I think one of the best measuring sticks to show that EU is easier than NA is to look at Hafu and Merps arena averages. Both had individual accounts that averaged less than 7 wins (Hafu 6.91 and Merps 6.54) on NA. They had a combined arena account on EU called HafuandMerps that averaged 7.24. Normally this might be because they are better playing cooperative but this month they didn't have time to do 30 runs together so they each did 15 or so individually but taking turns on the same account. Obv. there is variance here but that I think the difference of 0.5-0.75 wins per run is much greater than the standard deviation.
On a personal note, I'm a bit dissapointed I didn't make it. Around January 10 I was averaging 7.3 but I had a disasterous stretch in the 2nd half of the month and I think I ended up in the next 25 off the top 100. Maybe next month. The thing I like the best about this is how it shows that a real honest average of over 7 wins per run in the long haul is exceptional. Only 22 ppl did it in January. Sure there are people that may average over 7/run that don't make 30/month but it's for sure a lot less than hearthpwn users would hve you believe.
I'm surprised nobody has brought it up yet why so many players on the NA server are called "Meow" something or other. Are they all the same person/team?
I'm surprised nobody has brought it up yet why so many players on the NA server are called "Meow" something or other. Are they all the same person/team?
The Meow players are a Chinese Arena clan/team.
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4x Top 150 arena player #95 June 2017 6.80, #108 Aug 2017 7.67, #127 Feb 2018 Wildfest 7.7, #33 Nov 2018 7.53
HCT Challenger Finals qualifier: 2018 Season 1, 2, 3
What was your average at the end of the month Timsta007?
I know what you mean though, I started this month 10 runs in at 7.25, and then have had like 5 drafts in a row with less than 70 tier score, and have dropped just below 7.00 now. I was really hopeful I could keep above 7, still need another 15 arena runs this month though
Rumor is that it's a team of Chinese players that usually play the Asia server but for this rankings they all played on NA. Pretty solid results for sure.
Honestly any experienced player with a small sample size can get easily 8-9 wins average. I guess they decided 30 runs was a good size that took in consideration if it's possible for players to even get to 30 runs in a month.
Personally, I played way too much myself in January and gotten way too many suboptimal runs and careless draft decisions (4 0-3 runs is a shame). My global winrate in the latter half of 2016 before January was a 6.4 (out of 344 runs) and butchered last month with a 5.8. Playing less now and making more calculated plays, which is bringing me back to a 6.1, which I doubt will break into top 100, but at least I want to go back to my 6.4 average lol
As for the server discussions, I believe it's mostly come down to the population differences. There's way more players on EU server, which like already mentioned, dilute the pool of experienced players and with a decent lucky streak is able to tilt your true average by quite a bit. Plus, it seems some of the NA pro players went to EU with a clean account to aim for a higher score, which would also up their score from their true average by like 0.1? or 0.2? (based on what ADCWTA was suggesting).
I'm honestly kind of against the idea of artificially increasing your win rate, but I guess since "everyone can do it" it's all fair and games.
February may very likely has a stronger average for the bottom top 100, since now players can tryhard from the start of the month, although I doubt it will be that much of a difference.
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Regular NA Arena Leaderboard player. Reached #1 in NA arena leaderboard in May 2018 with a 9.07 average!
Has Blizzard confirmed that the top 100 arena leaderboard will be every month from now on?
I only had a 6.1 average on NA last month. So far in February I have a 7.6 average after 10 runs and no Warlock class offered yet...
Hopefully my RNG doesn't crash too hard and I can squeak in at the bottom of the leaderboard. Also, it would be nice if the Chinese Meow players stayed on their server so there is less competition. And #16 Brian Wong please don't queue with me again and crush my arena run.
What was your average at the end of the month Timsta007?
I know what you mean though, I started this month 10 runs in at 7.25, and then have had like 5 drafts in a row with less than 70 tier score, and have dropped just below 7.00 now. I was really hopeful I could keep above 7, still need another 15 arena runs this month though
how the hell you manage to get those 70+ decks?
I played 11 arenas during the weekend (6.55 average) and only 2 were 70+. most of my decks are around 67.5 points.
