Jade Druid is still really Powerful with Poison seeds only real bad match up i found for it is Cubelock
I've been running this from 14 to 10 and have an 80% win rate across 15 games, the 3 losses were stupid missplays on my end or not understanding matchups. I'm not legend caliber (yet) but it seems to do well against almost everything, provided you draw at least decently. Course, I still have no idea what decklist to run. By the time you add in the 'core' cards you're at anywhere from 22-26 (currently 26 for me) and that's without a second idol, behemoths, tyrants, kun, emperor, mulch(es), wrath(s), seed(s), and naturalize(s)
Blizzard should make a special stream lessons or youtube videos in which they explain the the only way hs should be played is with supa dupa 1000 IQ control/combo homebrewed decks and 30 minutes long match is a minimum time period that proves you're not braindead blah blah something etc.
What I keep wondering is how is freeze mage doing in wild right now?
I haven't seen one in ages, at least not the Alex combo version, combo mages are all exodia.
There is a hyper-aggro build with Aluneth, 1-2 cost minions and tonnes of burn which might pass as freeze, and I think it can climb to rank 5, but it is very weak to heal and armor.
What I keep wondering is how is freeze mage doing in wild right now?
I think the traditional freeze mage is playable, but there is some decks wich have lots of heal, namelly Cube/Control warlock. I am playing around Rank 3 (for the first time ever! Don´t know yet if will push for legend), but with the OTK version of the deck (Antonidas, Aprendices, Molten Reflections and Emperor).
I am having a fair amount of success with the deck, the only abysmal matchups are aggro shaman and aggro/Aluneth mage. If you have interest, we can discuss matchups and gameplay.
What I keep wondering is how is freeze mage doing in wild right now?
I think the traditional freeze mage is playable, but there is some decks wich have lots of heal, namelly Cube/Control warlock. I am playing around Rank 3 (for the first time ever! Don´t know yet if will push for legend), but with the OTK version of the deck (Antonidas, Aprendices, Molten Reflections and Emperor).
I am having a fair amount of success with the deck, the only abysmal matchups are aggro shaman and aggro/Aluneth mage. If you have interest, we can discuss matchups and gameplay.
What I keep wondering is how is freeze mage doing in wild right now?
I think the traditional freeze mage is playable, but there is some decks wich have lots of heal, namelly Cube/Control warlock. I am playing around Rank 3 (for the first time ever! Don´t know yet if will push for legend), but with the OTK version of the deck (Antonidas, Aprendices, Molten Reflections and Emperor).
I am having a fair amount of success with the deck, the only abysmal matchups are aggro shaman and aggro/Aluneth mage. If you have interest, we can discuss matchups and gameplay.
Interesting. Do you mind sharing your list? :)
It is not my list, but anyways, I´ve played it a fair deal and just wrote you a short guide. If you want to discuss it further, fell free to add me (play on NA, Battletag on discription).
Wild Meta now is a problem? Definely, it's pretty much dead format at this point.
Gotta appreciate these Doomsayers from time to time :). I would say Wild is at pretty good spot. More deck variety than in Standart, Hearthpwn frontpage has been taken by Wild decks, streamers like Kripparian are streaming the Wild content, HS shows like Omnistone is giving Wild more attention. I know everyone have right to have their own opinions but damn dude you are wrong. Gotta apreciatte your huge Font Size tho. It really shows how non-angry you were when you were writing this.
Wild Meta now is a problem? Definely, it's pretty much dead format at this point.
Gotta appreciate these Doomsayers from time to time :). I would say Wild is at pretty good spot. More deck variety than in Standart, Hearthpwn frontpage has been taken by Wild decks, streamers like Kripparian are streaming the Wild content, HS shows like Omnistone is giving Wild more attention. I know everyone have right to have their own opinions but damn dude you are wrong. Gotta apreciatte your huge Font Size tho. It really shows how non-angry you were when you were writing this.
So please show me that im wrong, what you said doesn't mean anything. Wild of course has more variety than standard it is a non competitive format with larger card pool but everyone knows that majority plays with the easiest decks to climb aka Tier 1 decks and it become a more boring/grinder format than standard, Kripparian is a very bad CONSTRUCTED player and just makes explicit what im trying to say and the current state of Wild (really bad players that dont have any clue what they are doing playing with very poralized decks carried by some OP interactions), making huge missplays over and over again but still winning because it really doesn't matter, the amount of players who do not know anything but keep winning is abysmal and it really triggers me lose to someone who does not have any credibility, it's just not fun but if you are satisfied, cool , that's how wild works. I dont need any font m8 i have been sorely playing wild since it was released and It's never been as bad as it is now. people just want a fast easy way to climb because they are so bad to play Standard, i have more than 150 games every season so a good sample size and currently im around 80% of the games against Warlock/Paladin/Mage, i wonder why ... explain to me how is that good.
