Blizzard should make a special stream lessons or youtube videos in which they explain the the only way hs should be played is with supa dupa 1000 IQ control/combo homebrewed decks and 30 minutes long match is a minimum time period that proves you're not braindead blah blah something etc.
It doesn't matter what the winrate of the deck is.
The problem is that it feels absolutely terrible to play against, in the same way people hated Freeze Mage and Quest Rogue.
We can't go nerfing decks every time some toddler wets its pants over it. We need a reason. QR was nerfed because it was over represented at High Legend Ladder, not because of the people whining about it.
Since none have been provided, Star Aligner Druid can stay. Cry babies can grow up. Or keep on crying.
Is this just another 'my crown is too heavy' thread? Getting to legend should be a painful, shitty experience or what is the point.
To.. have fun? I know having fun in games in 2018 is a foreign idea to some people. Everything is about grinding and spending money to not have to grind anymore, but believe or not; fun used to be the driving factor for playing games outside of gambling.
Is this just another 'my crown is too heavy' thread? Getting to legend should be a painful, shitty experience or what is the point.
To.. have fun? I know having fun in games in 2018 is a foreign idea to some people. Everything is about grinding and spending money to not have to grind anymore, but believe or not; fun used to be the driving factor for playing games outside of gambling.
You misunderstand. Plenty of fun to be had at ranks 25-10 or so. Use wacky meme decks, whatever. But when you want to be the best, to have your name on the leaderboard, 'fun' takes on a different definition and the experience becomes one of enduring adversity as your competition fails to endure and progress. I mean, there are people at wild legend, right? They don't all run Star Aligner, right?
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I love how every time Star Aligner bullshit is mentioned, smart-asses come and complain about the multiple threads and how Wild is supposed to have powerful decks. This is not a powerful deck, this is a broken deck, Naga Sea Witch tier, if a deck can kill me on turns 6 and 9 consistently it's not a healthy deck for the meta. As long as this dumb deck exists, people will make threads about it, because it's obviously a problem. Like Dane said, as soon as 7 giants hit the board on turn 5, it doesn't even feel like a game, this deck is no different.
You don't like Kingsbane/Mill because it's polarizing? Go to the salt thread.
You don't like Even Shaman because it's very fast? Go to the salt thread.
You don't like Big Priest because of the highroll potential? Go to the salt thread.
This deck is not even comparable, it's broken, it's not fun to play against, and it should be nuked. This is not a matter of salt, it's simply a bullshit deck that has potential to defeat anything except Mill decks consistently.
I don't consider wild a real competitive game mode. This is a perfect example of how there is always one or more decks that are unbalanced and ruin the game for everyone. It's a very difficult talk to balance wild with cards that keep rotating into it. I play wild some times at the lower ranks can be fun if you get bored of standard. Even if Blizzard does nerf this deck it will only be good until the next expansion. Only time will tell to see how Blizzard will resolve this.
There have been a dozen threads about this, quit making new ones
And there should be dozens more until Blizzard corrects this busted design.
One of the main reasons “Blizzard does not listen to the community” is that the community is so pathetically wrong most of the time. We have an excellent idea of how strong the deck is. There are decks with higher win rates. SAD is no more busted than them.
That is really all there is to it. Spam all the threads you want. Go on a hunger strike. Emulsify yourself.
I love how every time Star Aligner bullshit is mentioned, smart-asses come and complain about the multiple threads and how Wild is supposed to have powerful decks. This is not a powerful deck, this is a broken deck, Naga Sea Witch tier, if a deck can kill me on turns 6 and 9 consistently it's not a healthy deck for the meta. As long as this dumb deck exists, people will make threads about it, because it's obviously a problem. Like Dane said, as soon as 7 giants hit the board on turn 5, it doesn't even feel like a game, this deck is no different.
You don't like Kingsbane/Mill because it's polarizing? Go to the salt thread.
You don't like Even Shaman because it's very fast? Go to the salt thread.
You don't like Big Priest because of the highroll potential? Go to the salt thread.
This deck is not even comparable, it's broken, it's not fun to play against, and it should be nuked. This is not a matter of salt, it's simply a bullshit deck that has potential to defeat anything except Mill decks consistently.
Take your own advice. This drivel belongs in a salt thread.
