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"I still have an opinion that nerfs won't shake the meta in Wild" Dude stop, this is embarassing... Naga Sea Witch have dictated the meta for such a long time of course it will have an impact in wild.

 

 You know what is truly embarassing? Not realising that meta won't change besides Giantlock becoming Tir 2 or 3 deck. Paladin still have access to some broken cards to Wild. Call to Arms will be still strong in Wild, Cubelock still has Voidlcallers here, Barnes is still around, Aluneth Mage remains untouched and list goes on and on. Druid remains untouched. Stop insulting me for having my own opinion and calling it embarassing. 1 deck vanishing from Wild doesn't mean that whole meta will change. If you don't believe me look at Raza and Patches nerf. ;)

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No one mention about Big Briest and Kings Bane Rogue, what do you think about these 2 decks after the nerf? All their key cards are untouched.

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"I still have an opinion that nerfs won't shake the meta in Wild" Dude stop, this is embarassing... Naga Sea Witch have dictated the meta for such a long time of course it will have an impact in wild.

 

 You know what is truly embarassing? Not realising that meta won't change besides Giantlock becoming Tir 2 or 3 deck. Paladin still have access to some broken cards to Wild. Call to Arms will be still strong in Wild, Cubelock still has Voidlcallers here, Barnes is still around, Aluneth Mage remains untouched and list goes on and on. Druid remains untouched. Stop insulting me for having my own opinion and calling it embarassing. 1 deck vanishing from Wild doesn't mean that whole meta will change. If you don't believe me look at Raza and Patches nerf. ;)

 But you are misunderstanding something: it's not about destroying decks, it's about making them weaker. Making them weaker makes spaces for other decks. Midrange does not really exist in wild because of giantslock. With it gone, midrange will finally rise again (and Zoolock is a midrange-deck for example). And no, i don't see Giantslock being around Tier 2 at all. Simply because they are bad at Turn 8. Not that this is a strong combo, but until turn 8 you have some giants in your deck that you can't play out otherwise. Maybe you can put up 1-2 giants, but they can be easily dealed with. Some Giants will probably not survive it like Clockwork Giant and Sea Giant. They are far too slow there. And with only a few giants i doubt it's even worth it to play on turn 8. Beside this, board clears that are already strong against Giants get stronger and others like Twisting Nether will now be useful too.

No, Giants on turn 8 will not work, simply because too many classes has either a board clear that can deal with it or kill you before turn 8.

About Big Priest: they have already a big counter deck that can deal easily with Big Priest. Rogue on the other hand will benefit from everything.

Still: there are some decks that got pretty oppressed from the whole Cube/Giants thing like Zoolock. So i have absolutely NO idea how the meta will change in wild.

Keleseth Zoo is tier 3, with a turn 2 Keleseth it can snowball out of control.

Other Zoo are tier 4-5, not "top competitive" but very much playable.

Zoo is amazing because this is the most diverse archetype (Egg Void Terror Zoo, Standard Zoo, Flood Zoo with Gormok, Buff Zoo with Blood Fury, Keleseth Zoo, Glinda Keleseth Zoo...).

In an ideal world, there are 50 archetypes in tier 1 lol.

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So I've started playing ladder again after the new ladder reset system, I thought worth giving a shot and I have more time to play. I used to reach Legend or at least rank 5 every season for the last 2 years. But I didn't bother to climb rank 5 for the last 4 months since Kobold release. Mainly because of variation of Big Priest, Cubelock and King's Bane Rogue are too overpowered this time around and I doesn't like playing popular deck like everyone is just playing the same.

What I found here, it reminds me the time when everyone is playing secret Paladin, if you cant beat it join it kind of situation. Do any of you feel the same? Do you think Big Priest, Cube/Giantlock and King's Bane Rogue are the problem? I understand that you can have 100% win rate with these 3 decks against the other deck that have 0 chance to win, its just impossible to beat them unless you play one of these 3 decks or a mirror match and see who draws better.

Why Im saying its a problem, because Big Priest and Cube/Giantlock are technically a control deck, but they can beat the ass out of you on turn 6 if they high rolled correctly, its a winning condition that have never exist before and Kings bane rogues is almost immortal on late game. Whats your thoughts?

As long there is a competitive aspect there will be a meta, it's easy as that. Expecting no competition in wild is plain ignorant, what do you expect, to see the same fun decks at rank 15 as at rank 5? Come on now ... Some people only play to win and copy paste the netdecks. Can't blame the game for that. I'm perfectly happy playing my fun decks between rank 15 and 10. Don't come here complaining about netdeckers at the top of the ladder.

I have not played Wild seriously but I feel like i am missing out by not playing some decks on standard. For example I did not craft and didn't play Elise #2 for example , I feel like that once it rotates out I will only be able to use it in Wild and then it might not be good. I feel like, " oh if I do not use this card now and make use of it now, I will not use it later and it will die". Even if I want to craft a card or something. Do you guys really feel like Wild is just like Blizz saying fine go use your old cards there or whatever. Like I said I feel bad because if you do not use a certain deck now in standard which might be really good, top tier, once it moves to wild it will be tier 2, 3 or 4 and not be able to compete at all. I doubt it but Blizz should make a Super wild (all cards), middle standard (standard + maybe 3 sets) and standard (as is now) .