I can't tell if this is serious.....You're going to use up 2 slots in a deck for a card that provides no real resource. Wonder how it'll feel for rogues who topdeck this late game
Rogues in topdecking mode have already lost the game.
I main miracle rogue and this card is the worst card that has been revealed so far. It's just pointless. Miracle combo is already strong. It doesn't really atter how fast you can cycle your deck if you can't win anyways. Rogue lacks bowrdclear and some heal/avoid damage mechanics. It doesn't worth a slot in deck, because in miracle/malygos rogue you already have to sacrifice some cards like conceal or shadow strike. This card is useless. If I get my auctioneer to turn 6 I will cycle good without this card. Edwin combo is also bad considered how easily he can be countered. Worst card revealed for rogue.
If you main rogue, then you should know that the biggest weakness is dealing with aggro. You use the coin for tempo vs aggro and save it to cycle vs control. The reason they lack boardclear or healing is that they fall behind in the early game.
Guys please don't compare this card with Tomb Pillager. Tomb Pillager is way better because he has good 5/4 body attached to that Coin. Without real body this card don't have real value. Except new expansion will have other ways to convert coin to card draw other then auctioneer this card is not as good as you desribe. It's borderline playable in the best case.
I can't tell if this is serious.....You're going to use up 2 slots in a deck for a card that provides no real resource. Wonder how it'll feel for rogues who topdeck this late game
Rogues in topdecking mode have already lost the game.
Not really...rogue has a lot of cycling (azure drake ,shiv, fok etc) so topdecking one of those cards is not that bad.
The thing is we need a fine balance between cycling cards and synergstic but conditionel cards like Counterfeit Coin. Adding too many of those will just make the deck less consistant , especially when better cards like Journey Below have hard time breaking into the deck
Backstab is partially better than Moonfire because it's in rogue, to which 1 damage via HP is cheaper ( Both because you get 2 damage total per HP, but also because you can "store" your HP, typically beginning on turn 2 ), which helps these cheap spells because they rarely ever have the power to do something meaningful alone ; There's also that Druid has no value for cheap spells simply for being Combo activators.
This card IS worse than Innervate in a vacuum, but not so much when put into the context of their classes.
Think of it this way ; One more mana on your Mana generator, or it, Choose one : draws a card, adds +2/+2 to your Van Cleef, deals 2 damage ( That's what most Combos do ) ? if not all of those at the same time ! Yeah, Counterfeit Coin, we agree on that.
In MTG when Lotus Petal was released was a meh card... later on, after a while it was restricted / banned
Free mana is always combo material that can get over the board nuts!
This card is actually one of the most risky in terms of design that Blizzard released. But the game needs combo, so i'm actually happy (even if it gets nerfed later on...)
In MTG when Lotus Petal was released was a meh card... later on, after a while it was restricted / banned
Free mana is always combo material that can get over the board nuts!
This card is actually one of the most risky in terms of design that Blizzard released. But the game needs combo, so i'm actually happy (even if it gets nerfed later on...)
This will see play for sure.
Hearthstone is not MtG. In Hearthstone you need tempo (minions on board) to stay alive.
I made an account to say how laughably bad this card is. Worse than both innervate and tomb pillager. I guess it could be used in miracle after pillager gets rotated out of standard, but without something else to increase the deck's power level, miracle rogue will be even less viable than it already is.
I'm not even sure how to respond to this? Tomb Pillager is a bad card? uh........
I made an account to say how laughably bad this card is. Worse than both innervate and tomb pillager. I guess it could be used in miracle after pillager gets rotated out of standard, but without something else to increase the deck's power level, miracle rogue will be even less viable than it already is.
I'm not even sure how to respond to this? Tomb Pillager is a bad card? uh........
He isn't saying Tomb Pillager or Innervate is a bad card, in fact, he's saying the exact opposite. He's saying that including this card in a Miracle list is redundant, at least until Tomb Pillager rotates out.
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Murloc Priest is secretly the best deck in the game.
The reason this card is not as good as people claim:
Drawing it before your Auctionner was ready put you into card disadvantage. At early game, top-decking the coin when your hand is very bad may cost you the game.
The only time i'd rather have this over a tomb pillager is when I draw it while cycling with an auctioneer, or to build up a crazy edwin early in the game. Other than those edge cases its a strictly worse alternative. If this is all they're planning on giving to keep miracle alive the same way tomb pillager did, i dont think it can stay a tier 3 deck.
The reason this card is not as good as people claim:
Drawing it before your Auctionner was ready put you into card disadvantage. At early game, top-decking the coin when your hand is very bad may cost you the game.
Except it's not. Using it on auctioneer is ONE of its uses. You can also use it on turns 1-2-3 to trigger your early game combo cards. You can't do that with tomb piligar.
I mean, a simple and weak card like this suddenly made cards like defias ringleader, bladed cultist, and shadow pan panda x100 times more playable. Also, you can't believe how many times rogues waste a prep just to trigger Si on turn 3.
The reason they lack boardclear or healing is that they fall behind in the early game.
Guys please don't compare this card with Tomb Pillager. Tomb Pillager is way better because he has good 5/4 body attached to that Coin. Without real body this card don't have real value. Except new expansion will have other ways to convert coin to card draw other then auctioneer this card is not as good as you desribe. It's borderline playable in the best case.
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In MTG when Lotus Petal was released was a meh card... later on, after a while it was restricted / banned
Free mana is always combo material that can get over the board nuts!
This card is actually one of the most risky in terms of design that Blizzard released. But the game needs combo, so i'm actually happy (even if it gets nerfed later on...)
This will see play for sure.
Priest received broken cards, the level of recent shaman cards.
For Valeera they said "Here girl, keep the chance".
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coin + counterfeit coin + counterfeit coin + prep + edwin = turn 1 win
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These new cards are so creative and interesting. This expansion looks awesome so far!
RIP yogg-saron good things don't last forever :(
Murloc Priest is secretly the best deck in the game.
The reason this card is not as good as people claim:
Drawing it before your Auctionner was ready put you into card disadvantage. At early game, top-decking the coin when your hand is very bad may cost you the game.
The only time i'd rather have this over a tomb pillager is when I draw it while cycling with an auctioneer, or to build up a crazy edwin early in the game. Other than those edge cases its a strictly worse alternative. If this is all they're planning on giving to keep miracle alive the same way tomb pillager did, i dont think it can stay a tier 3 deck.
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It's like Van Cleef and Gadgetzan Auctioneer had a baby, then sold their baby for this card.
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still too much tempo to come back from