Secrets are like the essence of the Mage not talking about only Freeze Mage, I mean it is not punishing Paladin but rather more Mage here. I mean paladins still have that one turn kill murloc deck. Very sad to see this card. . . . . . ..
Since the mad scientist is exiting from meta( at least in standard mode in future), there will not be so many deck's that emphasise secrets.So I don't see this card much involved in future standard mode, but I might be wrong since we don't have whole set of cards of new expansion atm.The situation where this card shines is wild mode, and in my opinion its very much needed to future wild mode.For standard, it would mostly be a tech card vs mage, if the class is really dominating meta. Great card design if you ask me.
i dont think this card will kill freeze mage, kezan didn't, it doesnt really matters if its one or two secrects what matters is that you get the ice block out of the way and you can do that with kezan. on the wild side this card wil destroy secret paladin very good against hunters too much better body than kezan.
Since the mad scientist is exiting from meta( at least in standard mode in future), there will not be so many deck's that emphasise secrets.So I don't see this card much involved in future standard mode, but I might be wrong since we don't have whole set of cards of new expansion atm.The situation where this card shines is wild mode, and in my opinion its very much needed to future wild mode.For standard, it would mostly be a tech card vs mage, if the class is really dominating meta. Great card design if you ask me.
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I like this card. Even though I don't think many people will use it, just the card existing will make sure that the meta never gets flooded by Secret Paladin or Freeze Mage.
Eater of Secrets is Kezan Mystic replacement, and it's better. Good tech card for Paladin, Mage and Hunter punishment.
Better against Secret Paladin, but definitely worse against Mage and Hunter.
No, it's still good. It's 3/5 even when played against 1 secret. So it gives you a good tempo swing anyway. Only bad against not-secret classes, but it's how tech cards work.
"Still good" - yep, I agree.
"Eater of Secrets is Kezan Mystic replacement, and it's better" - Against Secret Pally, yes but against other secret classes not at all. Primarily because stealing a secret is considerably better than destroying one. It's actually a huge tempo swing.
With no Mad Scientist, secrets are going to be extinct anyway.
Just a wild theory, but maybe there's a game mode that's not called Standard?
And in that game mode there is a card called Kezan mystic which counters Freeze Mage / Hunter better. This card does nothing to stop why Secret Paladin is good. Same reason Flare isn't considered a counter to MC
Wait what? Flare absolutely counters MC. It turns their entire last turn into just putting down a body, whereas you still get 4+ mana, after drawing a card and destroying every one of their secrets, to obtain momentum.
ok i must admit that im impressed.... seems like both formats will be fun to play again :). druid combo nerfed. now this card counters secret paladin and freeze mage hard :). somehow wild seems like an interesting format lol, i mean yeah thres no way im dusting my wild cards now. it seems that we were wrong and they actually want both formats to be somewhat balanced :). to those who say that this doesnt counter secret paladin dont make me laugh..... you play 6 mana for mc putting a 6/6 on board and 4-5 secrets your opponent plays this next turn for 4 mana destroying all your secrets and gets +4/4 or +5/5 meaning he will have an 6/8 or a 7/9 on the board....... plus the 2 remaining mana. this is not like flare this is actualy a hard counter.
I don't even think this will be that strong tbh. I mean it gives Flare to all classes but it still doesn't deal with the early game board or the 6/6 which was why Flare was never considered a good counter.
People already forgetting Secret Paladin is already dead in standard.
You are looking at this Card in a Vacuum. This Card is for taking the Value created by Secrets for +1/+1. This is disgusting against Paladin and Hunter, and is OK versus Mage. While Kezan Mystic is in reverse.
This a Tech-Card in the same vein as Big Game Hunter as in it feels abysmal playing this when there's nothing to play this against.
Secrets are like the essence of the Mage not talking about only Freeze Mage, I mean it is not punishing Paladin but rather more Mage here. I mean paladins still have that one turn kill murloc deck. Very sad to see this card. . . . . . ..
Actually, paladins DON'T have that one turn kill murloc deck anymore, because the reward cards (aka Old Murkeye) aren't going to be in standard.
Also, why is everyone saying Flare is not a good enough counter for secret paladin? I run flare against it and it's pretty much GG every time I cast it.
Why do people Never think farther than what the minion-Text sais? This Is a techcard. Unless we re in a very very secretheavy meta only controledecks will Play this card, because only controledecks Play techcards. Does a freezemage care about iceblock vs a controledeck? No he does not. He only Cares about Not running out of steam. So does this card somehow Affect freezemage? No it does Not.
With no Mad Scientist, secrets are going to be extinct anyway.
Just a wild theory, but maybe there's a game mode that's not called Standard?
And in that game mode there is a card called Kezan mystic which counters Freeze Mage / Hunter better. This card does nothing to stop why Secret Paladin is good. Same reason Flare isn't considered a counter to MC
Sure it does. Secret Paladin is good because the secrets make an unbreakable board on top of a huge body. This breaks their secrets and makes a huger body.
And it doesn't have to be better than Kezan, just "good enough" as a tech choice. Winning by a little bit still wins.
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This card feels slow unless you eat at least 2 secrets.
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Secrets are like the essence of the Mage not talking about only Freeze Mage, I mean it is not punishing Paladin but rather more Mage here. I mean paladins still have that one turn kill murloc deck. Very sad to see this card. . . . . . ..
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Since the mad scientist is exiting from meta( at least in standard mode in future), there will not be so many deck's that emphasise secrets.So I don't see this card much involved in future standard mode, but I might be wrong since we don't have whole set of cards of new expansion atm.The situation where this card shines is wild mode, and in my opinion its very much needed to future wild mode.For standard, it would mostly be a tech card vs mage, if the class is really dominating meta. Great card design if you ask me.
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i dont think this card will kill freeze mage, kezan didn't, it doesnt really matters if its one or two secrects what matters is that you get the ice block out of the way and you can do that with kezan. on the wild side this card wil destroy secret paladin very good against hunters too much better body than kezan.
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I like this card. Even though I don't think many people will use it, just the card existing will make sure that the meta never gets flooded by Secret Paladin or Freeze Mage.
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ok i must admit that im impressed.... seems like both formats will be fun to play again :). druid combo nerfed. now this card counters secret paladin and freeze mage hard :). somehow wild seems like an interesting format lol, i mean yeah thres no way im dusting my wild cards now. it seems that we were wrong and they actually want both formats to be somewhat balanced :). to those who say that this doesnt counter secret paladin dont make me laugh..... you play 6 mana for mc putting a 6/6 on board and 4-5 secrets your opponent plays this next turn for 4 mana destroying all your secrets and gets +4/4 or +5/5 meaning he will have an 6/8 or a 7/9 on the board....... plus the 2 remaining mana. this is not like flare this is actualy a hard counter.
This a Tech-Card in the same vein as Big Game Hunter as in it feels abysmal playing this when there's nothing to play this against.
About time.. This card deserved a golden card when it released! ;)
Why do people Never think farther than what the minion-Text sais? This Is a techcard. Unless we re in a very very secretheavy meta only controledecks will Play this card, because only controledecks Play techcards. Does a freezemage care about iceblock vs a controledeck? No he does not. He only Cares about Not running out of steam. So does this card somehow Affect freezemage? No it does Not.
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Even if this card destroyer only one secret,is still very good!
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