The current deck I play is 64.9... (edit: nevermind, it went 12 anyway)
I played 70 arenas in MsG so far and I had only 14 decks above 70 points...
What was your average at the end of the month Timsta007?
Sorry I missed this the first time. My average was around 6.2 I believe. I've a had a bad start to February as well. Sitting at around 6.0 atm. Arena got really hard since they made this announcement.
A few days ago I went from 7.13 average in 8 runs to 5,8 in 10 with a 1-3 with Mage (that actually had dr Boom in it, only saw him in the game I won) and a horrible Paladin draft (curve 0/7/9/7/2/2/1/0) that went 0-3 :o. As everyone posting here obviously knows the variance is huge. Had 2 12-win runs with Warlock (and one on the 30th of January, two days too soon :p). I think I'm going to read some stuff about arena drafting/watch some streamers and going to try hard again with a clean sheet in March. Other people here who would be interested in a top 100 EU Arena motivation topic like the ones that exist for reaching Legend? :)
yeah well, after a 12-2 paladin, I`ve just had a 1-3 paladin deck. and I really wanted to try warrior at the beggining of the month, but after that 1-3 deck, I realised that I cant test things anymore... so with these craps, I`m around 6.2 now. So basically you can have maybe 1 unlucky draft, but 2 is just too much. that means the same 2 or 3 heroes against the same 3 heroes all the time.
and warlock is like mage was with the firelands portal, but he has 2 annoying cards now.
I really think that they should have a balance patch between 2 expansions because 4 months with the same meta is just boring.
From what I hear only 250 people in NA had 30 runs in January.
I'm more likely to stop playing Hearthstone altogether than getting anywhere close to 30 runs in a given region. That's a pretty big number for a game this long in the tooth.
For me 250 people seems to be an extremely low number and personally I dont believe it. I rather wait until there is some official statement from blizzard.
For me 250 people seems to be an extremely low number and personally I dont believe it. I rather wait until there is some official statement from blizzard.
I don't think it's that unbelievable. The scores on the leaderboard indicate that not that many people managed to qualify. If you are infinite you would have made it onto the board, and to be it's not hard to believe that there are very few non-infinite players that average an arena run every day.
Dont talk sh*t man, being lucky for 30 games doesnt exist, it's called skill. I recommend to play a little more arena. As a top 50 player i would say practise makes perfect. Eu is not ez btw. Just more tryhards
I think one of the best measuring sticks to show that EU is easier than NA is to look at Hafu and Merps arena averages. Both had individual accounts that averaged less than 7 wins (Hafu 6.91 and Merps 6.54) on NA. They had a combined arena account on EU called HafuandMerps that averaged 7.24. Normally this might be because they are better playing cooperative but this month they didn't have time to do 30 runs together so they each did 15 or so individually but taking turns on the same account. Obv. there is variance here but that I think the difference of 0.5-0.75 wins per run is much greater than the standard deviation.
On a personal note, I'm a bit dissapointed I didn't make it. Around January 10 I was averaging 7.3 but I had a disasterous stretch in the 2nd half of the month and I think I ended up in the next 25 off the top 100. Maybe next month. The thing I like the best about this is how it shows that a real honest average of over 7 wins per run in the long haul is exceptional. Only 22 ppl did it in January. Sure there are people that may average over 7/run that don't make 30/month but it's for sure a lot less than hearthpwn users would hve you believe.
I'm surprised nobody has brought it up yet why so many players on the NA server are called "Meow" something or other. Are they all the same person/team?
The only cancer in Hearthstone is its community.
4x Top 150 arena player
#95 June 2017 6.80, #108 Aug 2017 7.67, #127 Feb 2018 Wildfest 7.7, #33 Nov 2018 7.53
HCT Challenger Finals qualifier: 2018 Season 1, 2, 3
What was your average at the end of the month Timsta007?
I know what you mean though, I started this month 10 runs in at 7.25, and then have had like 5 drafts in a row with less than 70 tier score, and have dropped just below 7.00 now. I was really hopeful I could keep above 7, still need another 15 arena runs this month though
Rumor is that it's a team of Chinese players that usually play the Asia server but for this rankings they all played on NA. Pretty solid results for sure.
