As the title suggests, the rewards are literally a joke. I am so tired of getting of those worthless common cards at 7+ wins. Not even mentioning the amount of gold that you get. I only get to play arena again if I get at least 7 wins. Sure, If I design my deck around 12 wins, I usually get 8-10 wins and sometimes with a good draw 12 wins but even that is not satisfying. In the heroic brawl, 12 wins meant at least something and I think in Arena, instead of getting 3 golden legendaries, one of the pack should certainly be a legendary card (gold or not) or should give around 1k gold. Besides, I do not use one of those addon to pick the most valuable card all the time. I am experienced enough to choose between the cards that suits the Arena meta most, yet I often try new combos and mechanics for fun - such as picking a RNG cards and I really enjoy abusing them - that is why I sometimes stuck at 5 wins. The point is, If I get more gold through higher wins, I would be less afraid to pick new combo decks (dragon, beast, buff etc.) in different runs as I believe drafting the deck is the sort of 'unique' fun part that you get by playing Arena.
I am not sure if the rewarding system is getting worse with each expansion, but I can clearly say that it used to be much fair.
Yea its become pretty tough to earn back your gold. Plus getting a decent draw and making it work is very tough.
But... think about it this way.... even if u win 0 games.... you only lose 50 gold, because you are guaranteed a card pack. Usually you will get a little dust too. If you win a couple great! That how I think about this especially when I have a terrible run...
But yea personally I've been avoiding arena runs.. I'm not so great at them plus card packs means instant reward.
Hopefully they make some good changes to the arena... otherwise it's only the insanely good, or extremely lucky who are benefiting.
Yea its become pretty tough to earn back your gold. Plus getting a decent draw and making it work is very tough.
But... think about it this way.... even if u win 0 games.... you only lose 50 gold, because you are guaranteed a card pack. Usually you will get a little dust too. If you win a couple great! That how I think about this especially when I have a terrible run...
But yea personally I've been avoiding arena runs.. I'm not so great at them plus card packs means instant reward.
Hopefully they make some good changes to the arena... otherwise it's only the insanely good, or extremely lucky who are benefiting.
I don't like the meta and I already stopped playing ranked games for now so I never buy packs, I just enjoy playing Arena as I believe it is certainly fun as it allows you to play much more cards along with many combinations. I think you should definitely get constant 150 g between 3-6 wins and the other options should increase by each additional win. What am I going to do with golden Backstreet Leper.
They should start taking all that 5 gold rewards out. It's really annoying when you finish an arena and you have to find yourself with 5 gold you can't do anything with.
You don't loose much when you don't hit a break even point, so you don't earn that much when you perform good. It's fair. If you want rewards for 7+ to be better than, rewards for 4 and less wins should become worse and I don't think it's a deal most players would accept.
Arena is about consistency. It's not about getting 12 wins once per 10 runs and this compensating all the bad ones you had previously. It's about being able to consistently have that average 6-7 wins. So don't compare it to Heroic Brawl, which was a one-shooter. Rewards in Arena are fair for both sides - you consistently loose, so you consistently loose gold, but not much, you consistently win, so you consistently win gold, but again - not much. If you aren't able to win consistently in Arena, then it's not a place for you.
Getting 12 wins is a big deal since it depends on many conditions such as your Arena experience, RNG, your deck, the opponents that you face etc. I sometimes get 12 wins with a very bad deck and sometimes suck at 6 wins with the one that I would think I will go 12 wins for sure. I just do not want to see any stupid common card as a reward. I should instead get money because I do not play Ranked Games and for those who play, they can buy packs with the gold that they earn through Arena.
Why do you think you deserve anything except 150 gold refund and a pack for 7 wins?
7 wins gives extra reward which is 20-30 gold or something like that. This post is a joke not the rewards.
What a limited approach. Then make Arena entrance 50g and I will buy my pack if I want with the additional 100g that I get through rewards. Besides, even famous Arena player on Twitch often can't manage to get to 7 wins, but I know it is easier to write it than make it happen.
