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Just 1 jade isol in your deck and you CANNOT go fatique, so control decks cannot outvalue them
Even if the card is't overpowered its unfun and on its own nearly kills off an entire deck archetype and should be nerfed
however I think part of the reason why blizzard printed this is because they do want to kill off the super heavy control decks that make for boring and frustrating games against new players and a snooze fest for competitive play and encourage a control deck that actually has a game plan for winning that isn't "remove everything"
A thought occurred to me whilst reading through and listening to what players of varying skill had to say. About the upcoming (and current) position of Jade Idol in the meta.
Right now, Jade druid is considered a top tier 2 deck, or lower tier 1 deck. Simply outclassing all other control decks and only struggling against aggro.
What if the card cost increased with each use? Starting as a 0-mana spell, then after the first use, it now costs 1. Then it costs 2 and so on..
Would that make it a fairer card? Capping at 11 uses unless you had any form of spell cost reduction.
This would enable fatigue styles again to have a chance, whilst it would still be strong against some midrange and several control decks. And it would actually make it slightly more resilient against the aggro decks.
Also, if the meta slows down with the new expansion, that seems to be a beneficial thing for the deck.
What do you think?
Many pros and streamers have made videos specifically complaining about the idol. Threads calling for its nerf far surpass any other calls for nerfs since huntertaker, here and on reddit.
Jade idol is extremely unfun to play against: it mixes the inevitability of playing against the biggest C'Thun ever with good tempo taking off on turns 6 or even earlier, if they draw the nuts. They don't have too high a winrate because its counters are a big chunk of the meta, but decks that would counter aggro with a 65% winrate cannot existe when 10-15% of the decks played counter those with a 90% rate (see Renomage).
The mist disturbing thing tough is that you are playing for like 20-almost 30 turns and you know that Druid will win with that. I won't really support this for 1 whole year until jade idol rotates out of standard :(
I'd nerf it like that that you won't be able to create any more jade idols after playing the very first one. The copies will just generate the normal jade golems without the possibility to create more cards. Seems fine to me
Just remember the good times!
Jade Idol is really one of the cases where Blizzard needs to stop touting their mistakes as good designs and stop talking about how "balanced" they think it is, and just admit the community fucking hates it and nerf it. Sometimes game decisions need to be made not just on statistics but about what the community wants. Fuck Jade archetype and fuck Jade Idol.
Keep Calm and RAG FACE
Or maybe the time this poll was made no1 rly cared?
Whats more Jade Idol is only broken against fatigue decks. Although kazakus warlock will have gib problem defeating jade druid it is doable. Its worse in case of kazakus mage.
I myself play most often midrange decks and i dont care about this card as i dont find it problematic.
TBH i prefer to lose on turn 10 or 12 then wait until fatigue.
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Card Design ChampionReading all those comments, understanding other people's concerns - I cannot do anything but agree (with both sides).
I'm one of those people, that voted Yes. My deck was renolock (how original, i know), it had some cards against aggro, against jade and so on, but it was really annoying how I used my big removals just to clear their beefy jades and see on the following turn how they summoned even more. Infinite value vs finite removal + the abusive combo with Auctioneer. Now, I'm not going to post a salty thread here - people said, what it should have been said. I will just mention, that the last expansion was a big abomination for all of us - so many few decks were played, we knew from the start about our opponent's deck and if we had a chance to win or not. It was terrible - monotonous, boring, nothing new to experiment with. There was no hunter, no paladin, not to mention the most played decks were aggro, jade, reno, dragon. We couldn't see enough from the goons, we couldn't see (let's say) murloc shaman or Nzoth something, etc. But nevertheless I will just put it down:
This expansion, even as a disaster, can lead to something better. The reason I'm saying this is because blizz should learn from their mistakes and try to prevent future ones. I'm kinda optimistic, but what can I do?
OP tired of playing Shaman and Pirate war, not succeeding with other decks because Jade Druid is forcing you to play other decks, not netdecks?
Such a pity for this community ....makes me sick!
How is druid going to remove big threats in Ungoro? With naturalize ? Lol
By trading inifinite giant jades into them.
Must be two mana or just put 3 cards in to deck that summons jade golem