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The sheer number of garbage Legendary cards in this coming expansion is staggering.

People are going to have a very very bad reaction after they turn over their orange cards.

 Pretty sure the Legendaries you feel are NOT garbage are the OP ones that are in most decks. So to make you happy, Blizz should make Dr. Doom 2.0, Tirion 2.0 and alexstrasza 2.0.

Oh look! we already got Ragnaros 2.0 and it's awesome! But you probably hate it... QQ

I actually LOVE Ragnaros, Lightlord. Which is odd seeing as how Paladin is my least favorite class.

I merely said "Sheer Number". Meaning that there is quite a lot of them.

Maybe Blizzard is just trying to rip the band-aid off. Giving us previews of all the sub-par to terrible Legendaries first.

Then pulling out the actual good Legendaries when the set is reveled.

 The only Legendary that's been revealed so far that I think *might be* "garbage" is the Boggeymonster or whatever the hell it's called. Even then maybe not actual garbage. For sure some Legendaries will feel better or more powerful then others, but that doesn't mean the ones who aren't at the top of the list are auto-trash.

Just bothers me to see the "sheer number" of small-minded people on these boards when a new card is revealed.

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This card is pretty good, a 5/5 for 6 is great trades well and is a threat vs control. 

The thing is you need to have some good synergy with bananas. They could be the deviate and rotten ones also, 

But is there a card that gets a shit load of value from 1 mana spells? Something that can get you board presents to make up for the bad tempo of this card flamewaker is one of the only ones.

Neutral Ancient of Lore!

Card is quality! Good enough to see play over Emperor or Sylvanas? Not sure.

Another boring card constructed upon an already boring card. Well, normal Mukla actually works in some funny scenarios, this one doesn't. It's just a polar opposite of the effect, cool I guess.

I think I'd rather go straight to interesting cards, without the next one being "Archwizard Antonidas: Whenever you cast Fireball, add a random spell to your hand". Or "Noobphet Velen: Halves the damage and healing of your spells and hero power".

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Archmage Antonidas approves.

 As i said, Toshley is a card and no one runs it.

Current meta=/= standard meta

 There is no situation where you'd realistically want to play this card. 

Rhonin is a better 1 mana token generator for mages and Rogues literally just got a cheaper and better 1 mana generator. No other class would even consider running this it has terrible stats and a terrible effect. 

Just because the meta will be slower (Which isn't even guaranteed) doesn't mean we can ignore basic card flaws. 

 Well maybe you want to run more of those in the same deck.. or you want more immediate spell?

rhonin is quite slow it's more impactful but it costs 2 more mana and it needs to die for it to give you the spells this cards give you the spells right away so that's something over Rhonin

in the current value system playing more than a 5/5 isn't neccessary as most minions in the meta have maximum 5 hp there are a lot of 5/5 at 6 mana so the tempo loss isn't that terrible it can still trade with Azure Drake.

I think this card isn't terrible.. it has his merits though.. you can play it in mage to fuel antonidas and flamewakers

 

 Look at the other 6 mana 5/5s your comparing this to. Then remember the 6 mana slot is already fairly busy for rogues. 

This is pretty much a trap card. People see these synergies but don't realize what they give up to get them.

Will play it in my lock and load hunter for sure. If you can get rotten bananas its crazy synergy with hunters mark. Like it a lot.

Infest & Ball of Spiders buff

Infest is still bad but this buffs them.

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Archmage Antonidas approves.

 As i said, Toshley is a card and no one runs it.

Current meta=/= standard meta

 There is no situation where you'd realistically want to play this card. 

Rhonin is a better 1 mana token generator for mages and Rogues literally just got a cheaper and better 1 mana generator. No other class would even consider running this it has terrible stats and a terrible effect. 

Just because the meta will be slower (Which isn't even guaranteed) doesn't mean we can ignore basic card flaws. 

Mukla, Tyrant of the Vale not only costs 2 less but also gives you the spells immediately whereas with Rhonin you might not get the Arcane Missiles for an additional turn or two after you play him. They're both situationally better and worse to one another.

Toshley saw play for a decent amount of time after GVG came out before everyone realized how broken and refined aggro decks could be with all the new cards. I wouldn't immediately dismiss this card.

 You can't spam the spells immediately unless you wait till 8 mana anyway. Not to mention Rhonin can at least bait out silences / is an actual threat on its own. You play Mukla and its likely going to die without doing much just due to its poor stats on t6.

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Too expensive to see any play tbh; a worse Toshley indeed :/

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 Wut? 6 mana 5/5 is a mediocre body (at best) and the 3 currently used are used because their very good effect. 2 bananas isn't that great.

Toshley's not so great.

Remember, 2 of the spare parts are Armor Plating andWhirling Blades. Time Rewinder is situational too. Same with Emergency Coolant.

Bananas is better than 4 out of 5 spare parts. Not every spare part is Finicky Cloakfield

I'm OK with bad/mediocre/extremely niche cards a la Majordomo Executus because stuff like that is fun/exciting/interesting/etc. But this? This, along with the other corrupted cards we've seen so far are amazingly bland. Many who compete in the Weekly Design Competition would be able to come up with something more interesting! And that sucks, because the persons creating these boring cards are actually paid. On paper corrupted cards sounds interesting, but they have been poorly made. A fix to this card that would make it somewhat interesting would be 3 mana 5/5 "Battlecry: Add 2 Bananas to your deck". You would get a good body for the cost but potentially screw up future draws. Just a quick idea I had, but if I were given this art and namn and some time I could probably make it alot more interesting. Another sad part is that new art is being made for stuff like this, it's such a waste...

I'm so disappointed in Blizzard's HS team, some change in the staff would probably do the game well...

Tempo mage says hello!

All of these comparisons with Toshley are pointless.

Toshley, a GvG card, was not run in a GvG environment because most of the cards in that environment are OP.

You don't know if Toshley would be played in a Standard environment because it has never existed in that environment (and never will).

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I'm OK with bad/mediocre/extremely niche cards a la Majordomo Executus because stuff like that is fun/exciting/interesting/etc. But this? This, along with the other corrupted cards we've seen so far are amazingly bland. Many who compete in the Weekly Design Competition would be able to come up with something more interesting! And that sucks, because the persons creating these boring cards are actually paid. On paper corrupted cards sounds interesting, but they have been poorly made. A fix to this card that would make it somewhat interesting would be 3 mana 5/5 "Battlecry: Add 2 Bananas to your deck". You would get a good body for the cost but potentially screw up future draws. Just a quick idea I had, but if I were given this art and namn and some time I could probably make it alot more interesting. Another sad part is that new art is being made for stuff like this, it's such a waste...

I'm so disappointed in Blizzard's HS team, some change in the staff would probably do the game well...

 

unless you can squeeze a lot of value out of the bananas like with Djinni, Gadgetzan, Flamewaker, etc. this is just bad.  And even then I would say it's still pretty weak.

400 dust.

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So normal Mukkla: 3 Mana, give your opponent the 2 bananas

This Mukkla: 6 mana give yourself the 2 bananas.

The 2 bananas are worth 3 mana.

Every banana is worth 1,5 mana.

Hmm, seems ok, could be better;)

The card is ok, will slot into specific decks that make use of cheap spells.

The card art though, holy crap, so dissapointed with the card art in the expansion so far. 'Darker theme' like the darker theme to batman vs superman, total balls.