Its clearly broken and needs a nerf. Obviously they could make it a 1-1 or only give a 1 buff....but I was just wondering HOW broken is it? Is it broken enough to get play at 1 mana more?
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I realize there is lance carrier...but aggro decks need buffs...so maybe lance carrier would replace a 2 mana abusive in those decks since the buff is permanent. But a 1-2 is so brutal. At least a 2-1 can kill a 2 drop on its own.
It's not a 2 mana card for a reason. It would need to be magma rager-ish at 3-1 plus the buff or even 2/2 plus to the buff to receive play at 2 mana. Even then... only in rare occasions. It requires you to have a board to play it, hence the 2/1 without charge which for me, rarely lives to see the next turn (a 1 mana ping removes it.. it's no leper gnome).
I don't believe it is broken at all. I hardly use the minion, don't really play Zoodecks. @ 2 cost, I think people would not use it nearly as much since the +2 is not permeate.
"Its clearly broken and needs a nerf." -- You need to add 'I think' or 'Imo' to the start of that sentence.
Imo at 2 mana the card becomes unplayable and would need a buff so that's not going to happen, the only nerf I could see is the change to 1-1 though I honestly think it's fine as it is.
It's balanced in that it's effect is rendered void if treated as a 1 drop. a 1 mana 2-1 is fine. a 1 mana 2-1 that gives another minion +2 attack is also fine as the requirement is that you have to have a minion already on board that doesn't have summoning sickness or has charge
the card is good, but not the problem, it suffers the 1 mana problem, it will either suck horribly or be kind of op, the difference is in half points, a ting that can't be implemented, let it be what it is.
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Just fill your deck with one drops, that is creative deck design, right?
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One of the most broken cards in the entire game, this, along with trogg and mana wyrm are what's wrong with this game, powerhouse 1 drops that decide the game in the first few turns, you clearly have no clue about this game if you think this card enabling value trades into a 5 drop for 1 mana isn't broken. It's been known for a long time, agreed by multiple pros and streamers that this card and 1 drops in general need a nerf.
Its clearly broken and needs a nerf. Obviously they could make it a 1-1 or only give a 1 buff....but I was just wondering HOW broken is it? Is it broken enough to get play at 1 mana more?
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I realize there is lance carrier...but aggro decks need buffs...so maybe lance carrier would replace a 2 mana abusive in those decks since the buff is permanent. But a 1-2 is so brutal. At least a 2-1 can kill a 2 drop on its own.
They would probably just make it a 1/1 or something, as for your question i don't think it would see play a 2 mana, simply too much competition
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+1 permanent attack bonus... could work.
But where the heck is the (neutral) cards that REDUCE attack of an enemy minion throughout the opponent's turn where it matters?
It's not a 2 mana card for a reason. It would need to be magma rager-ish at 3-1 plus the buff or even 2/2 plus to the buff to receive play at 2 mana. Even then... only in rare occasions. It requires you to have a board to play it, hence the 2/1 without charge which for me, rarely lives to see the next turn (a 1 mana ping removes it.. it's no leper gnome).
I don't believe it is broken at all. I hardly use the minion, don't really play Zoodecks. @ 2 cost, I think people would not use it nearly as much since the +2 is not permeate.
"Its clearly broken and needs a nerf." -- You need to add 'I think' or 'Imo' to the start of that sentence.
Imo at 2 mana the card becomes unplayable and would need a buff so that's not going to happen, the only nerf I could see is the change to 1-1 though I honestly think it's fine as it is.
It's balanced in that it's effect is rendered void if treated as a 1 drop. a 1 mana 2-1 is fine. a 1 mana 2-1 that gives another minion +2 attack is also fine as the requirement is that you have to have a minion already on board that doesn't have summoning sickness or has charge
the card is good, but not the problem, it suffers the 1 mana problem, it will either suck horribly or be kind of op, the difference is in half points, a ting that can't be implemented, let it be what it is.
Just fill your deck with one drops, that is creative deck design, right?
It needs a nerf, I don't like how Blizz likes giving small minions high attack while they have such a good effect already.
It should be 1/1. That would be fair, similar to how they nerfed leper gnome.
First: I agree, the card it's broken and need a nerf.
Second: No, at to mana the card it's unplayble I think.
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I gotta say this out load so I can get it straight in my head. Abusive Sergeant needs a nerf. News flash - no. I swear they'll want to nerf Frostbolt next.
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You stop it from trading up twice if it's a 1/1. That's probably the most reasonable change.
neft to 1/1 is ok but if it cost 2 mana i think people will use lance carrier instead
Why exactly it needs nerf? The card is fine. It's body is super weak (removed with ping, wirlwind, random points of damage), his buff is situational.
He is only broken good with cheap sticky minions, that is the actual problem of this game.
One of the most broken cards in the entire game, this, along with trogg and mana wyrm are what's wrong with this game, powerhouse 1 drops that decide the game in the first few turns, you clearly have no clue about this game if you think this card enabling value trades into a 5 drop for 1 mana isn't broken. It's been known for a long time, agreed by multiple pros and streamers that this card and 1 drops in general need a nerf.
It's not broken, it's a cool card.
That's the kind of cards aggressive decks should have at their disposal. Hardhitting but fragile. Not 0 mana 5/5s and 9-damage 1-cost weapons.
1/1 for 1 is a fair nerf.