Isn't KelThuzad the very definition of a "win more card"?
What I am trying to say is that Kel'Thuzad is useless if you are about to loose and not necessary if you are abut to win. He can turn the game for you like fx N'Zoth.
When was ever a meta in which Kel'thuzad was good? He is a fun Card and can win games in rare exceptions, mostly he is just a 8 mana 6/8 which is underwhelming.
So no, he is not good in the sense of a viable ladder card. But he is interesting and unique.
Well, he's not Standard legal so I guess you're asking about Wild. I don't think Kel'Thuzad is necessarily a "win more" card as pjokie said, but he's close. He's more of one of those greedy control cards that ensures inevitability like Ysera.
I actually had a Wild N'Zoth shaman deck a few months ago that worked pretty well. He's pretty insane as a turn 10 play with Reincarnate as you kill him with it, then he revives a copy of himself at end of turn. He's also insane as a rip off Barnes or whatever. Yes, it's greedy and no I would not say it's a very strong meta play, but he's certainly viable at the very least.
Isn't KelThuzad the very definition of a "win more card"?
What I am trying to say is that Kel'Thuzad is useless if you are about to loose and not necessary if you are abut to win. He can turn the game for you like fx N'Zoth.
When was ever a meta in which Kel'thuzad was good? He is a fun Card and can win games in rare exceptions, mostly he is just a 8 mana 6/8 which is underwhelming.
So no, he is not good in the sense of a viable ladder card. But he is interesting and unique.
Kel'Thuzad is always good. He's greedy and, if you're looking to rank up on ladder he's likely overkill (unnecessary), but he is always good.
He's still the most likely minion to cause concedes when played right. Brawl & Twisting Nether are really the only spells that can clear a pair of Kels.
*please note I am Wild!ly biased in favor of Kel'Thuzad and will always have my N'Zoth / Kel deck ready to go*
Well, he's not Standard legal so I guess you're asking about Wild. I don't think Kel'Thuzad is necessarily a "win more" card as pjokie said, but he's close. He's more of one of those greedy control cards that ensures inevitability like Ysera.
I actually had a Wild N'Zoth shaman deck a few months ago that worked pretty well. He's pretty insane as a turn 10 play with Reincarnate as you kill him with it, then he revives a copy of himself at end of turn. He's also insane as a rip off Barnes or whatever. Yes, it's greedy and no I would not say it's a very strong meta play, but he's certainly viable at the very least.
Well, he's not Standard legal so I guess you're asking about Wild. I don't think Kel'Thuzad is necessarily a "win more" card as pjokie said, but he's close. He's more of one of those greedy control cards that ensures inevitability like Ysera.
I actually had a Wild N'Zoth shaman deck a few months ago that worked pretty well. He's pretty insane as a turn 10 play with Reincarnate as you kill him with it, then he revives a copy of himself at end of turn. He's also insane as a rip off Barnes or whatever. Yes, it's greedy and no I would not say it's a very strong meta play, but he's certainly viable at the very least.
how surprising is that! its in the url, who would have thought that he is asking about wild?!
Well, he's not Standard legal so I guess you're asking about Wild. I don't think Kel'Thuzad is necessarily a "win more" card as pjokie said, but he's close. He's more of one of those greedy control cards that ensures inevitability like Ysera.
I actually had a Wild N'Zoth shaman deck a few months ago that worked pretty well. He's pretty insane as a turn 10 play with Reincarnate as you kill him with it, then he revives a copy of himself at end of turn. He's also insane as a rip off Barnes or whatever. Yes, it's greedy and no I would not say it's a very strong meta play, but he's certainly viable at the very least.
how surprising is that! its in the url, who would have thought that he is asking about wild?!
Each is good in its own way. If you have ways to duplicate or protect Rivendare, he tends to provide more value, but Umbra guarantees an immediate effect, which can be important in a lot of cases. So it depends on the rest of your deck. But yes, at least one of these should make it in.