I have an average winrate of 4,4 wins per run in arena this expansion.. It feels quite average but Im thankful for getting a profit atleast. If I am rewarded 50 gold and a pack that is something I consider breaking even since packs is what you spend the gold on if you dont play arena. Anything above 1 pack and 50 gold is free stuff which I am thankful for since I didnt have to pay anything for it. I have never been able to go better than 8-3 but arena still slowly builds a good collection of cards over time
I have an average winrate of 4,4 wins per run in arena this expansion.. It feels quite average but Im thankful for getting a profit atleast. If I am rewarded 50 gold and a pack that is something I consider breaking even since packs is what you spend the gold on if you dont play arena. Anything above 1 pack and 50 gold is free stuff which I am thankful for since I didnt have to pay anything for it. I have never been able to go better than 8-3 but arena still slowly builds a good collection of cards over time
That only makes sense if you are mainly playing Ranked mode. I am an Arena player and I do not care so much about the card collection that I make. HS is not only about climbing the ladder and all I want is if I manage to get 6 wins, I should certainly be allowed to play another game.
blizzard needs to make money to develop and maintain hearthstone.
I doubt that. While the average legendary that you get through 40 packs is only '2' and people are definitely pay money to get those packs, there is already a constant enormous amount of money flowing here. HS generates over $20 million in revenue per month and considering it is merely a card game that doesn't require constant and frequent maintenance, it is already A LOT and also so unfair.
They should start taking all that 5 gold rewards out. It's really annoying when you finish an arena and you have to find yourself with 5 gold you can't do anything with.
Couldn't agree more, holy shit I'm not the only one!
The consensus of this chat seems to be as follows: -Fuck the 5 gold reward -Fuck getting random cards as rewards
The other points seem to be up for debate. I get 7+ wins my fair share of the time and I always fear that I'm going to get fucked over by the random reward. I do think the arena system would benefit at least a little bit from having set, or very close to set rewards. There IS a list here: http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Arena Showing the reward structure, with what's guaranteed and what's random. I think it feels a lot more random than it actually is, but the main issue (if there is one) lies in that "random reward" section. at 9 wins you can still just get a common card, which is a complete dick-slap if you get it. I don't think getting a regular common card should be possible at that high.
There are some weird jumps too in gold rewards. At 5 wins you guaranteed get 45-60 gold, 6 wins gets you 75-85, and at 7, 8 AND 9* wins the guaranteed reward is 150-160 (Well 9 wins is 150-165 but still). The Random rewards technically increase though, but it's the variability in these rewards that makes people feel fucked over. Looking just at the extra gold possible, 7 wins get 20-30 (which is fine, sure), 8 wins gets 20-45 (The big difference between 7 and 8 wins though is the fact that you get one extra random reward at 8 wins), and 9 wins is....20-120 gold......I just have to ask, Why? Why is there a 100 gold difference between the lowest and highest at 9 wins? I think most of us would rather have a more conservative range of 50-100 even, so we KNOW getting that extra win will actually matter. This is only one example but it's this kind of randomness that makes arena players feel shitty sometimes.
Overall I do think a more definitive reward system would help it feel better. getting 7 wins should NOT reward more than a 9 win run. It's just common sense really, and if the randomness gets in the way of that, I think there's a problem.
I agree at high wins golden common card rewards are just shxt. I just had a 12 win run but I only got 245 gold, a pack, a golden common and a golden rare which is pretty shxtty. I never got a single legendary for my high wins reward too. I think most people would rather get more gold to play more arena games or buy packs than getting useless golden cards while they don't even have the whole card collection. They should really reduce the rate you get golden common cards.
Yeah I literally just had a 12 win warlock run and got two golden rares and 260 gold. Doesn't feel good. GETTING the twelve wins felt great but then I got the reward and I just thought "well feels fuckin bad man."
they should make the gold rewards more often than cards or dust. Most people playing arena do it just for that, playing arena, we want gold, not cards or dust. I have full collection and dont even play constructed in years...
As the title suggests, the rewards are literally a joke. I am so tired of getting of those worthless common cards at 7+ wins. Not even mentioning the amount of gold that you get. I only get to play arena again if I get at least 7 wins. Sure, If I design my deck around 12 wins, I usually get 8-10 wins and sometimes with a good draw 12 wins but even that is not satisfying. In the heroic brawl, 12 wins meant at least something and I think in Arena, instead of getting 3 golden legendaries, one of the pack should certainly be a legendary card (gold or not) or should give around 1k gold. Besides, I do not use one of those addon to pick the most valuable card all the time. I am experienced enough to choose between the cards that suits the Arena meta most, yet I often try new combos and mechanics for fun - such as picking a RNG cards and I really enjoy abusing them - that is why I sometimes stuck at 5 wins. The point is, If I get more gold through higher wins, I would be less afraid to pick new combo decks (dragon, beast, buff etc.) in different runs as I believe drafting the deck is the sort of 'unique' fun part that you get by playing Arena.
I am not sure if the rewarding system is getting worse with each expansion, but I can clearly say that it used to be much fair.
