I was expecting so much from this card. The art is amazing, the lore behind it is amazing, but the card is garbage. People coming up with gimmicks and reasons why this'll be played: No, it won't. And for those who don't understand basic game mechanics: battlecries won't trigger. This card is terrible and won't see play, mark my words.
I was expecting so much from this card. The art is amazing, the lore behind it is amazing, but the card is garbage. People coming up with gimmicks and reasons why this'll be played: No, it won't. And for those who don't understand basic game mechanics: battlecries won't trigger. This card is terrible and won't see play, mark my words.
Unless one of the 100 still-unrevealed cards combos well with it.
Thinking about it, this is sort of the Old God of Arena. Though it won't come up much, it seems like playing this in arena will outright win you the game.
I was expecting so much from this card. The art is amazing, the lore behind it is amazing, but the card is garbage. People coming up with gimmicks and reasons why this'll be played: No, it won't. And for those who don't understand basic game mechanics: battlecries won't trigger. This card is terrible and won't see play, mark my words.
Unless one of the 100 still-unrevealed cards combos well with it.
People keep saying this whenever a card gets released, but if a card is bad it's simply bad. This card is lategame and lategame decks don't want this effect.
I think even unbuffed cthun would be good in an astral deck. So would this. I'm imagining an astral overhaul with all of these new legendaries. Will it make it t1? Doubtful, but definitely something to include.
Why would I even to play this instead of N'Zoth...?
N'Zoth doesn't bring me quicker to fatigue, it will give me bunch of powerful deathrattle minions. 10/10 body? Not a big deal if the enemy has an answer for it.
Why would I even to play this instead of N'Zoth...?
N'Zoth doesn't bring me quicker to fatigue, it will give me bunch of powerful deathrattle minions. 10/10 body? Not a big deal if the enemy has an answer for it.
Because there are no significant Deathrattles in your deck is the short answer.
N'Zoth is definitely a much stronger card in Wild but in the upcoming Standard format as we see it now there aren't many Deathrattles worth running. Basically all the good ones were in Naxx and GvG and so far we haven't really seen anything in WoG that would jump out as an incredibly powerful deathrattle.
So looking at the amount of deathrattle cards that are both legal in standard and would actually see play in a control oriented deck which N'Zoth would obviously require you are left with like two or three neutrals and a bunch of class specific cards and that is counting very generiously here.
Sylvanas Windrunner is probably the best deathrattle card and so was Cairne Bloodhoof before Naxx, so no, there definitely ARE some cards worth running in the basic set. Not to mention we haven't seen all the new cards of the new set and there might be some good deathrattle card incoming!
Yeah I don't see why I'd ever play Yshaarj over N'zoth. Nor do I get why people say that there are no good DRs in Standard. If all I summon from N'zoth is Cairne, Sylvanas, Tirion and a couple of smaller DR cards then that probably wins me the game outright.
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Yeah I don't see why I'd ever play Yshaarj over N'zoth. Nor do I get why people say that there are no good DRs in Standard. If all I summon from N'zoth is Cairne, Sylvanas, Tirion and a couple of smaller DR cards then that probably wins me the game outright.
I was expecting so much from this card. The art is amazing, the lore behind it is amazing, but the card is garbage. People coming up with gimmicks and reasons why this'll be played: No, it won't. And for those who don't understand basic game mechanics: battlecries won't trigger. This card is terrible and won't see play, mark my words.
Unless one of the 100 still-unrevealed cards combos well with it.
People keep saying this whenever a card gets released, but if a card is bad it's simply bad. This card is lategame and lategame decks don't want this effect.
Late game decks don't want big lategame minions on board? Now granted I don't think this is the most efficient way to do that aside from Ramp Druid who has ways to handle a significant portion of large minions, but I'm pretty sure saying this is an effect universally unusable by lategame decks is incorrect.
I think so far this is the most fun Old God, and honestly if a Resurrect Priest running a significant portion of its control front end as spells becomes plausible I think it would make for an interesting win condition. Analyzing a card in the context of the current meta and deck lists being run is a poor decision, which is why people do have a point when they say "we have most of the set left to see".
People get caught up on the loss of Battlecries, but depending on BGH's new incarnation and the loss of Lightbomb (one reason Varian was bad) having even one big guy and a smaller guy is going to be worth the 10-mana cost with an effect that will snowball a win if left unchecked.
If you can close a game out by creating a massive board (which I would argue is the goal of this card), Fatigue is a pretty irrelevant. Fel Reaver operated under a similar premise and saw a good amount of play, it just did it earlier and at a significantly more punishing cost.
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the reason people saying that this card is bad is because there is a shitbag of removal in this game. Any lategame minion that provides only heavy body will make people complain. Even if it was 20/20 i bet this wouldn't be widely used (yes the amount of removal already hit that absurd level). The BGH + shit overload of class removal makes almost any vanila minion bad. Pulling out another body without battlecry or endofturn effect MAYBE will leave you with something to attack with by the start of your turn but nothing spectacular.
This game sports "even a single point of damage could mean difference between victory and defeat" slogan appearing somewhere in tutorial missions. If that was true the body stats would truly be a huge deal (which is the real case in arena). But the amount of removal both AOE and single targeted is just outfuckingrageous. And no, the body stats doesn't decide anything because of that.
