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Bloodmage Thalnos vs Sylvanas Windrunner

Hi everyone,

I'm a F2P player and have many missing cards from the classic set, and missing almost all of the Legionaries besides Tirion and Grommish Hellscreamer. My favorite classes to play are Shaman and Rogue. I have been playing all my ranked games with a Mid-Range Bloodlust Shaman that I have been playing since I started last summer. I have climbed to as high as 8 with it and really enjoy playing Shaman. I just crafted a Doomhammer and I almost have enough viable cards to also play aggro Shaman (missing lava burst/AK). When playing casual or questing I like to play Rogue even though I'm missing many cards to make it competitive. I'm missing Thalnos, Van Cleef, Gadget, and violet teacher. 

Anyways I was trying to get some advice on what you guys  think I should craft. As a F2P player I don't think I will ever have but a couple decks that can be competitive in ranked. I have 2800 dust and have been waiting to spend it on a Legendary and the rest on supporting cards. From doing research it seems like Sylvanas is the no-brainer to craft, but I don't know how well she fits into decks I like to play. I guess I could use her in a Mid Shaman. Thalnos seems like a must in Rogue and I have occasionally seen him in Shaman decks. 

I appreciate any feedback

I would say [card]Sylvanas Windrunner[/card] due to the multipurpose element, although if you are a rouge player[card] Bloodmage Thalnos[/card] is  really good in most rouge decks. Having crafted both I would say [card]Sylvanas Windrunner[/card] has more versatility in more decks. but I don't think you will regret either!

Thanks for the Immediate feedback. Another option is Al'Akir the windlord , but it seems like he is not necessary for Mid Shaman. 

I'm definitely thinking I'm going to make Sylvanas my first Legendary that I craft. If I craft her I will have around 1200 dust left. Do you think I should save up another 400 for Thalnos or use the remaining for some missing rares that I don't have for Shaman and Rogue?

Rogue: Gadget , Violet Teacher, Journey Below

Shaman: Eternal Sentinal, Lava Burst, AK, 

My advice with no hesitation would be Sylvanas Windrunner.

 - she has always been a top tier Legendary through all the Metas since the beginning

- she can fit in almost every deck

 - she is even stronger now that Silence is more expensive

- her efect is completely unique unlike Bloodmage Thalnos, that is very good Legendary but is replaceable (Loot Hoarder if you favor card draw or Kobold Geomancer for spell damage.

- on the long run and as you get more cards and will want to play more decks you will find Sylvanas is far more useful.

Hope this helps!

Thank you!

I'm going to craft her. Now I have to figure out what I want to do with the other 1200 dust. 

I'd suggest you to keep your dust to craft Van Cleef. 

You'll get dust by opening packs. And the odds are you'll more easely get the other cards you need than Van cleef. Win/win scenario imho.

Why would anyone tell him to craft Sylvanas, if his main classes are Shaman and Rogue? Thats absurd! Craft Thalnos, he is a much, much better fit for those two classes. All those people telling you to use Geomancer instead have obviously never played Rogue.

And Edwin van Cleef over Thalnos?? Ridiculous. Thalnos is so much stronger!

I crafted Sylvanas. I feel like in the long run that was the better/safer purchase. Even if  I won't use her so much right now. I will probably throw her in my Warrior & Priest decks I use for questing. I'm also going to save my leftover 1240 dust for another legendary. 

I will be deciding between Thalnos, Van Cleef, Al'Akir 

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Why would anyone tell him to craft Sylvanas, if his main classes are Shaman and Rogue? Thats absurd! Craft Thalnos, he is a much, much better fit for those two classes. All those people telling you to use Geomancer instead have obviously never played Rogue.

And Edwin van Cleef over Thalnos?? Ridiculous. Thalnos is so much stronger!

 

 Because Sylvannas is the best legendary in the game.

Thalnos < Edwin in rogue decks that AREN'T Miracle Rogue, Thalnos > Edwin in miracle rogue.

You will not regret crafting Sylvie. She's helped my games tremendously

Honestly thalnos fits way better in most rogue decks(deathrattle rogue being the one excetion). In shaman typically you would not run either of those cards. You might be better to craft towards the violet teachers and gadgetzans etc than make one legendary honestly. Neither thalnos or sylvanas are needed in most decks to be competitive. I have taken miracle rogue very high without using thalnos. Its really just a good utility card. In most cases shiv replaces it just fine. If you must get legendary sylvanas is the better of the two but unless you are planning on playing a control deck i wouldn't waste the dust.

Do you play rogue????????????? HOw many times have you played thalnos on two and had your opponent concede? Edwin is card that can and will win you the game when played early. Especially in standard.

Thalnos is an excellent cycling card, but nothing more than that. 

With a limited amount of dust, it's not a good idea to craft him, no matter what your class is.  You can craft 4 epics or countless other cards which would be much more relevant for your gameplay, with the amount required for thalnos.

You can replace thalnos with a Kobold Geomancer or a Loot Hoarder or a Novice Engineer depending on your kind of rogue, without noticing much of a difference most of the times.

Also, Sylvanas is a great character, she's damn cool and sexy, thalnos is an unknown skeletal mage with a first name.

Sylvanas for sure. I'm so happy to have her in my collection. Sylvanas has become a must have!

I've been thinking about Thalnos for months now and I was lucky enough to get a golden version this Wednesday after the brawl. I'm in love with this card! BUT!! Sylvanas is the #1 legendary in standard right now, no questions about it. 

If any of you have the time to look at my card collection in my profile to see if you have any good deck ideas for my newly created Sylvanas that would be appreciated. I'm F2P so I know i'm probably not going to be able to make the best control deck with Sylvanas, but I feel like I can start trying one out and learn how to use her efficiently. In the mean time I will continue to play my Bloodlust Shaman (Ranked) and my Budget Miracle Rogue (casual).

I'm saving my extra 1240 dust for now. 

Congratz on crafting one of the strongest cards in the game!! Gl hf!

Thanks for the input!

I'm gonna try this deck out. Going to make it my second Shaman deck. 

So after gathering more dust through duplicates I have 1600 dust. So based on my preferences in the OP and after already crafting Sylvanas what do you think I should do? 

*Craft 1 of either Bloodmage Thalnos, Edwin Van Cleef or Al'Akir the Windlord

*Craft missing rare/epics -  Rogue (Gadgetzan Auctioneer, Violet Teacher, Journey Below),  Shaman (Eternal Sentinal, Hammer of Twilight), Warrior (Brawl, Armorsmith), Priest (Cobal Shadow Priest) 

After Shaman and Rogue I play Warrior and Priest the most. 

I'm envious of the amount of dust you have.