Asking for a guy I once knew. This is getting dumb now. Decks are supposed to have strengths AND weaknesses. Even the top tier ones. lets review Warlock decks & their highs & lows:
Strengths/Highs:
Insane card draw
Great removal
Mana cheating
Healing/Armor
The best Titan in the game that ends the game when played, for all intent and purposes.
Great minions
Nice Discovery pool to pick from
Insane synergy with various cards
Doesnt require much thought - roll face on keyboard and you did goody good.
Warlock is strong but not that OP in Standard, check its WR in Twist and Wild. Warlock in Standards gets destroyed by OTK decks like Spells Mage and OTK Shaman.
Warlock is strong but not that OP in Standard, check its WR in Twist and Wild. Warlock in Standards gets destroyed by OTK decks like Spells Mage and OTK Shaman.
Exactly this, also Half of the points the op mentioned arent even halftrue.
Not that I've played endlessly this season, but isn't discolock just a solid deck in twist, while any playable rogue deck is significantly stronger in every metric?
For standard, yes the class feels broken, but its actual win rate isn't very high. I get that a 7/7 rush + 7/7 taunt on turn 4 feels absolutely discussing both ways, but reality is that card games have good draws and bad draws. This is just one of the good ones...
guys its not so much the winrate. It is that it demotivates on lower ranks and makes certain decktypes impossible to play
If you play ranked you submit yourself to survival of the fittest and the Meta game as it warps over time. Thaddius Warlock is good, and Control Warlock is good, but there's like a handful of decks that compete at that level, perhaps as much as a dozen decks that are good and can win their fair share. Unless you are playing Mage I think most classes have options to play something that can win. And honestly Mage has been Meta relevant for so long that it's actually nice to not have them around for a change.
Also, whatever happened to complaining about Hunter? Far as I know Hunter is still the best deck in the game and has been since before Titans launched.
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guys its not so much the winrate. It is that it demotivates on lower ranks and makes certain decktypes impossible to play
And there it is! I knew there were others that "got it". Its rarely ever about the winrate with these degenerate decks. Its always how they cock-block entire archetypes & potentially entire classes from being able to be played. Remember Caverns Below? That crap was the most broken thing ever but it only had like a 45% or even lower win rate. Yet, it made people quit the game. Why? Not the winrate! No, it was because it elminated entire swaths of decks and play styles and forced us all to play mega control decks to stand a chance. There are other examples too but too many people on forums just dont get it.
They throw some random winrate stat they yanked off some chicken-poo website and claim "Itz nut brokinn, git gud". Im glad you get it! :)
This was posted sept 15. AND THEY STILL have not nerfed Sargeras OR discard Warlock. Anyone saying that these are NOT the two strongest decks in wild and standard, are just the exact losers playing these decks to hit legend for the first time in their miserable lives! And it's disgusting! Discard warlock has had a 80% freaking winrate this past week, last time I checked, a deck to have between 60%-67% was on God like status. 80% is just downright the best deck in Hearthstone history, broken beyond recognition. So unfair and advantageous of a deck, that it's a joke and they are a joke to not fix it! And in standard, by far, not EVEN CLOSE, Sargeras is the best card in the entire game. I have conceded 100% of the time after it's played because I have lost hundreds of times and know that a infinite value card played on turn like 3 or 4 is just too broken. The amount of times they play Symphony of sins and get Sargeras at 3 mana is BAFFLING. Both Symphony of Sins and Sargeras don't just need minor nerfs, they need HUGE NERFS. Symphony should cost 7 mana, Sargeras should cost 10 mana, and when they draw their highest cost minion, it should not be reduced in cost, AT ALL. They should be forced to play it at 10 mana, because if they play it at 10 mana they win the game. Also reverberations is broken, the Warlock really needs a priest spell as well? They not only get the strongest titan in the game, they also reverberations YOUR TITAN and get to play BOTH TITANS. Yeah what a joke, please tell me who ever is in controll of making, nerfing, and buffing the cards is not the BIGGEST WARLOCK fan. Huge bias, Warlock is the best class to ever grace this game and I don't even concede after seeing Sargeras or Disco Warlock anymore, I concede to all Warlocks the second I see that I am playing vs a Warlock. Take your free wins you pathetic cowards. Abusing the strongest class, hope you feel good making it to legend with no skill.