In short, people are aware that are some broken shit in wild and just want to abuse it, I do not condemn them for being bad and playing with these decks because is a game problem, is this fun? Not for me.
Sorry for my english, it's not native but i do my best.
Wild Meta now is a problem? Definely, it's pretty much dead format at this point.
Gotta appreciate these Doomsayers from time to time :). I would say Wild is at pretty good spot. More deck variety than in Standart, Hearthpwn frontpage has been taken by Wild decks, streamers like Kripparian are streaming the Wild content, HS shows like Omnistone is giving Wild more attention. I know everyone have right to have their own opinions but damn dude you are wrong. Gotta apreciatte your huge Font Size tho. It really shows how non-angry you were when you were writing this.
So please show me that im wrong, what you said doesn't mean anything. Wild of course has more variety than standard it is a non competitive format with larger card pool but everyone knows that majority plays with the easiest decks to climb aka Tier 1 decks and it become a more boring/grinder format than standard, Kripparian is a very bad CONSTRUCTED player and just makes explicit what im trying to say and the current state of Wild (really bad players that dont have any clue what they are doing playing with very poralized decks carried by some OP interactions), making huge missplays over and over again but still winning because it really doesn't matter, the amount of players who do not know anything but keep winning is abysmal and it really triggers me lose to someone who does not have any credibility, it's just not fun but if you are satisfied, cool , that's how wild works. I dont need any font m8 i have been sorely playing wild since it was released and It's never been as bad as it is now. people just want a fast easy way to climb because they are so bad to play Standard, i have more than 150 games every season so a good sample size and currently im around 80% of the games against Warlock/Paladin/Mage, i wonder why ... explain to me how is that good.
In short, people are aware that are some broken shit in wild and just want to abuse it, I do not condemn them for being bad and playing with these decks because is a game problem, is this fun? Not for me.
Sorry for my english, it's not native but i do my best.
There are currently 2 deck archetypes that reward you for playing stupidly. These are Aggro Pala nad Aluneth Mage. I admit that. I admit that these decks are dumb from a perspective of a control or combo player. However, as any other deck, they have their counters. Wild has a shitton of deck archetypes and there is no deck that is superior. Everyone should accept the fact that Wild in a long run will be a format for a powerfull broken comboes and turns (because this format is eternal and it gets more and more powerfull after every new expansion). Nearly every competitive deck does that either in early or mid game, or in late game. Even tho Aggro Mages and Paladins together with Warlock are majority, they can be beaten by decks like Big Priest, OTK Maly Druid, Jade Druid, Inner Fire Priest and so on and on. Wild meta is fairly more balanced than the Standart one just because of the fact that if meta gets aggro: Anti Aggro Druid package and Reno decks will rise. Meta goes combo? Deathlords, Rats and Coldlights are here to help you. Control Meta? Combo decks and most powerfull Anti Control Priest with Arcibishop (which is control deck by itself) are here. Midrange meta? Control decks will rise. Meta is balancing itself and there is a lot of competitive decks still. Here is my post in this thread where I was writing about meta diversity and what decks I met on my Legend climb. And yes, you can still climb with decks like Reno Mage or Reno Hunter or any other Reno deck. My friend took rank 5 with face hunter in 1,5 hour from rank 10. If we are talking here about deck piloting skills. I do not see problem here. The only decks that I saw missplaying were Palas and Mages. Other archetypes like Giantlock were playing really good around my Vanish,Lighbomb, Posion Seeds and so on. Today my Reno Mage got beaten up 3 times against Reno Warlocks that were a smart fuckers and they kept destroying anything that had 1 health or it could potentially have 1 health on my turn. Im not even talking about decks that are hard to pilot such as Big Rogue or Maly OTK Druid where is very importantly to not missplay, overdraw and so on in order to win. Maybe you are just unlucky and you are meeting players that missplay and gets rewarded for it. And please do not talk like this same problem doesnt exist in Standart. There are literally autopilot decks like Spitefull Priest which rewards you for playing cards that glow green so it is not a Wild problem only. And last but not least. People should realise that Wild is getting more and more stronger with every expansion. There will ve even more broken stuff next expansion. If you want to play some off meta deck on ladder, then sacrifice some place for the tech cards and you should be ok. Do not be suprised that your (lets say) Astral Jade Hadronox Cthun Druid is not working. It is not the fault of the wild meta. It is fault of you for not building the deck correctly. Be more like Dane. Taht guy is amazing. Thats all from me. I hope I cowered all your questions)
I loved Wild, even when like 50% of your enemies were Highlander-Priest (before the Raza-Nerf), because at least Priest was slow enough to get rushed down. But with K&C and Warlock is broken as f*** Wild is in a even worse spot than Standard. I played far more Wild than Standard since Wild came out, but now I am considering switching mainly to Standard until (Non-Zoo-)Warlock get hopefully nerf-hammerd into the abyss.
