This card is a worse firebat that pollutes your deck. Not even good in quest hunter, because u want to complete the quest as fast as possible around turn 5-6
People need to understand that the Hunter quest is geared for mid-range, not aggro. The Pirate Warrior deck is a strictly stronger aggro than anything the Hunter can do in Un'Goro, because Hunter doesn't have the weapon synergy that Warrior does, nor does it have a 0-mana 3/3 taunt and some other tools like Kro'kan. Also remember to play the quest, you skip turn one, which you can't do in an aggro deck. If Hunter aggro works, then Pirate Warrior works even better. But let's not forget all the anti-aggro cards in Un'Goro like Tar Creeper and the new Ooze, which should really stop any aggro from becoming a thing.
Hunter quest would be a mid-range deck with 7 or 8 of these one-drops. The fact that we have two one-drops that spawn additional one drops (the 1/2 elemental being the other) only helps the mid-range deck as it can put in more tools for board presence/card draw/tempo, and not thin the deck with one-drops. Will it work? Tough to say, but thinking you will be completing the quest on turn 5 is not feasible at all.
The guys who voted for meta-defining and very good probably do not understand it's shuffled into the deck, not added to your hand. This card is tier 3 at best.
Not happy with this push for 1 drops in hunter. The class arguably has the worst draw in the game, so I guess that sort of balances it, but it still seems this could easily be the new problem in HS.
Powerful effect, punishable by priest. Regardless, it's a bit too much stats, I think another 1 mana 3/2 token would make more sense or make the token 2 mana 4/2.
The guys who voted for meta-defining and very good probably do not understand it's shuffled into the deck, not added to your hand. This card is tier 3 at best.
You need to understand that Tol'vir Warden isn't worried about that.
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Not a fan of this one. Without the quest this is still stupidly powerful, as they can top deck it the next turn and that's REALLY scary if they are going first. Turn 2: 2/1, 4/3, and whatever other one drop they may have? You best pray for Doomsayer...
Thats an evaluation WITHOUT the quest. WITH the quest this is an auto include, no question, and I am now actually concerned about the hunter quest because hunter has more than enough useable 1 drops now. If they give hunter a good early card draw mechanic, than its going to be a horrifying meta.
Edit: I just realized that this is a deathrattle, and not a battlecry, so you won't be swarmed in turn 2. But this card still doesn't sit right with me
Not a fan of this one. Without the quest this is still stupidly powerful, as they can top deck it the next turn and that's REALLY scary if they are going first. Turn 2: 2/1, 4/3, and whatever other one drop they may have? You best pray for Doomsayer...
Thats an evaluation WITHOUT the quest. WITH the quest this is an auto include, no question, and I am now actually concerned about the hunter quest because hunter has more than enough useable 1 drops now. If they give hunter a good early card draw mechanic, than its going to be a horrifying meta.
Edit: I just realized that this is a deathrattle, and not a battlecry, so you won't be swarmed in turn 2. But this card still doesn't sit right with me
The chance the draw this immediately is like 4-5% chance. They'll likely pull it after turn 6 with the new hunter card, or never. Playing a 4/3 after turn 6 for one mana is not scary or OP. We've also had other 2 mana 4/3's (Succubus [/card]and [card]Wrathgaurd) that never saw play.
This card isn't good for aggro. It's only good if you are going for the quest, where it gives you two 1-drops for one deck slot, giving you more tools for mid-range. Hunter quest will be mid-range. In fact, I suspect hunter decks will include N'Zoth, or at least, if I pull this quest from the pack I'd try a hunter/N'Zoth mid-range deck first.
It's an alright card. But, given that you're already going to be so behind on tempo after playing the quest, I don't think it's a good idea to use this raptor in the quest deck.
Using this in conjunction with the new hunter 5 drop could be good though. If you play very little one drops, you can increase the chances of getting the big raptor.
The guys who voted for meta-defining and very good probably do not understand it's shuffled into the deck, not added to your hand. This card is tier 3 at best.
You need to understand that Tol'vir Warden isn't worried about that.
on turn 6, probably wont make a big deal, besides you want to play highmane, so this comes out like t7.
After total downfall between whispers of the old gods and Meme Streets of Gadgezan - hunter gains some love again -
i like the way they try to redirect the class
Reading all the comments Hunter will be busted as hell - remember one thing --> This Ungoroset is very control oriented from what weve seen until now - lots of boardclears and strong onboard minions to defend vs aggression --> and not to forget :
Since everyone is saying - Jade will be super strong - i guess they might get some problems vs the Raptor Squad - which is fair and good for the game that there are Counterplays existing to other decks
You dont want one deck busting everything like it was in the past
I see a lot of good opportunities to get creative with the set - and this Hunter direction is pretty likeable
Pretty bad 1 drop. I think people who think this card is busted are delusional. Although it has great synergy with that new card that draws you 1 drops.
Card is essentially two 1 drops for 1 card, nice for the quest deck.
You remember when shaman was in shit, and WotOG make him OP, well,prepare for hunter meta.
The guys who voted for meta-defining and very good probably do not understand it's shuffled into the deck, not added to your hand. This card is tier 3 at best.
Good quest support. Otherwise a poor man's White Eyes.
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Not happy with this push for 1 drops in hunter. The class arguably has the worst draw in the game, so I guess that sort of balances it, but it still seems this could easily be the new problem in HS.
Powerful effect, punishable by priest. Regardless, it's a bit too much stats, I think another 1 mana 3/2 token would make more sense or make the token 2 mana 4/2.
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Yum, another tasty deathrattle to use potion of madness on.
Not a fan of this one. Without the quest this is still stupidly powerful, as they can top deck it the next turn and that's REALLY scary if they are going first. Turn 2: 2/1, 4/3, and whatever other one drop they may have? You best pray for Doomsayer...
Thats an evaluation WITHOUT the quest. WITH the quest this is an auto include, no question, and I am now actually concerned about the hunter quest because hunter has more than enough useable 1 drops now. If they give hunter a good early card draw mechanic, than its going to be a horrifying meta.
Edit: I just realized that this is a deathrattle, and not a battlecry, so you won't be swarmed in turn 2. But this card still doesn't sit right with me
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Just to understand your evaluation: You know that this card goes into your deck, not in your hand?
It's an alright card. But, given that you're already going to be so behind on tempo after playing the quest, I don't think it's a good idea to use this raptor in the quest deck.
Using this in conjunction with the new hunter 5 drop could be good though. If you play very little one drops, you can increase the chances of getting the big raptor.
After total downfall between whispers of the old gods and Meme Streets of Gadgezan - hunter gains some love again -
i like the way they try to redirect the class
Reading all the comments Hunter will be busted as hell - remember one thing --> This Ungoroset is very control oriented from what weve seen until now - lots of boardclears and strong onboard minions to defend vs aggression --> and not to forget :
Since everyone is saying - Jade will be super strong - i guess they might get some problems vs the Raptor Squad - which is fair and good for the game that there are Counterplays existing to other decks
You dont want one deck busting everything like it was in the past
I see a lot of good opportunities to get creative with the set - and this Hunter direction is pretty likeable
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This is like Shaman legendary. Is not bad, but is not great. Is just ok.
Pretty bad 1 drop. I think people who think this card is busted are delusional. Although it has great synergy with that new card that draws you 1 drops.