Asking for a guy I once knew. This is getting dumb now. Decks are supposed to have strengths AND weaknesses. Even the top tier ones. lets review Warlock decks & their highs & lows:
Strengths/Highs:
Weaknesses/Lows:
You can change the title in : when Warlock will be fixed in standard AND in twist And in Wild
*Laughs in Wild and Twist*
Those standard guys call this broken...
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On a more serious note, I expect balance changes ~2 weeks after the miniset coupled with some stuff for Battleground. Before that - enjoy
Warlock is strong but not that OP in Standard, check its WR in Twist and Wild.
Warlock in Standards gets destroyed by OTK decks like Spells Mage and OTK Shaman.
Exactly this, also Half of the points the op mentioned arent even halftrue.
OP is known for complaining without hsving a clue about the real problems
every post op makes is crap 0/10 nonsense
This guy is known to reply all the time with nothing constructive to add other than defend broken decks since thats all he can win with.
I have never claimed that disco doesn’t need a nerf. It sure does.
the last time you wanted to nerf demon seeds lock though, a tier 3 deck at best.
Disco? Isnt that Wild? Im talking about the Renethal build that has endless everything & then drops the "Game Over" Titan.
Not that I've played endlessly this season, but isn't discolock just a solid deck in twist, while any playable rogue deck is significantly stronger in every metric?
For standard, yes the class feels broken, but its actual win rate isn't very high. I get that a 7/7 rush + 7/7 taunt on turn 4 feels absolutely discussing both ways, but reality is that card games have good draws and bad draws. This is just one of the good ones...
guys its not so much the winrate. It is that it demotivates on lower ranks and makes certain decktypes impossible to play
If you play ranked you submit yourself to survival of the fittest and the Meta game as it warps over time. Thaddius Warlock is good, and Control Warlock is good, but there's like a handful of decks that compete at that level, perhaps as much as a dozen decks that are good and can win their fair share. Unless you are playing Mage I think most classes have options to play something that can win. And honestly Mage has been Meta relevant for so long that it's actually nice to not have them around for a change.
Also, whatever happened to complaining about Hunter? Far as I know Hunter is still the best deck in the game and has been since before Titans launched.
If you see a bad post on the forum use the report function under it, so I or someone else of the moderation team can take care of it!
And there it is! I knew there were others that "got it". Its rarely ever about the winrate with these degenerate decks. Its always how they cock-block entire archetypes & potentially entire classes from being able to be played. Remember Caverns Below? That crap was the most broken thing ever but it only had like a 45% or even lower win rate. Yet, it made people quit the game. Why? Not the winrate! No, it was because it elminated entire swaths of decks and play styles and forced us all to play mega control decks to stand a chance. There are other examples too but too many people on forums just dont get it.
They throw some random winrate stat they yanked off some chicken-poo website and claim "Itz nut brokinn, git gud". Im glad you get it! :)
This was posted sept 15. AND THEY STILL have not nerfed Sargeras OR discard Warlock. Anyone saying that these are NOT the two strongest decks in wild and standard, are just the exact losers playing these decks to hit legend for the first time in their miserable lives! And it's disgusting! Discard warlock has had a 80% freaking winrate this past week, last time I checked, a deck to have between 60%-67% was on God like status. 80% is just downright the best deck in Hearthstone history, broken beyond recognition. So unfair and advantageous of a deck, that it's a joke and they are a joke to not fix it! And in standard, by far, not EVEN CLOSE, Sargeras is the best card in the entire game. I have conceded 100% of the time after it's played because I have lost hundreds of times and know that a infinite value card played on turn like 3 or 4 is just too broken. The amount of times they play Symphony of sins and get Sargeras at 3 mana is BAFFLING. Both Symphony of Sins and Sargeras don't just need minor nerfs, they need HUGE NERFS. Symphony should cost 7 mana, Sargeras should cost 10 mana, and when they draw their highest cost minion, it should not be reduced in cost, AT ALL. They should be forced to play it at 10 mana, because if they play it at 10 mana they win the game. Also reverberations is broken, the Warlock really needs a priest spell as well? They not only get the strongest titan in the game, they also reverberations YOUR TITAN and get to play BOTH TITANS. Yeah what a joke, please tell me who ever is in controll of making, nerfing, and buffing the cards is not the BIGGEST WARLOCK fan. Huge bias, Warlock is the best class to ever grace this game and I don't even concede after seeing Sargeras or Disco Warlock anymore, I concede to all Warlocks the second I see that I am playing vs a Warlock. Take your free wins you pathetic cowards. Abusing the strongest class, hope you feel good making it to legend with no skill.