Depends. If it's turn 1 and your choice is to play a Mana Wyrm or not, then yes it's BM. Play your frickin' Mana Wyrm and pass the frickin' turn. If it's like turn 15 and your opponent is at 23 life and if you sequence your cards perfectly you have lethal in 3 turns but if you make a single mistake you die on the spot, then no it's not BM, take your time.
BM, perhaps but entirely legal so it doesn't rise above a minor annoyance and it's not something that I would change the game time over. I'm doing other things while it happens so it's really a poor strategy.
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If it's bad connection or they are making decisions, it's fine by me. But the jackwagons who rope it out just to annoy the opponent should be banned from playing this game. No matter how much I can't stand my opponent, I will NEVER do this to them intentionally. Takes all the fun right out of the game, and even when you win against a roper it still feels like you lost something.
YES BM btw
Why? I mean, I'll give you a scenario. You create a gimmick deck, you queue into Casual because you want to face someone playing another gimmick deck so you can have fun an experiment. You get queued into a ... "player" ... who decides to play Pirate Warrior (or any other cancer deck) because he wants free wins and doesn't have the decency to take the deck to Ranked and face equality prepared opponents, he just want to face with gimmick decks so he knows he will win and the opponent doesn't stand a chance to fight back. In my view, a really scumbag thing to do. You should always pick fights with someone your own size, not someone who can't fight you.
When I'm in this situation, I have two options. Most times, I will concede, which sucks because I'm giving him a free win that is not deserved at all and shouldn't be awarded. However, when I have enough patience and free time, I will rope the person every single turn (well after I know the deck they are playing) and try my best to still win the game, even if I'm at a huge disadvantage. I will either win or lose, but I will have wasted that persons time and possibly even made him lose a game after all that time. That feels gratifying because I know that person didn't get to ruin the fun of even more people after me, he was stuck in a game with me for a long time so that the matches he could have done that didn't happen.
If someone decides to act like those people, and ruin my fun with the game, I will retribute the favour if I can. I just wish I had the patience, time and mood to do it more often.
Why? Because I don't want to waste my play time just to stick it to a PW or anyone else. If you didn't want to play against a PW, why would you make the game 10x longer with them?
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I just want to throw in, sometimes it is none of the above, neither thinking the turn thru, nor bad connection, nor trying to SunTzu you off balance via 'BM' nor being evil. I know most players may not fit this paradigm so they dont think of it, but, sometimes:
the phone rings,
one of your children emerges from behind their iPhone and takes their earphones off for a homework question,
sometimes there is a knock on the door and its your aggravating sister who you can 'mmm-hmm' and 'really?' and 'you dont say' while waiting for her to actually realize you are not going to stop playing the game until you are done.
Or Mountain Men or the Last Alaskans or whatever comes on, which you wouldn' stop playing for like Game of Thrones, but hey, it does divide your attention.
I mean, that list of things that divide your attention (getting food, getting a drink, sharing with the dog, hitting the loo, etc... ) man, some of us just live in a ropey world.
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"Its beyond my control." - Viscount Valmont, as played by John Malkovich, Dangerous Liaisons
It might not always be like that tho mind you. I've played pirate warrior in casual. I wanted to see what the fuss was about so made the deck and went into casual because I had never played it before and wasn't sure how to play. I was probably the slowest pirate warrior ever tho, didn't have much success and didn't enjoy the deck either way.
My point is just because you meet a "rank deck" in casual doesn't mean it someone who's there for free wins (to what end?) it might just as well be someone who is new to the deck or class. Casual is just as much about learning and trying out new stuff as it is about making fun decks imo.
What I'm going to tell you now is what every single good player or pro player will tell you. No one, I mean, NO ONE, should test decks in Casual. Casual is not at all a representation of the Metagame and is filled with Gimmick decks that don't exist at all in Ranked. If you test a deck in Casual, when you decide to take it to Ranked, you will find a really big difference in decks and you will find that the results you had in Casual with the deck are none representative at all of the quality of the deck. You don't learn anything in Casual because most people that play in Casual don't do so with decks optimized to win, so there is little to learn there.
Obviously, you can dismiss what I'm saying, but one day you will come to the conclusion that this is just a fact.
That is fact, casual meta is much different compare to ranker and experience gained is not much use. In the same time I often use it when I need to learn a new Deck in a new class. I have like 6 ranked win with mage. Never liked the class, never really played it. If one day I wish to start learning it will netdeck the best mage deck and take it for spin in casual. Especially if I am already good rank in ladder
Only the cancerous aggro decks. You want quick, easy, 2 minute victories that are solely dependant on the hand quality of both players, going face and vomitting your hand on the board by turn 3? No, you will NOT get that from me.
I will waste your time as much as possible. Every minute of your time that I waste, is a minute that the REST of the Hearthstone playerbase does NOT need to deal with YOUR cancerous bullshit deck. I see it as a service to the playerbase. Keep the pirate warrior busy for 15 mins instead of his average 3, that's 5 games he coulda played against others but is stuck playing ONE game, against ME.