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Each is good in its own way. If you have ways to duplicate or protect Rivendare, he tends to provide more value, but Umbra guarantees an immediate effect, which can be important in a lot of cases. So it depends on the rest of your deck. But yes, at least one of these should make it in.
They both have the same problem with the particular deck you linked. With all of the DR minions starting at 5 to cast, you need to sit on them (or get lucky with a Far Sight) to get good value out of them. They rarely last a turn, so you're looking at turn 9/10 before you can guarantee the trigger. With 2x Reincarnate you get the same result for 2 less / 2 turns earlier.
He can be win games in several N'Zoth decks, but even in greed-showdown matchups, I believe there are better opions, which can also help vs midrange, tempo and aggro.
It's popular in extremely greedy control decks, the ones that people play before they come in here and whine about pirate warrior.
Reincarnate Shaman is one of the best decks against pirate warrior though.
Problem with that is that in reincarnate shaman, KT is still a win-more card. The problem with him will always be that it's always too greedy too include him. Reincarnate has better uses for the deckslot too.
do you think I can reach rank 15 with one of these decks?
I went to legend with a control nzoth kel thuzad shaman in may. So yeah, rank 15 should work out for you. Btw, we will soon be able to buy wild packs and adventures from the blizzard website. (Not in application) I would rather buy naxx, then craft the cards.
I've seen a lot of Kel'thu-freaking-Zad in N'Zoth Shaman. As a Quest Priest player I think he has a lot of potential to be really good, if you can play him well enough. He has been fairly powerful in Shaman, but is easily countered by hard removal spells. I think with Kel'Thuzad it's about baiting out your opponent's hard removal spells and then leaving your opponent in a situation where they can't deal with him once he's on the board. Once you get in that spot, it's an easy win.
Hi,
I would like to craft Kel'Thuzad for my N'Zoth Shaman
is it still good on this meta?
thanks
Isn't KelThuzad the very definition of a "win more card"?
What I am trying to say is that Kel'Thuzad is useless if you are about to loose and not necessary if you are abut to win. He can turn the game for you like fx N'Zoth.
When was ever a meta in which Kel'thuzad was good? He is a fun Card and can win games in rare exceptions, mostly he is just a 8 mana 6/8 which is underwhelming.
So no, he is not good in the sense of a viable ladder card. But he is interesting and unique.
Well, he's not Standard legal so I guess you're asking about Wild. I don't think Kel'Thuzad is necessarily a "win more" card as pjokie said, but he's close. He's more of one of those greedy control cards that ensures inevitability like Ysera.
I actually had a Wild N'Zoth shaman deck a few months ago that worked pretty well. He's pretty insane as a turn 10 play with Reincarnate as you kill him with it, then he revives a copy of himself at end of turn. He's also insane as a rip off Barnes or whatever. Yes, it's greedy and no I would not say it's a very strong meta play, but he's certainly viable at the very least.
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and what about Baron Rivendare and Spiritsinger Umbra on this deck?
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I've also found this deck
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/434131-chaman-de-lamour-shaman-of-love
Short answer, no, he is not.
He can be win games in several N'Zoth decks, but even in greed-showdown matchups, I believe there are better opions, which can also help vs midrange, tempo and aggro.
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It's popular in extremely greedy control decks, the ones that people play before they come in here and whine about pirate warrior.
Its an awesome card, the only i didnt dust from the wild cards
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do you think I can reach rank 15 with one of these decks?
I've seen a lot of Kel'thu-freaking-Zad in N'Zoth Shaman. As a Quest Priest player I think he has a lot of potential to be really good, if you can play him well enough. He has been fairly powerful in Shaman, but is easily countered by hard removal spells. I think with Kel'Thuzad it's about baiting out your opponent's hard removal spells and then leaving your opponent in a situation where they can't deal with him once he's on the board. Once you get in that spot, it's an easy win.