The people defending Star Aligner Druid have never played a game in Wild mode. They've heard that Wild is busted, so if Star Aligner Druid is busted, it must be okay, just by theoretical logic.
There is a very reasonable argument that Juicy Psychmelon is not acceptable in Wild because it can cheaply pull entire combos enabled by Aviana. In most CCGs, "tutor" cards are much more restricted.
I love how every time Star Aligner bullshit is mentioned, smart-asses come and complain about the multiple threads and how Wild is supposed to have powerful decks. This is not a powerful deck, this is a broken deck, Naga Sea Witch tier, if a deck can kill me on turns 6 and 9 consistently it's not a healthy deck for the meta. As long as this dumb deck exists, people will make threads about it, because it's obviously a problem. Like Dane said, as soon as 7 giants hit the board on turn 5, it doesn't even feel like a game, this deck is no different.
You don't like Kingsbane/Mill because it's polarizing? Go to the salt thread.
You don't like Even Shaman because it's very fast? Go to the salt thread.
You don't like Big Priest because of the highroll potential? Go to the salt thread.
This deck is not even comparable, it's broken, it's not fun to play against, and it should be nuked. This is not a matter of salt, it's simply a bullshit deck that has potential to defeat anything except Mill decks consistently.
Take your own advice. This drivel belongs in a salt thread.
You sure convinced me that I'm wrong, take a hike edgelord
i can said that i counter it 2 times with big priest because i got barnes <Obsidian Statue or Obsidian Statue from 6 mana spell (if they dont kill me next turn or already) and after first shot ot star aligner, 3 statues kill aviana and the game is over for him you won.
Other win condition is aggro but you need good hand turn 5/6 kill or he kill you. Even shaman is good vs this because he can kill this deck fast so i think the win ratio is decent because they're many even shamans on wild.
Is this deck broken? YES
why this deck is brogen? Bad Desing ;/ Feels bad
nerf kun to 0 mana or aviana (i dont know how? minion cost 2 so they will need 2 innervate or innvervate + coin for kun i think that is good idea)
or whatever you want BLIZZARD but maybe lets start to watch what is the Fun Game, jest RNG is fun but not this. Cheers
-Wild is just a haven for all the busted/op cards in the game! Standard is just a haven for all the new busted/op cards in the game! Same argument from both sides of the game. This similarity here is the word "Busted" or "OP", though the idea of what cards those two words fit with is subjective to each player, there is probably cause for blizzard to look into cards if "there are a dozen thread already out there" about specific cards or interactions. -If you aren't having fun, if you have a problem with the game, if you don't think the way I do, if you don't enjoy me beating you with a "busted/OP" deck just quit the game! This type of mentality just shows how selfish people are. And just because I'm in the mood to be sardonic I think a great comparison would be; yup that mentality sounds about right for todays society, so while you are at it, if your boss makes you mad quit your job, if you don't like whats on tv get rid of your tv, if you don't like ads on your web browser cancel your internet subscription. If you don't like putting gas in your car just walk. That way of thinking just makes SO much sense. -Every deck has a counter, every deck can be beaten with the right tech, it's all rock/scissors/paper. Yes there are ways to beat any deck, yes there are tech cards and no this isn't a game of Jan/Ken/Pon it's hearthstone, any deck type can be beaten by any other deck type with the right setup and rng luck. If there is a card or combo that requires every other deck to put tech in because of it, that seems a reason to question the card or combo that is causing such an action. -Play the game for fun! Fun is also subjective. Some find it fun to oppress their opponents into futility, others want to find the most unique way to win, others yet are playing just to waste time. Fun is subjective if you aren't having fun, you complain. You may not come to the threads and complain, it may (like myself generally) be only to your computer screen. Others are more vocal and let everyone know about their problems, that is why these threads exist and it is their right. Just as much as it is your right to disagree.
So have fun however you see fit, and if you think complaining like this is not the way it should be then don't post here complaining about complainers. And I look forward to seeing you in game to either get stomped or to OTK you.
I remember the same posts pre-Naga nerf. ''Wild is wild, blah stats, HSreplay, blah... ''. It is funny how some people defend the deck they are playing (or by pure ignorance) and call other people cry babies and so on.
I really don't know what you all talking about. I am only wild player from the beginning. I've never faced Star Aliance druid at ranks 15-5. Thanks to this topic I've started play Druid myself, because i was tired to lose with kingsbane rogue and big priest with my beloved cotrol decks. Now i got my sweet revenge. WR about 70%, but it can be beatable. By shamans, when i got psychmelons at the bottom of the deck, etc...
