The sheer number of garbage Legendary cards in this coming expansion is staggering.
People are going to have a very very bad reaction after they turn over their orange cards.
Could you elaborate? There are 9 legendaries revealed so far and only 2 of them can be called garbage imo. Unfortunately Mukla belongs in that category.
So many people defending the card just by fear of feeling stupid if it sees play.
Spoiler: this is trash, it won't see any constructed play nor arena play.
The Antonidas "combo" is a joke. Rhonin is by far better than this card and still see few plays (and i don't even talk aboutToshley or Grand Crusader since everybody did)
Toshley is an almost include it's just the meta is too insane for such card to be played .. when your opponent plays a card that is worth 11 mana you can't afford to play this card.. but when most crazy tempo cards rotate such card can be played and expected to be ok..
The card is considerably under-budget, but I can see potential in Turtle Rogue, with double Auctioneer and double Teacher. I doubt it though, as Rogue decks have very few free slots and certainly dont have space for marginally positive cards.
how is it inferior to Toshley? +1/+1 is better than +1 attack or +1 health sure you can get the stealth part or the other situational ones but if any this is a more consistent Toshley and it is a beast i dont think it is inferior its kinda the same thing
The sheer number of garbage Legendary cards in this coming expansion is staggering.
People are going to have a very very bad reaction after they turn over their orange cards.
Pretty sure the Legendaries you feel are NOT garbage are the OP ones that are in most decks. So to make you happy, Blizz should make Dr. Doom 2.0, Tirion 2.0 and alexstrasza 2.0.
Oh look! we already got Ragnaros 2.0 and it's awesome! But you probably hate it... QQ
I actually LOVE Ragnaros, Lightlord. Which is odd seeing as how Paladin is my least favorite class.
I merely said "Sheer Number". Meaning that there is quite a lot of them.
Maybe Blizzard is just trying to rip the band-aid off. Giving us previews of all the sub-par to terrible Legendaries first.
Then pulling out the actual good Legendaries when the set is reveled.
For those that say tempo mage or miracle rogue, Toshley is a 6 mana 5/7 with same effect (pretty much) and don't see any play despite the lack of good 6 drops (except paladin). What make you think this card will get played instead?
It won't. However, you need to look at the possible uses for a card.
It's honestly just fodder to put into a Hunter's random beast pool.
There is no situation where you'd realistically want to play this card.
Rhonin is a better 1 mana token generator for mages and Rogues literally just got a cheaper and better 1 mana generator. No other class would even consider running this it has terrible stats and a terrible effect.
Just because the meta will be slower (Which isn't even guaranteed) doesn't mean we can ignore basic card flaws.
Mukla, Tyrant of the Vale not only costs 2 less but also gives you the spells immediately whereas with Rhonin you might not get the Arcane Missiles for an additional turn or two after you play him. They're both situationally better and worse to one another.
Toshley saw play for a decent amount of time after GVG came out before everyone realized how broken and refined aggro decks could be with all the new cards. I wouldn't immediately dismiss this card.
This card is pretty good, a 5/5 for 6 is great trades well and is a threat vs control.
The thing is you need to have some good synergy with bananas. They could be the deviate and rotten ones also,
But is there a card that gets a shit load of value from 1 mana spells? Something that can get you board presents to make up for the bad tempo of this card flamewaker is one of the only ones.
There is no situation where you'd realistically want to play this card.
Rhonin is a better 1 mana token generator for mages and Rogues literally just got a cheaper and better 1 mana generator. No other class would even consider running this it has terrible stats and a terrible effect.
Just because the meta will be slower (Which isn't even guaranteed) doesn't mean we can ignore basic card flaws.
Well maybe you want to run more of those in the same deck.. or you want more immediate spell?
rhonin is quite slow it's more impactful but it costs 2 more mana and it needs to die for it to give you the spells this cards give you the spells right away so that's something over Rhonin
in the current value system playing more than a 5/5 isn't neccessary as most minions in the meta have maximum 5 hp there are a lot of 5/5 at 6 mana so the tempo loss isn't that terrible it can still trade with Azure Drake.
I think this card isn't terrible.. it has his merits though.. you can play it in mage to fuel antonidas and flamewakers
The sheer number of garbage Legendary cards in this coming expansion is staggering.
People are going to have a very very bad reaction after they turn over their orange cards.
Pretty sure the Legendaries you feel are NOT garbage are the OP ones that are in most decks. So to make you happy, Blizz should make Dr. Doom 2.0, Tirion 2.0 and alexstrasza 2.0.
Oh look! we already got Ragnaros 2.0 and it's awesome! But you probably hate it... QQ
I actually LOVE Ragnaros, Lightlord. Which is odd seeing as how Paladin is my least favorite class.
I merely said "Sheer Number". Meaning that there is quite a lot of them.
Maybe Blizzard is just trying to rip the band-aid off. Giving us previews of all the sub-par to terrible Legendaries first.
Then pulling out the actual good Legendaries when the set is reveled.
The only Legendary that's been revealed so far that I think *might be* "garbage" is the Boggeymonster or whatever the hell it's called. Even then maybe not actual garbage. For sure some Legendaries will feel better or more powerful then others, but that doesn't mean the ones who aren't at the top of the list are auto-trash.
Just bothers me to see the "sheer number" of small-minded people on these boards when a new card is revealed.
Sounds like a Mage version of Shieldmaiden
Archmage Antonidas approves.
I dont know how good/bad (probably number 2) it is going to be, i just dislike the lack of creativity.
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So many people defending the card just by fear of feeling stupid if it sees play.
Spoiler: this is trash, it won't see any constructed play nor arena play.
The Antonidas "combo" is a joke.
Rhonin is by far better than this card and still see few plays (and i don't even talk aboutToshley or Grand Crusader since everybody did)
WTF is wrong with this art? Seriously blozzard?
The only way it can work is in some kind of mid-late game Beast-Hunter deck imo.
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Well seen!
Beast + two small spells for Lock and Load, Wild Pyromancer... Could be interesting in slow hunter, no?
The card is considerably under-budget, but I can see potential in Turtle Rogue, with double Auctioneer and double Teacher. I doubt it though, as Rogue decks have very few free slots and certainly dont have space for marginally positive cards.
how is it inferior to Toshley? +1/+1 is better than +1 attack or +1 health sure you can get the stealth part or the other situational ones but if any this is a more consistent Toshley and it is a beast i dont think it is inferior its kinda the same thing
5.5/10
not bad, can be good in tempo mage, dragon/djin priest and rogue
If gaining two bananas is such a useless, terrible effect as so many people are claiming, why don't more people play King Mukla?
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This card is pretty good, a 5/5 for 6 is great trades well and is a threat vs control.
The thing is you need to have some good synergy with bananas. They could be the deviate and rotten ones also,
But is there a card that gets a shit load of value from 1 mana spells? Something that can get you board presents to make up for the bad tempo of this card flamewaker is one of the only ones.
Pathetic Toshley replacement (who was never used very much anyway!) - it's not power creep, it's power suck!