I finally moved close to legend using Token Druid. At the point when I reached 3 stars Diamond 1, I was confident that I could soon hit legend. Then I went on the worst kind of streak that one could. I lost 12 straight games. That is the dead-ass truth. I tried staying open-minded about my play and my draws but by 6 losses in a row, I was getting tilted. I am pretty sure the back half of that losing streak was ALL me but I just didn't know how to refocus.
I am currently frazzled by that 3-hour losing experience and am not sure how to recover. I went off-meta and tried some other OP decks (Ramp Pally) but I am not playing confidently or comfortably.
If you have been through this and have recovered from this kind of experience, how did you adjust and overcome it? Did you remain loyal to the deck that got you so close?
I've only hit legend three times since I started playing just after Boomsday Project dropped.
I have been right there at the last "boss fight" on rank 1 with full stars many, many times. It never happened that I lost the last fight and then won the next two to make legend; legend was always on a winning streak through rank 1.
On the boss fights I lost (of which there were many), it was always, ALWAYS a big slide way.... back..... down..... before I stopped the skid and started to win again.
What I had to do (and still do) when I hit those big losing streaks is really simple. Just walk away. Turn the game off for a little while. Watch Youtube. Go outside for a bit. Refocus until the tilt dissipates. Do not spend this time rethinking your losses or what you could have done differently, etc. Put Hearthstone far from your mind and truly let the emotion behind the losing streak float away. It will, once you occupy yourself in other ways for a bit.
Bottom line, we've all been there, bud. It sucks, but take a step back for a bit, and come back to it when you're clear. It's a game, and that means it should be fun for you! Don't play stressed, angry, etc.
Also, just as an FYI... the ramp/tip the scales Paladin deck is degenerate. It's what I hit legend my third time a little over a week ago with ;)
You can hit legend with either Ramp Pally or Token Druid. I’d warn against switching frequently... get comfortable with one and grind it. Druid games probably go faster, but you’ll get some insta concedes with the broken Alura turn with your pally, and it is a stronger and more broken deck IMO. Just pick one.
If you play on PC, cover up your rank with a post it note. Don’t put so much pressure on one game. You are in your own head too much. Just keep playing. You got to D1 3 stars... you’re already playing at legend level. You got this...
You can’t drop lower than D5, and have half a month to put some wins together. Try to finish each day a star higher than you were when the day started. Once you have a positive on the day, shut it off and do something else. If you lose 2-3 in a row, put it down and come back later. You’ll get there. Let’s go!
I seem to hit the same wall nearly every month, it's almost like that D1 3 star matchup pulls from an entirely different meta and knocks you back down. Persistence through the month is key and just playing in shorter batches, if you are getting 60% win rates you will get there eventually.
One tip on something that has helped me though, it seems like similar times on similar days (weekday vs weekend) have similar and consistent metas. So if your deck does well early am on the weekdays but then gets crushed after work, try to keep you rank climbing to when you see success with your deck. Or, alternatively try a different deck at those other time slots.
That is solid advice and I can't argue with you about it. I am definitely doing it to myself and should get back to the headspace where I am not angry at the game.
Just don‘t think too much about it. The game is all about percentages, and there are hard counters vs. specific deck archetypes that just don‘t allow you to win often times.
If you encounter a bunch of them in a row it‘s just bad luck. Think of it like roulette. If you bet on red and then the result is black 9 times in a row, it‘s just a rare loss streak. But you can also experience the opposite and make legend so just don‘t give up. It‘s not always missplays and not enough experience which loses you games. Often times it just comes down to matchups.
If you run a murloc deck with strong minion synergy but your opponent is control and disrupts that synergy every turn, theres really nothing you can do about it. You just encountered the counter archetype, control.
The trick is to create a really good aggro deck that has above 50% winrate vs other aggros, because combo is fodder for you and you can rarely beat a deck that fully commits to control style anyways. All these things combined you need to stay above 50% and your good. The rest is decided by your trades, card draw, meta knowledge and matchups.
The thing is, I was playing ladder with my Mage secret deck, in standard was not super popular, but my win % was crazy at some point above 70%, now when I reached diamond 5 I just said enough grinding, let´s enjoy battleground, duels, and memes. I found one article in outofcards, called memes & dreams, explaining a fun paladin deck based on the card Duel!, I start playing just for fun trying to do some memes and shit, the thing is I started winning games like hell, at some point I was Diamond 1 playing that meme, and said hell why not, let get to legend, I switched to mage secret for 2 games and that´s it.
