What card should i craft between Lich king and ragnaros for my wild even shaman deck? I'm a F2P player so i can't afford to craft the 2 or maybe after dusting some useless legendaries in the future.
Lich king adds a lot of value in the late game thanks the DK cards however ragnaros is very agressive.
Lich King is the standard option and is played in more other decks. I think the problem with Rag is that it is the more agressive option but has anti-synergy with the windfury package.
That being said, I have climbed to rank 5 with a Rag build the last few seasons because I like the card. It gives some nice extra burst, and if he is a bad play on turn 8, you probably lost anyway.
I'm currently playing this budget version of even shaman : https://twitter.com/neon31HS/status/1087377850334932992 Even without flametongue totem, it's still insane, i'm nearly at the legend rank. I replaced them with one hex and one dire wolf alpha. I love playing this deck, it's so cheap but so strong. I don't mind adding another legendary to make it better in the late game. For a F2P player, i think, its the best deck to craft in order to reach rank 5 every season to earn the golden epic.
Like others said, it's better to wait and see how strong Even Shaman remains after the nerfs.
I think the LK is a better option, because Rag (although he's a pretty good finisher in general) can be really weak against board flooding decks. And if those become popular, you will have a lot of trouble hitting the right targets.
If it were me I'd hold off to see if the deck's still viable after the flametongue totem nerf. No point crafting a card solely for an archetype that turns out to be dead.
Both are played in big priest and I can't see even better neutral 8-drops ever being printed...
No, this is painfully poor advice. Wild Even Shaman is still an extremely easy-to-play and powerful deck. A nerf to the zero mana 5/5 taunt would have been much more impactful than the Flametongue nerf.
The relevant question isn’t whether Wild Even Shaman is “still viable,” it’s do I want to play Wild Even Shaman? If yes, then what 2-drop should I slot into my Even Shaman deck now? The deck is easily still tier 1, or at worst, top of tier 2.
Also, Lich King and Rag aren’t used “solely” for any particular deck archetype. Both cards can be, and have been, slotted into many different types of decks, so even if Wild Even Shaman turned out to be “dead” (in some bizarre parrellel universe), crafting Lich King or Rag would probably still be dust well spent.
I would craft lich king, because it is better outside of even shaman, but if you are only crafting for even shaman, then ragnaros
Yes, i will use it for even shaman, i'm a new player so i don't have enough dust to craft another deck. First, lets optimize this deck. I should craft ragnaros then but can i ask you why do you think he's better?
I would craft lich king, because it is better outside of even shaman, but if you are only crafting for even shaman, then ragnaros
Yes, i will use it for even shaman, i'm a new player so i don't have enough dust to craft another deck. First, lets optimize this deck. I should craft ragnaros then but can i ask you why do you think he's better?
i think ragnaros is better because he provides immediate damage. and is a better finisher than lich king.
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i play both, since i don't have sea giants, i had a decent winrate with it, before the nerfs, now i am not sure, flame tongue was a big strike for the deck's early game
I would craft lich king, because it is better outside of even shaman, but if you are only crafting for even shaman, then ragnaros
Yes, i will use it for even shaman, i'm a new player so i don't have enough dust to craft another deck. First, lets optimize this deck. I should craft ragnaros then but can i ask you why do you think he's better?
i think ragnaros is better because he provides immediate damage. and is a better finisher than lich king.
I thought about that since even shaman is a lot more aggressive than its standard counterpart but because of the nerf, this deck became slower so it might be a good idea to build it more midrangey than aggro.
I finally crafted Ragnaros following your advice and he's insane. I'm at rank 3 with nearly 70% winrate trying to reach legend. He makes the deck a little bit stronger. I love it.
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Hi,
What card should i craft between Lich king and ragnaros for my wild even shaman deck?
I'm a F2P player so i can't afford to craft the 2 or maybe after dusting some useless legendaries in the future.
Lich king adds a lot of value in the late game thanks the DK cards however ragnaros is very agressive.
Personally I play rag in that deck, I think rag is better overall in that deck cause it's an agressive tempo deck.
Lich King is the standard option and is played in more other decks. I think the problem with Rag is that it is the more agressive option but has anti-synergy with the windfury package.
That being said, I have climbed to rank 5 with a Rag build the last few seasons because I like the card. It gives some nice extra burst, and if he is a bad play on turn 8, you probably lost anyway.
Editor of the Heartpwn Legendary Crafting Guide:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/card-discussion/205920-legendary-tier-list-crafting-guide
I'm currently playing this budget version of even shaman : https://twitter.com/neon31HS/status/1087377850334932992
Even without flametongue totem, it's still insane, i'm nearly at the legend rank. I replaced them with one hex and one dire wolf alpha.
I love playing this deck, it's so cheap but so strong. I don't mind adding another legendary to make it better in the late game.
For a F2P player, i think, its the best deck to craft in order to reach rank 5 every season to earn the golden epic.
Like others said, it's better to wait and see how strong Even Shaman remains after the nerfs.
I think the LK is a better option, because Rag (although he's a pretty good finisher in general) can be really weak against board flooding decks. And if those become popular, you will have a lot of trouble hitting the right targets.
Both are played in big priest and I can't see even better neutral 8-drops ever being printed...
Editor of the Heartpwn Legendary Crafting Guide:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/card-discussion/205920-legendary-tier-list-crafting-guide
well in general i would say The Lich King is a better craft. and just a better cards .
but for even shaman specifically, I would go with Ragnaros the Firelord.
I would craft lich king, because it is better outside of even shaman, but if you are only crafting for even shaman, then ragnaros
Rejoice, for even in death, you have become children of Thanos.
So the best choice should be Lich king instead of ragnaros since the deck lost its explosiveness because of the nerf?
No, this is painfully poor advice. Wild Even Shaman is still an extremely easy-to-play and powerful deck. A nerf to the zero mana 5/5 taunt would have been much more impactful than the Flametongue nerf.
The relevant question isn’t whether Wild Even Shaman is “still viable,” it’s do I want to play Wild Even Shaman? If yes, then what 2-drop should I slot into my Even Shaman deck now? The deck is easily still tier 1, or at worst, top of tier 2.
Also, Lich King and Rag aren’t used “solely” for any particular deck archetype. Both cards can be, and have been, slotted into many different types of decks, so even if Wild Even Shaman turned out to be “dead” (in some bizarre parrellel universe), crafting Lich King or Rag would probably still be dust well spent.
Yes, i will use it for even shaman, i'm a new player so i don't have enough dust to craft another deck. First, lets optimize this deck.
I should craft ragnaros then but can i ask you why do you think he's better?
I would hold off any crafting for now.
1) we are not sure of the power of Even Shaman
2) we don't even know what will rise in popularity after the nerfs
Both points concur to determining the best choice for topcurve in the deck.
Keep trying Even Shaman with the cards you have.
i think ragnaros is better because he provides immediate damage. and is a better finisher than lich king.
Rejoice, for even in death, you have become children of Thanos.
i play both, since i don't have sea giants, i had a decent winrate with it, before the nerfs, now i am not sure, flame tongue was a big strike for the deck's early game
big priest if u wanna cheat and win
Good advice, better wait a week or two to craft the right card since 1600 dust is quite hard to find.
I thought about that since even shaman is a lot more aggressive than its standard counterpart but because of the nerf, this deck became slower so it might be a good idea to build it more midrangey than aggro.
I finally crafted Ragnaros following your advice and he's insane. I'm at rank 3 with nearly 70% winrate trying to reach legend. He makes the deck a little bit stronger. I love it.