he was never op. He was just the only decent draw for nuetral. He was the most reliable source of spell damage. Hi'm not stae was a strong body with a dragon tag.
yet he was never too strong. No deck dominated the meta because of azure drake. In fact, azure drake was one of the only control cards to fight back against the dominating aggro. There was no cause for breaking azure drake. Nobody seems to realise that this will hurt control. We already lose reno this rotation.
meanwhile aggro roams free. In case you hadn't noticed, aggro isn't getting harmed at all. It loses the tunnel troggs and totem golems but those aren't played as much anymore. The pirates are still free to roam the game, killing everything in their path. We are just clearing the way for the aggro stampede.
I'm not saying azure drake can stop it. But he can help, he can keep hearthstone a fun, challenging game that lasts over 5 turns. Instead of moving the only aggro counters to wild, how about move some of aggro to wild(power overwhelming doen't count, haven't seen zoolock since before standard). Don't do this to the game blizzard. Save the joy of hearthstone.
Never liked that card. People always seemed to get more value out of him than me. Good riddance. Same goes for Ragnoras who lost me so many games even though I had the upper hand.
As much as I love Azure Drake, it's being rotated out not because it was overpowered, rather the fact it was pretty much an auto include in most decks. As stated on the official post,
"Azure Drake is a strong Neutral card that ended up being a bit too versatile, and thus became one of the most played cards in the game. There should be more five drop options for players, rather than considering Azure Drake an auto-include."
The card doesn't have THAT bad of a body, it has spell power and it draws a card all in 1 package which makes it strong, not including the fact it's also a dragon. Also, while I know that this post was mainly for Azure drake, you mention that Power Overwhelming doesn't count as aggro and I would kinda agree. Like Azure Drake, Power Overwhelming was also able to be used in most decks with ease (being in aggro decks to finish people off and renolock to finish off with Leeroy Faceless Combo). In my opinion, all the cards rotating out have a justified reason to be rotated out. I'm still bummed out about all of them.
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I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
There will be more cards added at some point I would think. How much longer can anyone withstand seeing Gadgetzan Auctioneer? It gets boring after a while playing a game where you feel good about the odds, and then in 1 turn your opponent casts 15 spells and clears your board and also heals back to full while adding a full board of Jade Golem . What will the next 5-8 mana card be that will rule the Classic world?
Why does everyone want to get rid of azure drake!?
Let's address the real problem: THEY DIDN"T MAKE ANY OTHER GOOD 5 DROPS. I mean let's be real. GROOK FU MASTER!?!?!?
NO ONE IS GOING TO PLAY THAT EVEN IF THAT"S ALL WE HAVE.
IF they refuse to make good control cards like azure drake, we just won't have any 5 drops. The only other good Control 5 drops were Sludge Belcher and Antique Healbot. Well, guess what? THOSE CARDS ARE WILD ONLY. IF YOU TAKE AWAY AZURE DRAKE, ALL THE GOOD 5 DROPS WILL BE WILD ONLY.
STOP MAKING BAD CARDS!!!!
They BETTER Produce some good 5 drops in ungoro, but let's be real, they already showed us an absolute garbage 5 drop, which means that there won't be any thing better than that, which means that next expansion 5 drops won't be run.
This last expansion I finally started getting into standard, previously was Wild only. But hey, I may just have to go back. And I suggest you all join me.
Literally every non-aggro deck I have includes Azure drake (slight exaggeration, he's not in c'thun or zoo), so yeah I'm kinda sad to see him go. Totally understand, though - because he's in nearly every deck I play.
That said, can we have better five drops? I think next best card staying in (besides tech like Harrison Jones) is.... Frostwolf Warlord?
That said, can we have better five drops? I think next best card staying in (besides tech like Harrison Jones) is.... Frostwolf Warlord?
I can totally agree with this. After checking the total number of 5 drops that will be in standard (after Ungoro, not including any of the cards in that set), there are only a few good 5 drops, most of which are class specific (Ex. Drakonid Operative, Druid of the Claw, Doomguard, White Eyes) whilst the other ones are either tech cards (Ex. Harrison Jones, Big Game Hunter, Second-Rate Bruiser [which pretty much is just a 3 drop] and Stampeding Kodo) or a niche card(Ex. Like Finja, the flying star, Leeroy Jenkins [saying he is niche because you don't play him on turn 5 unless it's for lethal] and Faceless Manipulator). There are some other good 5 drops that I didn't mention but these tend to be summarize the bunch of them pretty well.
Seeing a strong 5 drop that is just strong on it's own would be a nice change. Hopefully something that is not too aggro focused too.
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I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
I just wanna put something out there: Azure Drake is currently played in multiple aggro decks. When a 5 mana card is played in aggro decks you know it's a problem. Time to move on bro.
Djinni is rotating out of standard and while hogrider is a good tech choice if in a certain meta, A, I kinda looked over it >_> and B, it's rarely seen in constructed so unless there is a big change with the new standard and expansion, I don't think it would suddenly become played, even if it's a strong tech card.
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I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
Seems like everyone is forgetting about Burgly Bully.