My whole point is, I was kind burned playing mage secred, I was not enjoying anymore grindring for the sake of get legend, I playing for fun, I switched to a super fun deck and meme one, and enjoyed like a baby and winning, if you are not enjoying the game you get frustrated and burned and playing bad just feeling the pressure and stress, now If you are enjoying you play better, in fact I was super focused on every game just trying to play my meme deck and it worked!
The thing is, I was playing ladder with my Mage secret deck, in standard was not super popular, but my win % was crazy at some point above 70%, now when I reached diamond 5 I just said enough grinding, let´s enjoy battleground, duels, and memes. I found one article in outofcards, called memes & dreams, explaining a fun paladin deck based on the card Duel!, I start playing just for fun trying to do some memes and shit, the thing is I started winning games like hell, at some point I was Diamond 1 playing that meme, and said hell why not, let get to legend, I switched to mage secret for 2 games and that´s it.
My whole point is, I was kind burned playing mage secred, I was not enjoying anymore grindring for the sake of get legend, I playing for fun, I switched to a super fun deck and meme one, and enjoyed like a baby and winning, if you are not enjoying the game you get frustrated and burned and playing bad just feeling the pressure and stress, now If you are enjoying you play better, in fact I was super focused on every game just trying to play my meme deck and it worked!
Literally this!
Playing something else (format, mode, deck, with friends) or nothing for some time helps tremendously. Just always tell yourself that the legend rank is ONLY 1 EXTRA PACK! (and a not very pretty card back, if you never reached it before). You can do it this month, next month, or whenever you feel comfortable and the world won't end if you can't get there.
I usually stop at D5 because there is only 1 star per win, but I have been legend rank in both the old and the new version at least once. The old ladder was an insane grind, I can tell you. I think I had like 170 more wins in one month and the last 3 levels took like 1 week (I did it with Zoolock back in the days of Mysterious Challenger). I still need to do it in Standard, though, so I might try that at some point. Or reach legend in both formats in one month just for the feeling that I can do it.
You know, even in wild, where I have the best two decks in the format and am at 73% and 85% winrate over several weeks/months of gameplay, I just don't care enough to hunt for this one pack. I could easily do it with both decks, I know them and the meta by heart, but is it worth the heart attack? If you are good in other modes, one pack doesn't mean too much work anyway.
The first time I hit legend, I was rank 2 with 4 stars (old system, obv) and then proceeded to lose my way back to rank 5. Every deck was a counter, or I drew terribly. I lost maybe 13 of 15 or such.
Then a week later, I won 19 of 22 with same deck and hit legend -- I was playing against decks where my deck had a favorable matchup a lot.
It just happens.
Consequentially, after not playing rank since November 2019 when Battlegrounds came out, I played some standard this month mostly with Ramp Paladin.
After hitting Diamond 5, I crafted a number of different decks for different classes that seemed like fun (if you only play Battlegrounds, you accumulate tons of gold because you can't really use it on anything).
I made a silly "Well It's A Deck" Hunter that just has fun cards in it and I'm at Diamond 1 now just playing a fun deck. I think my deck being so weird makes it very hard to counter. And maybe also because I haven't run into any Paladins but mostly decks that counter Paladins and an explosive trap really screws up Rogue.
I've only made legend twice - in December of last year and January of this year. In December I was playing Zoo when nobody else was and in January I played Highlander Paladin. Both tempo oriented decks that are awkward to deal with that people didn't have experience playing against and I cruised to legend. Not sure there's anything really like that, now, particularly since Cheese Paladin warped the meta and tempo decks can't keep up with aggro Rogue.
Point is, in order to get to legend you need to either 1) get lucky, 2) play a deck that can handle the entire meta or 3) grind T1/T2 decks with a >50% WR.
I had a somewhat similar experience lately when I climbed from Platinum to Diamond with my Pure Paladin deck.
I went from 28-13 in Platinum to 10-18 in Diamond until I got frustrated and stopped. Was wondering whether the opponents were that much stronger (the difference felt a little bit too drastic) or the meta had shifted that much to my disadvantage or I was just going from a lucky streak to an unlucky one.
I guess that's just the way it goes for the relatively low number of games a more or less casual player makes per week. Sometimes the variance is heavily in your favour, sometimes it goes the other way round.