WR is an important factor into nerf discussion, but not the only one. It cannot be.
Quest Rogue was nerfed the first time when it was t3 in the meta.
Nagalock was nerfed when it was already being contained by the meta.
Finally, "wild is wild" will simply make the mode die. Players will just leave it, the more brokennes it includes. To the point where it will be ridiculous to keep it open.
I reiterate my opinion that Wild should undergo periodical nerf maintenance, NOT killer nerfs but across several classes (all current t1 decks include one or more utterly broken and consistent synergy, some t2 as well), at least with yearly frequency.
One more bad thing about it, that has not been mentioned so far here is the meta influence of combodruid, especially in slow decks vs other slow decks. If I play my Bigspell Mage against Renolock the matchup is now less about skill, but who is luckier in pulling/destroying cards with Dirty Rat, Deathlord and Gnomeferatu and Demonic Project.
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I guess most of them are just allready Legend. ^^
It doesn't matter what the winrate of the deck is.
The problem is that it feels absolutely terrible to play against, in the same way people hated Freeze Mage and Quest Rogue.
We can't go nerfing decks every time some toddler wets its pants over it. We need a reason. QR was nerfed because it was over represented at High Legend Ladder, not because of the people whining about it.
Since none have been provided, Star Aligner Druid can stay. Cry babies can grow up. Or keep on crying.
Is this just another 'my crown is too heavy' thread? Getting to legend should be a painful, shitty experience or what is the point.
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
And there should be dozens more until Blizzard corrects this busted design.
The deck will be nerfed when the stars Aline but that might take an wile since T5 deck doesn't run Juicy Psychmelon .
To.. have fun? I know having fun in games in 2018 is a foreign idea to some people. Everything is about grinding and spending money to not have to grind anymore, but believe or not; fun used to be the driving factor for playing games outside of gambling.
You misunderstand. Plenty of fun to be had at ranks 25-10 or so. Use wacky meme decks, whatever. But when you want to be the best, to have your name on the leaderboard, 'fun' takes on a different definition and the experience becomes one of enduring adversity as your competition fails to endure and progress. I mean, there are people at wild legend, right? They don't all run Star Aligner, right?
Free to try and find a game, dealing cards for sorrow, cards for pain.
I love how every time Star Aligner bullshit is mentioned, smart-asses come and complain about the multiple threads and how Wild is supposed to have powerful decks. This is not a powerful deck, this is a broken deck, Naga Sea Witch tier, if a deck can kill me on turns 6 and 9 consistently it's not a healthy deck for the meta. As long as this dumb deck exists, people will make threads about it, because it's obviously a problem. Like Dane said, as soon as 7 giants hit the board on turn 5, it doesn't even feel like a game, this deck is no different.
You don't like Kingsbane/Mill because it's polarizing? Go to the salt thread.
You don't like Even Shaman because it's very fast? Go to the salt thread.
You don't like Big Priest because of the highroll potential? Go to the salt thread.
This deck is not even comparable, it's broken, it's not fun to play against, and it should be nuked. This is not a matter of salt, it's simply a bullshit deck that has potential to defeat anything except Mill decks consistently.
I don't consider wild a real competitive game mode. This is a perfect example of how there is always one or more decks that are unbalanced and ruin the game for everyone. It's a very difficult talk to balance wild with cards that keep rotating into it. I play wild some times at the lower ranks can be fun if you get bored of standard. Even if Blizzard does nerf this deck it will only be good until the next expansion. Only time will tell to see how Blizzard will resolve this.
One of the main reasons “Blizzard does not listen to the community” is that the community is so pathetically wrong most of the time. We have an excellent idea of how strong the deck is. There are decks with higher win rates. SAD is no more busted than them.
That is really all there is to it. Spam all the threads you want. Go on a hunger strike. Emulsify yourself.
NOBODY CARES. And rightly so.
Take your own advice. This drivel belongs in a salt thread.
The people defending Star Aligner Druid have never played a game in Wild mode. They've heard that Wild is busted, so if Star Aligner Druid is busted, it must be okay, just by theoretical logic.
