Librarian is always bad and sometimes a +1/+1 Loot Hoarder, in a class with almost infinite card draw. Succubus is always bad and sometimes a +1/+1 vanilla two drop.
There is no case to be had for librarian. It's a terrible design, because a) it's for the wrong class and b) there is no benefit to playing it.
Darnassus Aspirant has a good design. It's not overpowered and has a tangible benefit to be played. It's solid all around.
If Liberian would have been "Battlecry: Draw a card. Deathrattle: Discard a card." that would have been much better.
edit: Succubus isn't actually all that bad. It's similar to Totem Golem, except with the wrong stat distribution. Would it be a 3/4 it might actually see some play. The problem is simply that it trades with other 2 drops, so there is no advantage to play it.
Seems crazy unless opponent has brawl or Circle combo to clear all.
Can even keep it after a big board clear. Either way I think there are lots of ways to get a lot of value out of this minion.
Yeah, in my first draft, I actually had Nerubian Prophet in here. It's awesome for shaman—it plays really well with overload and it's hilariously strong with Master of Evolution. What stopped me was thinking about shaman's card-draw problems. They didn't get any new card draw, and there's no good new neutral card draw. A relatively low-value card that helps Thrall dump his hand even faster might not be what the doctor ordered.
As I explained, it does have an upside: If you play it from an empty hand (which is not unrealistic in a fast deck), there's no discard, but you do get a free card draw. And that's what makes it a step in the right direction—whereas Succubus is terrible if you don't have Tiny Knight in play or Fist in hand, Librarian is a perfectly average 2-mana play even if it doesn't trigger anything (you're not going to fatigue with an aggro warlock, after all) and pure value if it does.
the problem with librarian is the, that card draw is not value at all, cause you use two cards to draw one card and of that cards was discarted so you dont realy use his effect, and on top of that being a 3/2 make it worst cause can die even agains a 1 drop so thats why most of the time is just worst than succubus. and the point isd the, if succubus is bad, this is worst
I don't understand how Librarian is ever good. It's a standard 2-drop that essentially gives you nothing. And warlocks'll need a LOT more discard synergy before discardlock becomes close to possible.
I think Blood To Ichor is actually a crazy good card. I'm definitely trying it in a Patron list, using it on a Patron gives a 3/2, 3/3, and 2/2 for 6 mana (not to mention that the Patrons are somewhat difficult to deal with) and even when not using it on a Patron, it's an Execute activator, it lets you finish something off with your weapon (pretty huge with the loss of Death's Bite), and many more. The possibilities are endless. I haven't seen many people talk about this card but I think it's fantastic in the right deck.
I don't understand how Librarian is ever good. It's a standard 2-drop that essentially gives you nothing. And warlocks'll need a LOT more discard synergy before discardlock becomes close to possible.
It's not good, it's just playable, with minor upside and modest discard synergy. It's very slightly above average, i.e. not OP enough for competitive ladder play yet, but not deserving of the extreme scorn that's been heaped on it. You might be playing it next year, depending on what comes out in the next couple expansions.
You will never play Eldritch Horror (which people rated much higher) outside of arena.
I think Blood To Ichor is actually a crazy good card. I'm definitely trying it in a Patron list, using it on a Patron gives a 3/2, 3/3, and 2/2 for 6 mana (not to mention that the Patrons are somewhat difficult to deal with) and even when not using it on a Patron, it's an Execute activator, it lets you finish something off with your weapon (pretty huge with the loss of Death's Bite), and many more. The possibilities are endless. I haven't seen many people talk about this card but I think it's fantastic in the right deck.
This one was actually quite well received (although rated lower than Blood Warriors, among others). It's a great card, and I'm looking forward to seeing what people do with it.
I actually think Blood Warriors fits best in Control Warrior. I'm fairly sure any CW player would want 4 Armorsmith's in their deck and this card is the only way that is possible.
I do agree that Hogger is being underrated. I would also add Bog Creeper to the list. Just because he isn't flashy doesn't mean he won't see play, especially when we have extremely weak options on the 7 mana slot now that Boom is going away. Maybe people haven't noticed but Bog Creeper is just slightly inferior to a card that sees a lot of play in Druid : Ancient of War. You lose 2 health, gain 1 attack plus less vulnerability to silence. If other classes could play Ancient of War I am pretty sure many decks would play him.