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I finally moved close to legend using Token Druid. At the point when I reached 3 stars Diamond 1, I was confident that I could soon hit legend. Then I went on the worst kind of streak that one could. I lost 12 straight games. That is the dead-ass truth. I tried staying open-minded about my play and my draws but by 6 losses in a row, I was getting tilted. I am pretty sure the back half of that losing streak was ALL me but I just didn't know how to refocus.
I am currently frazzled by that 3-hour losing experience and am not sure how to recover. I went off-meta and tried some other OP decks (Ramp Pally) but I am not playing confidently or comfortably.
If you have been through this and have recovered from this kind of experience, how did you adjust and overcome it? Did you remain loyal to the deck that got you so close?
I've only hit legend three times since I started playing just after Boomsday Project dropped.
I have been right there at the last "boss fight" on rank 1 with full stars many, many times. It never happened that I lost the last fight and then won the next two to make legend; legend was always on a winning streak through rank 1.
On the boss fights I lost (of which there were many), it was always, ALWAYS a big slide way.... back..... down..... before I stopped the skid and started to win again.
What I had to do (and still do) when I hit those big losing streaks is really simple. Just walk away. Turn the game off for a little while. Watch Youtube. Go outside for a bit. Refocus until the tilt dissipates. Do not spend this time rethinking your losses or what you could have done differently, etc. Put Hearthstone far from your mind and truly let the emotion behind the losing streak float away. It will, once you occupy yourself in other ways for a bit.
Bottom line, we've all been there, bud. It sucks, but take a step back for a bit, and come back to it when you're clear. It's a game, and that means it should be fun for you! Don't play stressed, angry, etc.
Also, just as an FYI... the ramp/tip the scales Paladin deck is degenerate. It's what I hit legend my third time a little over a week ago with ;)
stick to your original deck,
when you loose 3 games in a row, take a break.
if you get tilted get some refreshments
if you feel like you hit a brick wall, take some time of and play another game, something less toxic like league of legends ( :P )
you can make it, dont force it!
To live is to suffer, to survive is to find meaning in the suffer!
You can hit legend with either Ramp Pally or Token Druid. I’d warn against switching frequently... get comfortable with one and grind it. Druid games probably go faster, but you’ll get some insta concedes with the broken Alura turn with your pally, and it is a stronger and more broken deck IMO. Just pick one.
If you play on PC, cover up your rank with a post it note. Don’t put so much pressure on one game. You are in your own head too much. Just keep playing. You got to D1 3 stars... you’re already playing at legend level. You got this...
You can’t drop lower than D5, and have half a month to put some wins together. Try to finish each day a star higher than you were when the day started. Once you have a positive on the day, shut it off and do something else. If you lose 2-3 in a row, put it down and come back later. You’ll get there. Let’s go!
I seem to hit the same wall nearly every month, it's almost like that D1 3 star matchup pulls from an entirely different meta and knocks you back down. Persistence through the month is key and just playing in shorter batches, if you are getting 60% win rates you will get there eventually.
One tip on something that has helped me though, it seems like similar times on similar days (weekday vs weekend) have similar and consistent metas. So if your deck does well early am on the weekdays but then gets crushed after work, try to keep you rank climbing to when you see success with your deck. Or, alternatively try a different deck at those other time slots.
Thanks
That is solid advice and I can't argue with you about it. I am definitely doing it to myself and should get back to the headspace where I am not angry at the game.
I will remember your 3 games in a row advice. That's probably where I should have stopped and I tried to force it.
Thank you everyone for the advice. I definitely want to be in a stress-free place where I love the game first and foremost.
Just play Unerfed Paladin, Unerfed mage, Unerfed warlock and you will get there ez
Just highroll like the rest of them. It's all about the rng bro.
I can't reach Legend since last June, so Diamond 1 three starts seems fine for me.
Wow do you think care 10-1 and still on 3 lol,blessings to you
I only managed to get diamond 2 and was so bored of playing the same few decks over and over..
good luck, you'll get there!
golden advise from which point you look at it ....rofl
and enraged Tikatus is hiding in the shadows.
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Just don‘t think too much about it. The game is all about percentages, and there are hard counters vs. specific deck archetypes that just don‘t allow you to win often times.
If you encounter a bunch of them in a row it‘s just bad luck. Think of it like roulette. If you bet on red and then the result is black 9 times in a row, it‘s just a rare loss streak. But you can also experience the opposite and make legend so just don‘t give up. It‘s not always missplays and not enough experience which loses you games. Often times it just comes down to matchups.