There is a very reasonable argument that Juicy Psychmelon is not acceptable in Wild because it can cheaply pull entire combos enabled by Aviana. In most CCGs, "tutor" cards are much more restricted.
You sure convinced me that I'm wrong, take a hike edgelord
i can said that i counter it 2 times with big priest because i got barnes <Obsidian Statue or Obsidian Statue from 6 mana spell (if they dont kill me next turn or already) and after first shot ot star aligner, 3 statues kill aviana and the game is over for him you won.
Other win condition is aggro but you need good hand turn 5/6 kill or he kill you. Even shaman is good vs this because he can kill this deck fast so i think the win ratio is decent because they're many even shamans on wild.
Is this deck broken? YES
why this deck is brogen? Bad Desing ;/ Feels bad
nerf kun to 0 mana or aviana (i dont know how? minion cost 2 so they will need 2 innervate or innvervate + coin for kun i think that is good idea)
or whatever you want BLIZZARD but maybe lets start to watch what is the Fun Game, jest RNG is fun but not this. Cheers
-Wild is just a haven for all the busted/op cards in the game! Standard is just a haven for all the new busted/op cards in the game! Same argument from both sides of the game. This similarity here is the word "Busted" or "OP", though the idea of what cards those two words fit with is subjective to each player, there is probably cause for blizzard to look into cards if "there are a dozen thread already out there" about specific cards or interactions.
-If you aren't having fun, if you have a problem with the game, if you don't think the way I do, if you don't enjoy me beating you with a "busted/OP" deck just quit the game! This type of mentality just shows how selfish people are. And just because I'm in the mood to be sardonic I think a great comparison would be; yup that mentality sounds about right for todays society, so while you are at it, if your boss makes you mad quit your job, if you don't like whats on tv get rid of your tv, if you don't like ads on your web browser cancel your internet subscription. If you don't like putting gas in your car just walk. That way of thinking just makes SO much sense.
-Every deck has a counter, every deck can be beaten with the right tech, it's all rock/scissors/paper. Yes there are ways to beat any deck, yes there are tech cards and no this isn't a game of Jan/Ken/Pon it's hearthstone, any deck type can be beaten by any other deck type with the right setup and rng luck. If there is a card or combo that requires every other deck to put tech in because of it, that seems a reason to question the card or combo that is causing such an action.
-Play the game for fun! Fun is also subjective. Some find it fun to oppress their opponents into futility, others want to find the most unique way to win, others yet are playing just to waste time. Fun is subjective if you aren't having fun, you complain. You may not come to the threads and complain, it may (like myself generally) be only to your computer screen. Others are more vocal and let everyone know about their problems, that is why these threads exist and it is their right. Just as much as it is your right to disagree.
So have fun however you see fit, and if you think complaining like this is not the way it should be then don't post here complaining about complainers. And I look forward to seeing you in game to either get stomped or to OTK you.
Cute, ineffective, but cute.
I remember the same posts pre-Naga nerf. ''Wild is wild, blah stats, HSreplay, blah... ''. It is funny how some people defend the deck they are playing (or by pure ignorance) and call other people cry babies and so on.
Everyone can have a look here.
I really don't know what you all talking about. I am only wild player from the beginning. I've never faced Star Aliance druid at ranks 15-5. Thanks to this topic I've started play Druid myself, because i was tired to lose with kingsbane rogue and big priest with my beloved cotrol decks. Now i got my sweet revenge. WR about 70%, but it can be beatable. By shamans, when i got psychmelons at the bottom of the deck, etc...
WR is an important factor into nerf discussion, but not the only one. It cannot be.
Quest Rogue was nerfed the first time when it was t3 in the meta.
Nagalock was nerfed when it was already being contained by the meta.
Finally, "wild is wild" will simply make the mode die. Players will just leave it, the more brokennes it includes. To the point where it will be ridiculous to keep it open.
I reiterate my opinion that Wild should undergo periodical nerf maintenance, NOT killer nerfs but across several classes (all current t1 decks include one or more utterly broken and consistent synergy, some t2 as well), at least with yearly frequency.
One more bad thing about it, that has not been mentioned so far here is the meta influence of combodruid, especially in slow decks vs other slow decks. If I play my Bigspell Mage against Renolock the matchup is now less about skill, but who is luckier in pulling/destroying cards with Dirty Rat, Deathlord and Gnomeferatu and Demonic Project.