I agree! Bog Creeper is perfectly statted for a big, basic taunt minion, and might be good enough for constructed. I'm not sure how many non-druid decks would play Ancient of War if they could—part of the appeal in druid is the ability to ramp him out and just smother the opponent's board starting on turn 4 or 5—but I guess we're going to find out. Any class that used to run Sunwalker will probably give this guy a good long look.
I think Corrupted Seer is getting almost no love. I think he will have a place outside of Murloc decks.
Most other classes have better AoE removal. Rogue might run him since their AoE removal may as well be non existant. But even they have Dark Iron Skulker. He is just very expensive for what is essentially early game removal. He is one of those cards you might pick up from a discover or are happy to get from a portal or Shifter Zerus but I don't think he is good enough to demand a deck slot anywhere.
I think Corrupted Seer is getting almost no love. I think he will have a place outside of Murloc decks.
Most other classes have better AoE removal. Rogue might run him since their AoE removal may as well be non existant. But even they have Dark Iron Skulker. He is just very expensive for what is essentially early game removal. He is one of those cards you might pick up from a discover or are happy to get from a portal or Shifter Zerus but I don't think he is good enough to demand a deck slot anywhere.
Agreed. I think they pushed the cost a little too far. The effect is very similar to Demonwrath—better, since murlocs are more cohesive as a tribe, but probably still worth roughly 3 mana. At 5 mana, Corrupted Seer might see play. At 6, he's often going to be the only play you can make in a given turn, and he's just not strong enough.
Just on Steward of Darkshire, I think it was mentioned in a Blue post a while back that it'll work with Twilight Drake, which also happens to be on curve. So maybe not THAT disappointing.
That's a pretty cool combo, but how many 1-health minions and dragons can you fit in a deck together? Twilight Drake has mild anti-synergy with 1-drops, and there are very few 1-health guys more expensive than that.
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Librarian is always bad and sometimes a +1/+1 Loot Hoarder, in a class with almost infinite card draw.
Succubus is always bad and sometimes a +1/+1 vanilla two drop.
There is no case to be had for librarian. It's a terrible design, because a) it's for the wrong class and b) there is no benefit to playing it.
Darnassus Aspirant has a good design. It's not overpowered and has a tangible benefit to be played. It's solid all around.
If Liberian would have been "Battlecry: Draw a card. Deathrattle: Discard a card." that would have been much better.
edit: Succubus isn't actually all that bad. It's similar to Totem Golem, except with the wrong stat distribution. Would it be a 3/4 it might actually see some play. The problem is simply that it trades with other 2 drops, so there is no advantage to play it.
I don't understand how Librarian is ever good. It's a standard 2-drop that essentially gives you nothing. And warlocks'll need a LOT more discard synergy before discardlock becomes close to possible.
I think Blood To Ichor is actually a crazy good card. I'm definitely trying it in a Patron list, using it on a Patron gives a 3/2, 3/3, and 2/2 for 6 mana (not to mention that the Patrons are somewhat difficult to deal with) and even when not using it on a Patron, it's an Execute activator, it lets you finish something off with your weapon (pretty huge with the loss of Death's Bite), and many more. The possibilities are endless. I haven't seen many people talk about this card but I think it's fantastic in the right deck.
I wish Valeera had tentacles for arms
I actually think Blood Warriors fits best in Control Warrior. I'm fairly sure any CW player would want 4 Armorsmith's in their deck and this card is the only way that is possible.
I think Corrupted Seer is getting almost no love. I think he will have a place outside of Murloc decks.
Just on Steward of Darkshire, I think it was mentioned in a Blue post a while back that it'll work with Twilight Drake, which also happens to be on curve. So maybe not THAT disappointing.
That's a pretty cool combo, but how many 1-health minions and dragons can you fit in a deck together? Twilight Drake has mild anti-synergy with 1-drops, and there are very few 1-health guys more expensive than that.