If you run a murloc deck with strong minion synergy but your opponent is control and disrupts that synergy every turn, theres really nothing you can do about it. You just encountered the counter archetype, control.
The trick is to create a really good aggro deck that has above 50% winrate vs other aggros, because combo is fodder for you and you can rarely beat a deck that fully commits to control style anyways. All these things combined you need to stay above 50% and your good. The rest is decided by your trades, card draw, meta knowledge and matchups.
Look, last month i hit legend without wanting it.
The thing is, I was playing ladder with my Mage secret deck, in standard was not super popular, but my win % was crazy at some point above 70%, now when I reached diamond 5 I just said enough grinding, let´s enjoy battleground, duels, and memes. I found one article in outofcards, called memes & dreams, explaining a fun paladin deck based on the card Duel!, I start playing just for fun trying to do some memes and shit, the thing is I started winning games like hell, at some point I was Diamond 1 playing that meme, and said hell why not, let get to legend, I switched to mage secret for 2 games and that´s it.
My whole point is, I was kind burned playing mage secred, I was not enjoying anymore grindring for the sake of get legend, I playing for fun, I switched to a super fun deck and meme one, and enjoyed like a baby and winning, if you are not enjoying the game you get frustrated and burned and playing bad just feeling the pressure and stress, now If you are enjoying you play better, in fact I was super focused on every game just trying to play my meme deck and it worked!
Literally this!
Playing something else (format, mode, deck, with friends) or nothing for some time helps tremendously. Just always tell yourself that the legend rank is ONLY 1 EXTRA PACK! (and a not very pretty card back, if you never reached it before). You can do it this month, next month, or whenever you feel comfortable and the world won't end if you can't get there.
I usually stop at D5 because there is only 1 star per win, but I have been legend rank in both the old and the new version at least once. The old ladder was an insane grind, I can tell you. I think I had like 170 more wins in one month and the last 3 levels took like 1 week (I did it with Zoolock back in the days of Mysterious Challenger). I still need to do it in Standard, though, so I might try that at some point. Or reach legend in both formats in one month just for the feeling that I can do it.
You know, even in wild, where I have the best two decks in the format and am at 73% and 85% winrate over several weeks/months of gameplay, I just don't care enough to hunt for this one pack. I could easily do it with both decks, I know them and the meta by heart, but is it worth the heart attack? If you are good in other modes, one pack doesn't mean too much work anyway.
The first time I hit legend, I was rank 2 with 4 stars (old system, obv) and then proceeded to lose my way back to rank 5. Every deck was a counter, or I drew terribly. I lost maybe 13 of 15 or such.
Then a week later, I won 19 of 22 with same deck and hit legend -- I was playing against decks where my deck had a favorable matchup a lot.
It just happens.
Consequentially, after not playing rank since November 2019 when Battlegrounds came out, I played some standard this month mostly with Ramp Paladin.
After hitting Diamond 5, I crafted a number of different decks for different classes that seemed like fun (if you only play Battlegrounds, you accumulate tons of gold because you can't really use it on anything).
I made a silly "Well It's A Deck" Hunter that just has fun cards in it and I'm at Diamond 1 now just playing a fun deck. I think my deck being so weird makes it very hard to counter. And maybe also because I haven't run into any Paladins but mostly decks that counter Paladins and an explosive trap really screws up Rogue.
I've only made legend twice - in December of last year and January of this year. In December I was playing Zoo when nobody else was and in January I played Highlander Paladin. Both tempo oriented decks that are awkward to deal with that people didn't have experience playing against and I cruised to legend. Not sure there's anything really like that, now, particularly since Cheese Paladin warped the meta and tempo decks can't keep up with aggro Rogue.
Point is, in order to get to legend you need to either 1) get lucky, 2) play a deck that can handle the entire meta or 3) grind T1/T2 decks with a >50% WR.
I had a somewhat similar experience lately when I climbed from Platinum to Diamond with my Pure Paladin deck.
I went from 28-13 in Platinum to 10-18 in Diamond until I got frustrated and stopped. Was wondering whether the opponents were that much stronger (the difference felt a little bit too drastic) or the meta had shifted that much to my disadvantage or I was just going from a lucky streak to an unlucky one.
I guess that's just the way it goes for the relatively low number of games a more or less casual player makes per week. Sometimes the variance is heavily in your favour, sometimes it goes the other way round.
Ceterum censeo classum magi esse delendam.