This is just worse that Soggoth the Slitherer for the most part... I don't get it. Boring.

12/12 worse than 5/9 for the most part, good to know

Soggoth on the board isn't threatening anything, the opponent has ton of time to develop a board and deal with soggoth especially with Mr. Noboardclear aka Druid.

12/12 threatens lethal almost immediatly.

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Also the artwork is awful. All Druid cards have been questionable or disappointing so far. Wouldn't it make sense for it have somethng to do with adapt???

Don't you think Tyrantus is a great adapt target ? Divine shield, windfury, taunt, hello ?

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This is just worse that Soggoth the Slitherer for the most part... I don't get it. Boring.

12/12 worse than 5/9 for the most part, good to know

Soggoth on the board isn't threatening anything, the opponent has ton of time to develop a board and deal with soggoth especially with Mr. Noboardclear aka Druid.

12/12 threatens lethal almost immediatly

The thing is, while you play a 10 mana 12/12, your opponent just kills you. If you're not already heavily ahead on board, you just can't play this because your oppoent will ignore it. It's a win more card.

I would rate soggoth higher than this as well, simply because he has taunt. He does something, this card doesn't.

i already have 1 mana 12/12

meh

Boring as fuck.

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Try that for once, go to casual and pass a turn (Or play a Faceless Behemoth in that turn). Your opponent will  either say 'Greetings' or 'Happy new Year', and proceed to stomp you in your face until you die and you are dead and your opponent won and you did not.

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This is just worse that Soggoth the Slitherer for the most part... I don't get it. Boring.

12/12 worse than 5/9 for the most part, good to know

Soggoth on the board isn't threatening anything, the opponent has ton of time to develop a board and deal with soggoth especially with Mr. Noboardclear aka Druid.

12/12 threatens lethal almost immediatly

The thing is, while you play a 10 mana 12/12, your opponent just kills you. If you're not already heavily ahead on board, you just can't play this because your oppoent will ignore it. It's a win more card.

I would rate soggoth higher than this as well, simply because he has taunt. He does something, this card doesn't.

Sorry, I play wild. Please ignore me, Tree of Life concedes are the best.

Also please, try to play control decks once in a while. "your opponent ignores it and kill you" is a blatant proof that you know nothing but aggro.

Rating soggoth higher than tyrantus, is like rating Silverback Patriarch higher than Edwin VanCleef. "it has taunt, it does something" lul.

Dies to BGH...

On a more serious note, usually 10 mana minions must do something. This does nothing, but it has intimidating stats and can't be killed with removal (unless silenced, but silence is presently not common). Sometimes that is enough, since other high mana minions do also nothing for tempo the turn they are played (they do generate value then). It is not a play that will save anyone under pressure and it is much too slow for beast hunter (although I'd love to copy it with Menagerie Warden ). But on an empty board, this can be a game winning play. However, how often can you Play something like that on an empty board? I'd say not nearly often enough. So I voted bad.

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This is just worse that Soggoth the Slitherer for the most part... I don't get it. Boring.

12/12 worse than 5/9 for the most part, good to know

Soggoth on the board isn't threatening anything, the opponent has ton of time to develop a board and deal with soggoth especially with Mr. Noboardclear aka Druid.

12/12 threatens lethal almost immediatly

The thing is, while you play a 10 mana 12/12, your opponent just kills you. If you're not already heavily ahead on board, you just can't play this because your oppoent will ignore it. It's a win more card.

I would rate soggoth higher than this as well, simply because he has taunt. He does something, this card doesn't.

 Same as N'zoth, Ysera, etc. then: you lose your entire turn by playing it, and the opponent can kill you...

...except you play those cards when the board is kinda empty (and maybe after your opponent used removals), otherwise you play something else.

I'll play it in my Goya/Y'Shaarj deck for sure. Art is kinda lame though.

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Try that for once, go to casual and pass a turn (Or play a Faceless Behemoth in that turn). Your opponent will  either say 'Greetings' or 'Happy new Year', and proceed to stomp you in your face until you die and you are dead and your opponent won and you did not.

That does not makes any sense. You should run cards like that in a control deck, and by turn 10 your opponent should not have a better board than yours - if that's the case, you play your AoE and removals and not the huge 10-mana minion.

Guys, not every high mana cost card should have a huge tempo-swing mechanic, you know? Most of them are meant to be run in a control deck that slowly gained advantage and want to size the victory with a last, huge threat. It is win-more? Could be, but at the same time not every control deck could end the game with spell burst or charge combo, you know?

Cards like that gives you the chance to trade and push another winning condition on the now empty board.

The Ram Wrangler dream.

I think this confirms druid quest reward being adapt your minions at the end of your turn

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This is just worse that Soggoth the Slitherer for the most part... I don't get it. Boring.

12/12 worse than 5/9 for the most part, good to know

Soggoth on the board isn't threatening anything, the opponent has ton of time to develop a board and deal with soggoth especially with Mr. Noboardclear aka Druid.

12/12 threatens lethal almost immediatly

The thing is, while you play a 10 mana 12/12, your opponent just kills you. If you're not already heavily ahead on board, you just can't play this because your oppoent will ignore it. It's a win more card.

I would rate soggoth higher than this as well, simply because he has taunt. He does something, this card doesn't.

 Same as N'zoth, Ysera, etc. then: you lose your entire turn by playing it, and the opponent can kill you...

...except you play those cards when the board is kinda empty (and maybe after your opponent used removals), otherwise you play something else.

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I think this confirms druid quest reward being adapt your minions at the end of your turn

 Nope, it doesn't. Could be anything.

Malfurion: Tyrande, is that you?

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Seems strong. Don't know why everyone is shitting on it. It's not extremely original, but Sherazin's originality didn't help people think it was worth playing either. So what's the big freaking deal? Oh it's boring effect. Meh. Ragnaros is leaving, so there is space for cards like this. The beast tag may be valuable too.

This is... meh. I'm usually pretty optimistic about new cards and as a Druid main I was really excited to see what they'd come up with - but all four of our cards so far are distinctly average. Maybe they feel that due to the community reaction to Jade that Druid doesn't really need any love - won't go into why that's stupid due to Jade's winrate but heyho.

Very disappointed. Lazy card design, unimpactful, doesn't feel Druid-esque. Just all around...meh.