Blizzard should make a special stream lessons or youtube videos in which they explain the the only way hs should be played is with supa dupa 1000 IQ control/combo homebrewed decks and 30 minutes long match is a minimum time period that proves you're not braindead blah blah something etc.
I loved Wild since forever, always enjoyed to play some non-meta deck at rank 10-5 without even thinking of grind all the way to Legend. But actually I only encounter Secret Mage, Cube Lock and Dude Pala all the time: in a 10 games round I've never faced anything different. I'm not a pro player and I've got only 1 hour per day for HS (and sometimes not even that) so I'm a bit bored about the actual meta.
I don't know why, but this scenario as showed up during the last month, before that at the low-medium ranks at which I usually play there were a much more fun and different meta. If the situation will not change I may even consider to stop playing for a bit, and that is pretty sad.
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For what profit is it to a man, if he gains the world and loses his own soul?
@FirePalyHSPlayer, please use paragraph next time for such a long text and it's Standard not Standart.
No you have not covered any question mine because its not a question but a fact. I have never netdecking in my life and im 27x legend with decks made by myself,I can still climb to legend in Wild or Standard with these "mediocre" non-meta decks but that doesn't mean wild has a healthy or fair meta only means that im a superb player capable to make up the difference between the decks.
Im not sure what you are talking about Dane he have interesting approach for deckbuilding yes but you cant climb at all with these decks, its just crazy shenanigans that is cool to pull off and that's all, i have many many friends that try his decks and tell me exactly like that "it's fun and all but i have more sucess with X meta deck" example: "Big rogue it's nice to pull off the combo but i have more sucess with Kingsbane Rogue."
I'll stop reply you because it's too redundant and obvious,peace.
But with K&C and Warlock is broken as f*** Wild is in a even worse spot than Standard.
Few days ago i made non-meta highlander quest priest and surprisingly it is favourible against Warlock and i lost mostly because of my mistakes (often i am too greedy and hold Amara in hand and opponent defeat me with some cube doomguard damage).
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What I keep wondering is how is freeze mage doing in wild right now?
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Wild Meta now is a problem? Definely, it's pretty much dead format at this point.
Moving into https://outof.cards/members/firepaladinhs/decks
I also hate Mal'Ganis with all this KnC OP warlock cards. It is f**kin stupid.
Voidlord was a terrible mistake (or voidcaller, lackey, skull nerf).
Sorry for my english, it's not native but i do my best.
Moving into https://outof.cards/members/firepaladinhs/decks
I loved Wild, even when like 50% of your enemies were Highlander-Priest (before the Raza-Nerf), because at least Priest was slow enough to get rushed down. But with K&C and Warlock is broken as f*** Wild is in a even worse spot than Standard. I played far more Wild than Standard since Wild came out, but now I am considering switching mainly to Standard until (Non-Zoo-)Warlock get hopefully nerf-hammerd into the abyss.
I loved Wild since forever, always enjoyed to play some non-meta deck at rank 10-5 without even thinking of grind all the way to Legend. But actually I only encounter Secret Mage, Cube Lock and Dude Pala all the time: in a 10 games round I've never faced anything different. I'm not a pro player and I've got only 1 hour per day for HS (and sometimes not even that) so I'm a bit bored about the actual meta.
I don't know why, but this scenario as showed up during the last month, before that at the low-medium ranks at which I usually play there were a much more fun and different meta. If the situation will not change I may even consider to stop playing for a bit, and that is pretty sad.
For what profit is it to a man, if he gains the world and loses his own soul?
@FirePalyHSPlayer, please use paragraph next time for such a long text and it's Standard not Standart.
No you have not covered any question mine because its not a question but a fact. I have never netdecking in my life and im 27x legend with decks made by myself,I can still climb to legend in Wild or Standard with these "mediocre" non-meta decks but that doesn't mean wild has a healthy or fair meta only means that im a superb player capable to make up the difference between the decks.
Im not sure what you are talking about Dane he have interesting approach for deckbuilding yes but you cant climb at all with these decks, its just crazy shenanigans that is cool to pull off and that's all, i have many many friends that try his decks and tell me exactly like that "it's fun and all but i have more sucess with X meta deck" example: "Big rogue it's nice to pull off the combo but i have more sucess with Kingsbane Rogue."
I'll stop reply you because it's too redundant and obvious,peace.