Could have sworn I put that on my list but I guess I didn't. Oops. While a Burgly Bully is good on turn 5, not a lot of decks can use it for it's full potential other than reno mage and even still, it's kinda bad if you don't have anything to combo with it.
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I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
He's not overpowered, Team 5 is just full of idiots. Same with Ragnaros and Sylvanus (also, interestingly enough both of those cards have the same counter, fill your board with crap minions and hope Rag hits them or Sylv steals them). There are no good cards in those slots.
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Im here to make the case for azure drake.
he was never op. He was just the only decent draw for nuetral. He was the most reliable source of spell damage. Hi'm not stae was a strong body with a dragon tag.
yet he was never too strong. No deck dominated the meta because of azure drake. In fact, azure drake was one of the only control cards to fight back against the dominating aggro. There was no cause for breaking azure drake. Nobody seems to realise that this will hurt control. We already lose reno this rotation.
meanwhile aggro roams free. In case you hadn't noticed, aggro isn't getting harmed at all. It loses the tunnel troggs and totem golems but those aren't played as much anymore. The pirates are still free to roam the game, killing everything in their path. We are just clearing the way for the aggro stampede.
I'm not saying azure drake can stop it. But he can help, he can keep hearthstone a fun, challenging game that lasts over 5 turns. Instead of moving the only aggro counters to wild, how about move some of aggro to wild(power overwhelming doen't count, haven't seen zoolock since before standard). Don't do this to the game blizzard. Save the joy of hearthstone.
Save azure drake!!
It's too late. Deal with it
Just let it go. Get ready to let go of a lot of cards ! ! Can't wait ! !
Never liked that card. People always seemed to get more value out of him than me. Good riddance. Same goes for Ragnoras who lost me so many games even though I had the upper hand.
As much as I love Azure Drake, it's being rotated out not because it was overpowered, rather the fact it was pretty much an auto include in most decks. As stated on the official post,
"Azure Drake is a strong Neutral card that ended up being a bit too versatile, and thus became one of the most played cards in the game. There should be more five drop options for players, rather than considering Azure Drake an auto-include."
The card doesn't have THAT bad of a body, it has spell power and it draws a card all in 1 package which makes it strong, not including the fact it's also a dragon. Also, while I know that this post was mainly for Azure drake, you mention that Power Overwhelming doesn't count as aggro and I would kinda agree. Like Azure Drake, Power Overwhelming was also able to be used in most decks with ease (being in aggro decks to finish people off and renolock to finish off with Leeroy Faceless Combo). In my opinion, all the cards rotating out have a justified reason to be rotated out. I'm still bummed out about all of them.
I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
There will be more cards added at some point I would think. How much longer can anyone withstand seeing Gadgetzan Auctioneer? It gets boring after a while playing a game where you feel good about the odds, and then in 1 turn your opponent casts 15 spells and clears your board and also heals back to full while adding a full board of Jade Golem . What will the next 5-8 mana card be that will rule the Classic world?
Why does everyone want to get rid of azure drake!?
Let's address the real problem: THEY DIDN"T MAKE ANY OTHER GOOD 5 DROPS. I mean let's be real. GROOK FU MASTER!?!?!?
NO ONE IS GOING TO PLAY THAT EVEN IF THAT"S ALL WE HAVE.
IF they refuse to make good control cards like azure drake, we just won't have any 5 drops. The only other good Control 5 drops were Sludge Belcher and Antique Healbot. Well, guess what? THOSE CARDS ARE WILD ONLY. IF YOU TAKE AWAY AZURE DRAKE, ALL THE GOOD 5 DROPS WILL BE WILD ONLY.
STOP MAKING BAD CARDS!!!!
They BETTER Produce some good 5 drops in ungoro, but let's be real, they already showed us an absolute garbage 5 drop, which means that there won't be any thing better than that, which means that next expansion 5 drops won't be run.
This last expansion I finally started getting into standard, previously was Wild only. But hey, I may just have to go back. And I suggest you all join me.
I like to make cards and discuss game balance.
I enjoy when "No similar decks were found."
My latest deck: http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1366184-scholomance-charge-rez-priest-wild
Literally every non-aggro deck I have includes Azure drake (slight exaggeration, he's not in c'thun or zoo), so yeah I'm kinda sad to see him go. Totally understand, though - because he's in nearly every deck I play.
That said, can we have better five drops? I think next best card staying in (besides tech like Harrison Jones) is.... Frostwolf Warlord?
I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
It's not too late: Go Play Wild Mode.
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Removing Azure Drake will just destroy Druid. It's THE card that makes your deck work. I'm a druid fanatic, so i guess: goodbye hearthstone
I just wanna put something out there: Azure Drake is currently played in multiple aggro decks. When a 5 mana card is played in aggro decks you know it's a problem. Time to move on bro.
Djinni and Hogrider getting no love?
I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
Seems like everyone is forgetting about Burgly Bully.
OP needs to read the announcement again and if he still is confused, needs someone to explain it to him. Drake is not unbalanced, not the reason.
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I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
Never too late...
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
He's not overpowered, Team 5 is just full of idiots. Same with Ragnaros and Sylvanus (also, interestingly enough both of those cards have the same counter, fill your board with crap minions and hope Rag hits them or Sylv steals them). There are no good cards in those slots.