Blizzard should stop adding more removal with each new expansion, because this is going out of control. Soon people will play only minions with charge, deathrattle like summon a kopy of this minion (kappa, yet sad truth), or some endofturn effect like Rag or at least Ysera.... Just retarded dude wtf.
Thinking about this in an Ancestor's Call Shaman deck. Or with Alarm-O-Bot. Then he summons a free Ragnaros or Kel'Thuzzad or Ysera. Varian can't do that.
People are just so accustomed to thinking of big cards with no immediate effect as bad -- and honestly, they have been up until now.
However, those are exactly the cards you would want to put into a Y'Shaarj deck, so many players are having trouble seeing how to build such a thing. There's this big, collective blind spot where the community tends to ignore the cards that have been deemed "unplayable."
It's like a stuffy old aunt who won't acknowledge the black sheep distant cousin: "We don't talk about him."
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People are just so accustomed to thinking of big cards with no immediate effect as bad -- and honestly, they have been up until now.
However, those are exactly the cards you would want to put into a Y'Shaarj deck, so many players are having trouble seeing how to build such a thing. There's this big, collective blind spot where the community tends to ignore the cards that have been deemed "unplayable."
It's like a stuffy old aunt who won't acknowledge the black sheep distant cousin: "We don't talk about him."
Thinking about this in an Ancestor's Call Shaman deck. Or with Alarm-O-Bot. Then he summons a free Ragnaros or Kel'Thuzzad or Ysera. Varian can't do that.
... What? Varian can totally do that, if they're on the top of his deck.
Thinking about this in an Ancestor's Call Shaman deck. Or with Alarm-O-Bot. Then he summons a free Ragnaros or Kel'Thuzzad or Ysera. Varian can't do that.
... What? Varian can totally do that, if they're on the top of his deck.
Thinking about this in an Ancestor's Call Shaman deck. Or with Alarm-O-Bot. Then he summons a free Ragnaros or Kel'Thuzzad or Ysera. Varian can't do that.
... What? Varian can totally do that, if they're on the top of his deck.
No, Varian can't. He's a Warrior card, and there's no real way to cheat him out. You need to spend 10 mana, and you're already in the late game. A shaman can Coin+Ancestor's Call on turn 3, get Y'Shaarj and some other giant minion.
I was expecting so much from this card. The art is amazing, the lore behind it is amazing, but the card is garbage. People coming up with gimmicks and reasons why this'll be played: No, it won't. And for those who don't understand basic game mechanics: battlecries won't trigger. This card is terrible and won't see play, mark my words.
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Thinking about it, this is sort of the Old God of Arena. Though it won't come up much, it seems like playing this in arena will outright win you the game.
Fuck cubelock
Not sure if anyone notice but this card do resembles abit like the alien predator. XD
Seems like a prime Elise starseeker drop if you ask me
I think even unbuffed cthun would be good in an astral deck. So would this. I'm imagining an astral overhaul with all of these new legendaries. Will it make it t1? Doubtful, but definitely something to include.
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Why would I even to play this instead of N'Zoth...?
N'Zoth doesn't bring me quicker to fatigue, it will give me bunch of powerful deathrattle minions. 10/10 body? Not a big deal if the enemy has an answer for it.
The only perk of Y'Shaarj, Rage Unbound is that with the upcoming nerf of BGH, it might stays on board for more than just 1 turn.
Yeah I don't see why I'd ever play Yshaarj over N'zoth. Nor do I get why people say that there are no good DRs in Standard. If all I summon from N'zoth is Cairne, Sylvanas, Tirion and a couple of smaller DR cards then that probably wins me the game outright.
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the reason people saying that this card is bad is because there is a shitbag of removal in this game. Any lategame minion that provides only heavy body will make people complain. Even if it was 20/20 i bet this wouldn't be widely used (yes the amount of removal already hit that absurd level). The BGH + shit overload of class removal makes almost any vanila minion bad. Pulling out another body without battlecry or endofturn effect MAYBE will leave you with something to attack with by the start of your turn but nothing spectacular.
This game sports "even a single point of damage could mean difference between victory and defeat" slogan appearing somewhere in tutorial missions. If that was true the body stats would truly be a huge deal (which is the real case in arena). But the amount of removal both AOE and single targeted is just outfuckingrageous. And no, the body stats doesn't decide anything because of that.
Blizzard should stop adding more removal with each new expansion, because this is going out of control. Soon people will play only minions with charge, deathrattle like summon a kopy of this minion (kappa, yet sad truth), or some endofturn effect like Rag or at least Ysera.... Just retarded dude wtf.
What mass removal works on a 10/10 + some other minion? Brawl, I guess?
Thinking about this in an Ancestor's Call Shaman deck. Or with Alarm-O-Bot. Then he summons a free Ragnaros or Kel'Thuzzad or Ysera. Varian can't do that.
People are just so accustomed to thinking of big cards with no immediate effect as bad -- and honestly, they have been up until now.
However, those are exactly the cards you would want to put into a Y'Shaarj deck, so many players are having trouble seeing how to build such a thing. There's this big, collective blind spot where the community tends to ignore the cards that have been deemed "unplayable."
It's like a stuffy old aunt who won't acknowledge the black sheep distant cousin: "We don't talk about him."
"Why, you never expected justice from a company, did you? They have neither a soul to lose nor a body to kick." -- Lady Saba Holland
Fuck cubelock