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If my opponent is roping me on any turn, i rope him right back, that usually makes them stop roping when they realize how annoying it is. And u cant sell me the bullshit excuse of how they were thinking through their turn with 2 cards in their hand. Just rope them back, fight assholes by being an asshole.
I sometimes rope at some point just because I have a year-old kid that can decide to leave whatever he was doing to rush towards some danger that caught his attention. As soon as the situation is settled, I'm usually in for intense roping from my opponent just as a vengeance. As I'm reading comments here, I believe some of these might have been some of you
To those that keep talking about Casual as if it's full of weird and wonderful decks, it's really not, a vast majority of players you face in casual use popular meta decks. You do seldom get the odd ball deck but it's like 1 in 30 games.
Never rope,regardless of what my opponent plays - except if I have a difficult turn, which does not happen very often, or I have to take care of my baby in the middle of the game. Roping because your opponent is playing, say, pirate warrior, is nothing but rude. There is nothing wrong with any archetype in the game, and there is nothing wrong with losing or winning a fast game. If you play control on ladder, it is beneficial if your opponent concedes on turn 6 for example, instead of roping you back. It's not only rude to rope, it's a waste of time for everybody.
Using your allowed time each turn is not BM.
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Depends. If it's turn 1 and your choice is to play a Mana Wyrm or not, then yes it's BM. Play your frickin' Mana Wyrm and pass the frickin' turn. If it's like turn 15 and your opponent is at 23 life and if you sequence your cards perfectly you have lethal in 3 turns but if you make a single mistake you die on the spot, then no it's not BM, take your time.
Haven't read every comment. One answer, yes! There is no need to turn one rope ever, late game maybe.
1. AFK
2. Intentional
3. Streamer who thinks what to do even if he has one card in hand and can't use it.
BM, perhaps but entirely legal so it doesn't rise above a minor annoyance and it's not something that I would change the game time over. I'm doing other things while it happens so it's really a poor strategy.
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Nature is the Day.
Man is the Sun.
Woman is the Moon.
The Stone is the Sky.
The Art is the Way.
I just want to throw in, sometimes it is none of the above, neither thinking the turn thru, nor bad connection, nor trying to SunTzu you off balance via 'BM' nor being evil. I know most players may not fit this paradigm so they dont think of it, but, sometimes:
the phone rings,
one of your children emerges from behind their iPhone and takes their earphones off for a homework question,
sometimes there is a knock on the door and its your aggravating sister who you can 'mmm-hmm' and 'really?' and 'you dont say' while waiting for her to actually realize you are not going to stop playing the game until you are done.
Or Mountain Men or the Last Alaskans or whatever comes on, which you wouldn' stop playing for like Game of Thrones, but hey, it does divide your attention.
I mean, that list of things that divide your attention (getting food, getting a drink, sharing with the dog, hitting the loo, etc... ) man, some of us just live in a ropey world.
"Its beyond my control." - Viscount Valmont, as played by John Malkovich, Dangerous Liaisons
Only the cancerous aggro decks. You want quick, easy, 2 minute victories that are solely dependant on the hand quality of both players, going face and vomitting your hand on the board by turn 3? No, you will NOT get that from me.
I will waste your time as much as possible. Every minute of your time that I waste, is a minute that the REST of the Hearthstone playerbase does NOT need to deal with YOUR cancerous bullshit deck. I see it as a service to the playerbase. Keep the pirate warrior busy for 15 mins instead of his average 3, that's 5 games he coulda played against others but is stuck playing ONE game, against ME.
Level 60: All classes
Golden Classes: Druid, Mage, Shaman, Paladin, Warrior
Highest rank: Legend, 52 (EU, obviously)
Best arena: 12-0
If my opponent is roping me on any turn, i rope him right back, that usually makes them stop roping when they realize how annoying it is. And u cant sell me the bullshit excuse of how they were thinking through their turn with 2 cards in their hand. Just rope them back, fight assholes by being an asshole.
Not against a pirate warrior. FACT.
:P
From this topic I can understand how many fucking cunts are therplaying Hearthstone...
Come on. Aggro decks are part of the game. They should be part of the game. Do not bother yourself with someone roping or not. Just do your thing.
I sometimes rope at some point just because I have a year-old kid that can decide to leave whatever he was doing to rush towards some danger that caught his attention. As soon as the situation is settled, I'm usually in for intense roping from my opponent just as a vengeance. As I'm reading comments here, I believe some of these might have been some of you
It's bad manners if you play the game in a way I don't like,
according to this thread.
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To those that keep talking about Casual as if it's full of weird and wonderful decks, it's really not, a vast majority of players you face in casual use popular meta decks. You do seldom get the odd ball deck but it's like 1 in 30 games.
Never rope,regardless of what my opponent plays - except if I have a difficult turn, which does not happen very often, or I have to take care of my baby in the middle of the game. Roping because your opponent is playing, say, pirate warrior, is nothing but rude. There is nothing wrong with any archetype in the game, and there is nothing wrong with losing or winning a fast game. If you play control on ladder, it is beneficial if your opponent concedes on turn 6 for example, instead of roping you back. It's not only rude to rope, it's a waste of time for everybody.
Why was this moved to the arena forum?
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