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After playing the deck for 2 season, i know that worgen deck is hard to play and not op of couse. Ice block is a counter in a way also freezing trap

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Argh, tough call. This nerf is obviously because of worgen OTK. Anyway, people are whining like worgen OTK is some braindead draw and answer until you draw combo deck, while it's one of the hardest decks in the game and NOT BROKEN imo. The funny part is that according to statistics some of the people who say this play decks like midrange hunter and aggro shaman.

Anyway, while I do aggree it wasn't fun and interactive, RIP another deck that actually takes skill. You go visit old patron in heaven.

 I'm sick of this "it's the only skilled deck that exists" bullshit. That's what people say about Freeze mage, old patron (new patron!) and FoN + SR decks. If you want to play a "skill" game, go play priest. You can toot your own horn when you beat zoo with the perfect hand of clears. At least you can say then that you arose to the challenge and came out the übermensch that you claim to be.

I feel like they could've kept the attack increase and mana cost (or dropped it to 2 mana maybe?) and people still might have played it as a tool for trading up. Honestly, I think they just need to change the charge mechanic altogether. Either improve the stats of charge minions and make it where they can't attack heroes at all, or keep the stats the same and just prevent them from attacking heroes on the turn they're played.

A lot of people are focusing on the fact it kills OTK which personally I'm happy about. Not a lot is being made about its now only 1 mana and will buff something permanently by 2 att and allow you to drop a fat minion and trade it right away. Now don't get me wrong it's probably still bad. But I'm calling it now this might actually see play in midrange and control decks.

edit: also noticed lots of people worried about blizzard not sticking to there word about combo support. Combo decks and OTK decks aren't always the same thing. OTK is only a specific type of combo deck. This change actually opens up more combo possibilities.

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Quote from Maukiepaukie >>

Argh, tough call. This nerf is obviously because of worgen OTK. Anyway, people are whining like worgen OTK is some braindead draw and answer until you draw combo deck, while it's one of the hardest decks in the game and NOT BROKEN imo. The funny part is that according to statistics some of the people who say this play decks like midrange hunter and aggro shaman.

Anyway, while I do aggree it wasn't fun and interactive, RIP another deck that actually takes skill. You go visit old patron in heaven.

 I'm sick of this "it's the only skilled deck that exists" bullshit. That's what people say about Freeze mage, old patron (new patron!) and FoN + SR decks. If you want to play a "skill" game, go play priest. You can toot your own horn when you beat zoo with the perfect hand of clears. At least you can say then that you arose to the challenge and came out the übermensch that you claim to be.

I'm very excited about the change.  Since I never played Worgen, I look at this change as a pure buff for warrior.

Quote from dr3amb3ing >>

Wow they should honestly just remove this card from the game at this point when would anyone ever want to charge a minion just to trade it. I don't even play OTK decks and this nerf just pisses me off there is no thought here other than completely removing worgen OTK or any other combo deck as an deck type

They could make it cost 0 hmm maybe patron will want this card now as a 1 off.. to activate the everyone get in here!

Well that puts the final nail in the coffin for warrior OTK decks. 

Honestly I only play this game nowadays because of how much I like OTK decks.

Otk Frost Giant Warrior, raging worgen otk Warrior, Alex + gorehowl warr , anyfin paladin and so on.  Is my winrate great? No. I could simply play Curvestone like most other people and call it a day.

Unless they release new combo cards in the next expansions I'm probably out. If somebody could recommend me card games where combo decks actually exist please point me in that direction, thanks.

People are talking about Worgen OTK and i am thinking this change will make Warrior stronger in Arena

You should've put another option.

Liked it except for Yogg nerf.. That guy just needed to stay out of tournaments

Probably an unavoidable nerf in the long run. Still I dont feel like it was 100% necessary. After this we will have lost the last competitive combo deck. 

This, strictly speaking, isn't a nerf. It's basically replacing one card with a different one. A nerf would be making charge 4 mana or reducing damage by 1. This is just totally different. It's kind of a buff if you wanted to use it to combo with patron warrior, and a nerf for OTK worgens/giants/etc. 

Love it or hate it, I don't think "nerf" is the right word here.

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This, strictly speaking, isn't a nerf. It's basically replacing one card with a different one. A nerf would be making charge 4 mana or reducing damage by 1. This is just totally different. It's kind of a buff if you wanted to use it to combo with patron warrior, and a nerf for OTK worgens/giants/etc. 

Love it or hate it, I don't think "nerf" is the right word here.

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This, strictly speaking, isn't a nerf. It's basically replacing one card with a different one. A nerf would be making charge 4 mana or reducing damage by 1. This is just totally different. It's kind of a buff if you wanted to use it to combo with patron warrior, and a nerf for OTK worgens/giants/etc. 

Love it or hate it, I don't think "nerf" is the right word here.

 Correct, this is more of a card redesign than a nerf.

In my opinion the should just remove the charge mechanic completely and redesign all the affected cards, charge is the less fun effect on HS since day 1.

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"While we enjoy seeing players explore combo styles of play and will continue to support it in the future" Biggest bullshit they ever said, there will never be strong combo decks in this goddamn game, blizzard will make sure of that, curvestone is the way to go.