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This reminds me of the old shaman cards(the ones that nobody played and made the class a joke for more than 2 years)
Whats the point of Overload on this cards?Every other class spell that discover something cost only 1 mana.

raven idol for shamans

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No way midrange shaman would bring this in their decks. However, control shaman definitely will

Firstly, shamans are known for huge swingy cards that slap overload on them, so realistically, with a card like this, since you are already overloaded, you want to discover something not necessarily a slap on curve minion but something that brings future value, which means big minions or some form of removal. In worst case scenarios, you would discover either dust devil, ancestral knowledge, or totem golem, but either way, most of the shaman overload cards are huge tempo swings that have a ridiculously big impact. Heck, if you discover earth elemental, thats going to be huge in a control matchup, or against another aggro deck, discovering a lightning storm or even chain lightning is rather nice. 

If this card gave no overload, then I'd say its definitely better than journey below. However since it does, and its awkward with synergies with tunnel trogg and spirit claws, then this card is on par with journey below, maybe slightly better 

 Yeah, I think this might be deceptively good. The card pool is actually relatively small. Like what's the chance to just discover Doom Hammer?

 

I feel the same way. It's like a Raven Idol but with a much more controlled environment to pick a card from. Having Overload is actually a bonus as you can pick it again if you don't get a good choice the first time around.

Waaaay too expensive. I suppose the point is to remove the overload or benefit from it somehow, but still...

 Minions with Overload:

- Fireguard Destroyer: Not bad card to get;

- Flamewreathed Faceless: Pretty good card;

- Totem Golem: Not bad card to get, not sure if picking a 2 mana is the right choice;

- Earth Elemental: In some circumstances can be pretty good;

- Jinyu Waterspeaker: Pretty good card;

- Dust Devil: The only BAD card to get in my opinion;

Spells with Overload:

- Ancestral Knowledge: Pretty good, drawing is always good.

 - Lightning Bolt: Probably don't want to choose a 1 mana spell, but not that bad;

- Stormcrack: Sometimes can be usefull, not that bad;

- Feral Spirit: Can be good sometimes;

- Lightning Storm: Pretty good against some decks;

- Lava Burst: Good when needed to remove a important target or finish the oponent;

- Elemental Destruction: Probably one of the best cards you can get if playing from behind;

- Forked Lightning: Not amazing, but in the right circumstances can be good;

- Finders Keepers: Unless all the other 2 options are bad, or you are trying to use more spells (Arcane Giant) this is probably not the best choice;

 Weapons with Overload:

- Doomhammer: Pretty good!

- Jade Claws: Only if playing Jade golem I guess...

- Stormforged Axe: Can be good, but usually you rather choose a higher mana cost;

So basically out of the 18 options, only one is trully bad ( Dust Devil ) I don't think it is as good as Journey Below, but it is probably as good as the I Know a Guy even it costing (1) overload more. Probably Reno Shaman could use this card, not sure if this is better than Jeweled Scarab or Lotus Agents, probably not.

I like a lot discover because is the most close we have to a sideboard, this card can find a mass removal vs aggro or a big minion vs control, the overload in this card is for buff trogg and elemental.

mally shaman with arcane golems here i come

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Journey Below

 

I get that it's flavorful and all, but this card is much worse than both of those.

I've recently been fooling around with a deck Unbound Elementals in it, so this card looks kind of fun to me.

I call it bad, but...

this is one of those cards where you wonder if bad card can make deck good

This card should cost 0...........?

Overload is a totally different beast than Taunt and Deathrattle though.

Overload has a much smaller card pool to select from than either of the other two, and a lot of the Overload cards are amazing removal of some form or another. Need a big minion? This can find you one. Need a heal? This can get you the new 3/6. Need a board wipe? This can get you one. Weapon? Have a Doomhammer.

There are 3 weapons, 6 minions, and 9 spells that have Overload in them in Standard. I'm not going to try to do the math, but the odds of Stormforged Axe, Totem Golem, and Forked Lightning being your picks are slim. This card is pure value.

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Overload is a totally different beast than Taunt and Deathrattle though.

 

Overload has a much smaller card pool to select from than either of the other two, and a lot of the Overload cards are amazing removal of some form or another. Need a big minion? This can find you one. Need a heal? This can get you the new 3/6. Need a board wipe? This can get you one. Weapon? Have a Doomhammer.

 

There are 3 weapons, 6 minions, and 9 spells that have Overload in them in Standard. I'm not going to try to do the math, but the odds of Stormforged Axe, Totem Golem, and Forked Lightning being your picks are slim. This card is pure value.

 And these are ALL class cards so usually better cards

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Yo dogg, I heard you like overload...

Overload is a good thing in many cases.  Buff the trogg.

I will definitely run this in my giants shaman. It can give me board clear when I need it, heal when I need it or another giant when I need it. Card is insane, most of the people saying the card is bad have only ever worked with midrange shaman which is a deck that doesn't want this card. It's a really really good control card because of what the overload options are.

Without the Overload, I think this card will be insane in the current Midrange Shaman archetype.

People were complaining about MR Shaman, and now people are also complaining about this card being bad. You cant satisfy the best of both worlds.

No one remembers Unbound Elemental?  The life gain on that thing would be OP if it worked like Tunnel Trogg.

Still good enough for Control since you usually just pass turns with hero power spam.

I don't think anyone has mentioned that it has Overload itself, so it can discover itself. Not that it make the card better, but it's something I thought I would point out.