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Read a lot about the discordant opinions about patron here. For me it's a tier 1 no doubt: two decks it suffers ctrl warrior and nzoth priest. Rest of the control decks are 50/50. Versus Midrange n aggro it is a powerhouse. Luckly in wild there is not a win-all deck and meta is always shifting and bouncing. Tier 1 are the bunch of decks with the highest win rate on average. They do depend on the meta and Patron deserves the position with mid hunter and secret pally atm. 

After a lot of experimentation with Renolock, while a killer deck having a minimum of 50% chance against any deck (deck just has too many answers with aoe/ heal/ huge threats), I cannot put it in tier 1.5 anymore due to the very small inconsistency it can have due to the lack of duplicates. Mid tier 2 seems more reasonable.

Peace out.

The only thing that makes Patron strong in my opinion is how it crushes Secret Paladin and Freeze Mage almost every single time.
I loses to any good control player though      (unless you get lucky and they don't draw aoe or you draw flawlessly)

Quote from Vyr1611 >>

The dr X memes are not funny anymore, stop that !

Or put ff X for each op card (because let's face it the 7/7 turn 7 can't compete with the 7/7 turn 4). Or better just stop these memes.

Apart from that pretty good list although some rankings seem a bit.. wild like midrange n'zoth pally in t4 just WTF this thing is t2 at worst. BTW Eater of secrets < Kezan Mystic especially vs mage and hunter so mentionning eater only and no kezan to counter to freeze mage was a bit off.

Zoo isn't that oppressive I have seen one zoo in 3 seasons. Best decks benefit a lot from wild cards, zoo doesn't get that much benefit and suffers vs increased board clears, taunts and heals. I would put it probably in t3 (4 tier system below)

Even vs secret pally Kezan is okay not as good as eater ofc but you can steal shit like avenge as early as t4.

- Mech shaman isn't that horribly bad. T6 wtf ????? I guess you haven't seen a mech mage in a while, because it still HURTS. I would put it upper tier 3 in the 4 tier system proposed below.

- Beast druid is a standart thing, horrible in wild because there are midrange decks with way better curves and win cons that sticking a vanilla 5/5 with stealth at turn 5 and using a menagerie warden at turn 6. Tier 3 deck (4 tier system). No comeback mechanics (swipe not enough) and you can't go over most midrange decks. Maybe you can go under some control decks with a ridiculous start but apart from that it's a loose-loose situation. Also lightbomb says hi to your three 5/5 at turn 6

- Freeze mage sounds pretty good till you realize that you will loose 95% if they have eater and 100% if they have kezan mystic. Oh and you loose 95% to control warrior and control priest isn't that great of a MU anymore... You also loose to ridiculous agro decks if they have a perfect start.. Maybe I'm just pointing the bad side of the picture but freeze mage is not that great for laddering consistently in wild. Even pre standart era it was better as a tournament deck then for ladder. Okay on ladder you will get many free wins against random board centric decks that don't have secret hate teched in. Yet freeze only looses mad scientist in standart and other people loose much more like kezan, healbot, loatheb I don't see any point at playing freze in wild tbh. Atm I've even seen flares in midrange hunters so they will also shit on you. And I put a kezan in all my non hunter midrange decks so bye bye freeze mage :s

Also I would advise reducing the number of tiers to 4 at most because right now 6+ unrefined (=7 tiers) is just too many.

t1 : most dominating decks that can easily crush most of the ladder

t2 : strong decks, maybe not the best but can be teched to counter t1 decks

t3 : viable decks part of the meta

t4 : unrefined or gimmicky decks

Quote from Vyr1611 >>

Also I would advise reducing the number of tiers to 4 at most because right now 6+ unrefined (=7 tiers) is just too many.

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Tier 5

Demonlock
The problem being, it depends way too much into early voidcaller to be effective, else a subpar deck.

No malchezaar in renolock, jaraxxus is a better finisher against control.

Source: Legend renolock player

Bump!