Honestly any experienced player with a small sample size can get easily 8-9 wins average. I guess they decided 30 runs was a good size that took in consideration if it's possible for players to even get to 30 runs in a month.
Personally, I played way too much myself in January and gotten way too many suboptimal runs and careless draft decisions (4 0-3 runs is a shame). My global winrate in the latter half of 2016 before January was a 6.4 (out of 344 runs) and butchered last month with a 5.8. Playing less now and making more calculated plays, which is bringing me back to a 6.1, which I doubt will break into top 100, but at least I want to go back to my 6.4 average lol
As for the server discussions, I believe it's mostly come down to the population differences. There's way more players on EU server, which like already mentioned, dilute the pool of experienced players and with a decent lucky streak is able to tilt your true average by quite a bit. Plus, it seems some of the NA pro players went to EU with a clean account to aim for a higher score, which would also up their score from their true average by like 0.1? or 0.2? (based on what ADCWTA was suggesting).
I'm honestly kind of against the idea of artificially increasing your win rate, but I guess since "everyone can do it" it's all fair and games.
February may very likely has a stronger average for the bottom top 100, since now players can tryhard from the start of the month, although I doubt it will be that much of a difference.
Regular NA Arena Leaderboard player.
Reached #1 in NA arena leaderboard in May 2018 with a 9.07 average!
Has Blizzard confirmed that the top 100 arena leaderboard will be every month from now on?
I only had a 6.1 average on NA last month. So far in February I have a 7.6 average after 10 runs and no Warlock class offered yet...
Hopefully my RNG doesn't crash too hard and I can squeak in at the bottom of the leaderboard. Also, it would be nice if the Chinese Meow players stayed on their server so there is less competition. And #16 Brian Wong please don't queue with me again and crush my arena run.
4x Top 150 arena player
#95 June 2017 6.80, #108 Aug 2017 7.67, #127 Feb 2018 Wildfest 7.7, #33 Nov 2018 7.53
HCT Challenger Finals qualifier: 2018 Season 1, 2, 3
A few days ago I went from 7.13 average in 8 runs to 5,8 in 10 with a 1-3 with Mage (that actually had dr Boom in it, only saw him in the game I won) and a horrible Paladin draft (curve 0/7/9/7/2/2/1/0) that went 0-3 :o. As everyone posting here obviously knows the variance is huge. Had 2 12-win runs with Warlock (and one on the 30th of January, two days too soon :p). I think I'm going to read some stuff about arena drafting/watch some streamers and going to try hard again with a clean sheet in March. Other people here who would be interested in a top 100 EU Arena motivation topic like the ones that exist for reaching Legend? :)
yeah well, after a 12-2 paladin, I`ve just had a 1-3 paladin deck. and I really wanted to try warrior at the beggining of the month, but after that 1-3 deck, I realised that I cant test things anymore... so with these craps, I`m around 6.2 now. So basically you can have maybe 1 unlucky draft, but 2 is just too much. that means the same 2 or 3 heroes against the same 3 heroes all the time.
and warlock is like mage was with the firelands portal, but he has 2 annoying cards now.
I really think that they should have a balance patch between 2 expansions because 4 months with the same meta is just boring.
The only cancer in Hearthstone is its community.
From what I hear only 250 people in NA had 30 runs in January.
I'm more likely to stop playing Hearthstone altogether than getting anywhere close to 30 runs in a given region. That's a pretty big number for a game this long in the tooth.
Where did you hear that number of 250 freakin3?
For me 250 people seems to be an extremely low number and personally I dont believe it. I rather wait until there is some official statement from blizzard.
The only cancer in Hearthstone is its community.
Damn should have made an account on Europe. Arena seems to be quite a bit easier there.
"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice."
Dont talk sh*t man, being lucky for 30 games doesnt exist, it's called skill. I recommend to play a little more arena. As a top 50 player i would say practise makes perfect. Eu is not ez btw. Just more tryhards
Golden Heroes in order:
Mage, Warlock, Priest, Shaman, Warrior, Rogue, Paladin
I made the March thread : )
http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/the-arena/187268-march-arena-top-100-motivation-thread