Yea its become pretty tough to earn back your gold. Plus getting a decent draw and making it work is very tough.
But... think about it this way.... even if u win 0 games.... you only lose 50 gold, because you are guaranteed a card pack. Usually you will get a little dust too. If you win a couple great! That how I think about this especially when I have a terrible run...
But yea personally I've been avoiding arena runs.. I'm not so great at them plus card packs means instant reward.
Hopefully they make some good changes to the arena... otherwise it's only the insanely good, or extremely lucky who are benefiting.
They should start taking all that 5 gold rewards out. It's really annoying when you finish an arena and you have to find yourself with 5 gold you can't do anything with.
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Why do you think you deserve anything except 150 gold refund and a pack for 7 wins?
7 wins gives extra reward which is 20-30 gold or something like that. This post is a joke not the rewards.
I have an average winrate of 4,4 wins per run in arena this expansion.. It feels quite average but Im thankful for getting a profit atleast. If I am rewarded 50 gold and a pack that is something I consider breaking even since packs is what you spend the gold on if you dont play arena. Anything above 1 pack and 50 gold is free stuff which I am thankful for since I didnt have to pay anything for it. I have never been able to go better than 8-3 but arena still slowly builds a good collection of cards over time
7 win average per run only 1% player manage to do it.
too much RNG.
drafts random 30 card.
opponent deck
starting hand and card draw.
normal player 99% loses the gold. Or cannot get 7 win.
blizzard dw change because 1% player abuse arena and get all collection without paying single $.
For 9 wins in arena only got 150 g a pack and fucking two commons and they were also horrible
yeah the rewards have been sh it lately, Im pretty sure they changed it to worse...and its not the first time they do this....
i liked arena more when it went up to 9 wins and you got your 150g back at 5 wins, it is such a time waster now...
rewards are fine as is, remember you are only paying 150g and almost always breakeven of 50g + pack if youre a half decent player
if it is, say, 150g reward at 5wins or 6wins, way too many people would get infinite arena runs which results in buying packs totally waste of money
i do get frustrated when a common card pops up as a reward, maybe its likelihood should be reduced indeed
The consensus of this chat seems to be as follows:
-Fuck the 5 gold reward
-Fuck getting random cards as rewards
The other points seem to be up for debate. I get 7+ wins my fair share of the time and I always fear that I'm going to get fucked over by the random reward. I do think the arena system would benefit at least a little bit from having set, or very close to set rewards. There IS a list here: http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Arena Showing the reward structure, with what's guaranteed and what's random. I think it feels a lot more random than it actually is, but the main issue (if there is one) lies in that "random reward" section. at 9 wins you can still just get a common card, which is a complete dick-slap if you get it. I don't think getting a regular common card should be possible at that high.
There are some weird jumps too in gold rewards. At 5 wins you guaranteed get 45-60 gold, 6 wins gets you 75-85, and at 7, 8 AND 9* wins the guaranteed reward is 150-160 (Well 9 wins is 150-165 but still). The Random rewards technically increase though, but it's the variability in these rewards that makes people feel fucked over. Looking just at the extra gold possible, 7 wins get 20-30 (which is fine, sure), 8 wins gets 20-45 (The big difference between 7 and 8 wins though is the fact that you get one extra random reward at 8 wins), and 9 wins is....20-120 gold......I just have to ask, Why? Why is there a 100 gold difference between the lowest and highest at 9 wins? I think most of us would rather have a more conservative range of 50-100 even, so we KNOW getting that extra win will actually matter. This is only one example but it's this kind of randomness that makes arena players feel shitty sometimes.
Overall I do think a more definitive reward system would help it feel better. getting 7 wins should NOT reward more than a 9 win run. It's just common sense really, and if the randomness gets in the way of that, I think there's a problem.
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I agree at high wins golden common card rewards are just shxt. I just had a 12 win run but I only got 245 gold, a pack, a golden common and a golden rare which is pretty shxtty. I never got a single legendary for my high wins reward too. I think most people would rather get more gold to play more arena games or buy packs than getting useless golden cards while they don't even have the whole card collection. They should really reduce the rate you get golden common cards.
Yeah I literally just had a 12 win warlock run and got two golden rares and 260 gold. Doesn't feel good. GETTING the twelve wins felt great but then I got the reward and I just thought "well feels fuckin bad man."
Why does Vicious Fledgling exist
they should make the gold rewards more often than cards or dust. Most people playing arena do it just for that, playing arena, we want gold, not cards or dust. I have full collection and dont even play constructed in years...