Hi everyone. I'm a Pure Paladin main and I have a question about general strategy against those greedy control decks, especially Control Warlock or Big Priest. In general I feel quite comfortable with my deck and have understood most interactions. I probably make some mistakes still, but I'm not a total noob either.
When I look at stats from HSReplay for example, those decks seem to be the tougher matchups naturally, but I still feel like I'm getting roasted more than I should by these decks in particular. I've tried different approaches, take them down as fast as possible or try to outlast/outtempo them later, when I've discounted my librams and can use Liadrin, but nothing seems to work at least somewhat consistently. They have so much hard removal and/or endless value generation that it feels like the decisions I make don't matter. Whenever I manage to scoop a win, it feels random and unexpected. If I try to play around something, it doesn't work out as I expected. When I play too aggressive, I'm left with no impactful minions midgame, because they can easily remove my first few waves. When I do the opposite, I have the problem that I can't create a wide board to play around somethin like Convincing Infiltrator or Cascading Desaster, since that's not really the forte of my deck.
Any advice? Are their some weaknesses of those decks I might not be aware of?
Push face and force them to use resources aka play their game in terms of greeding, also when youre in near lethal situation, you just need one good counterplay to win the game so you need to be able to properly predict few turns ahead. Thats pretty much it, if they have BenBrode hand (perfect first 10 cards), theres really nothing much you can do about that.
I play Control Warlock and I can say that Pure Paladin seems to do better against me when it doesn't dump resources. Control Warlock has MANY board clears, so try to make them use them as inefficiently as possible.
Yeah, I feared the answers would be something like that. Unfortunately that's something I really don't like. I like arena-like matchups, where board state matters. Just pushing any face damage i can bores me. Too bad HS has this uninteractive meta, where unit stats are basically meaningless, unless you're either hyper-aggro or you can cheat them out abundandtly. I feel like that's getting worse and worse.
Guess I have to figure out whether I will just play more arena or go with the flow. Anyway, thank you both for the replies.
Well idk what are you expecting from these kind of matchups, in the end both warlock and priest will outsource you if you play passively like that. I dont quite get that mindset either, youre competing against other player, if youre into just board-clearing or arena style of playing id suggest you move over to battlegrounds. Also im getting these vibes that you dont know or cant grasp concept of value trading.
Well idk what are you expecting from these kind of matchups, in the end both warlock and priest will outsource you if you play passively like that. I dont quite get that mindset either, youre competing against other player, if youre into just board-clearing or arena style of playing id suggest you move over to battlegrounds. Also im getting these vibes that you dont know or cant grasp concept of value trading.
The remark you're probably referring to is not about these specific matchups. I know that outvalueing the opponent is a key part of such control decks (or more like it, any control deck). I'm not too happy about the way this is implemented in the current HS meta though.
It just seems boring to me that quite many decks rarely play more than like 2 minions in the first 8 turns. (Maybe I'm exaggerating a bit here.)
You know, I wish I had the option more often to value trade or go face. Such that I can atively make a decision, may it be wrong or false.
I play Control Warlock and I can say that Pure Paladin seems to do better against me when it doesn't dump resources. Control Warlock has MANY board clears, so try to make them use them as inefficiently as possible.
When I tried that I mostly got stomped by Tickatus and/or the Primes from Rustwix. But thanks for your insight from the opposite view. Who knows, maybe I got unlucky or just didn't do it right.
Hi everyone. I'm a Pure Paladin main and I have a question about general strategy against those greedy control decks, especially Control Warlock or Big Priest. In general I feel quite comfortable with my deck and have understood most interactions. I probably make some mistakes still, but I'm not a total noob either.
When I look at stats from HSReplay for example, those decks seem to be the tougher matchups naturally, but I still feel like I'm getting roasted more than I should by these decks in particular. I've tried different approaches, take them down as fast as possible or try to outlast/outtempo them later, when I've discounted my librams and can use Liadrin, but nothing seems to work at least somewhat consistently. They have so much hard removal and/or endless value generation that it feels like the decisions I make don't matter. Whenever I manage to scoop a win, it feels random and unexpected. If I try to play around something, it doesn't work out as I expected. When I play too aggressive, I'm left with no impactful minions midgame, because they can easily remove my first few waves. When I do the opposite, I have the problem that I can't create a wide board to play around somethin like Convincing Infiltrator or Cascading Desaster, since that's not really the forte of my deck.
Any advice? Are their some weaknesses of those decks I might not be aware of?
Ceterum censeo classum magi esse delendam.
Push face and force them to use resources aka play their game in terms of greeding, also when youre in near lethal situation, you just need one good counterplay to win the game so you need to be able to properly predict few turns ahead. Thats pretty much it, if they have BenBrode hand (perfect first 10 cards), theres really nothing much you can do about that.
1:Go face.
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I play Control Warlock and I can say that Pure Paladin seems to do better against me when it doesn't dump resources. Control Warlock has MANY board clears, so try to make them use them as inefficiently as possible.
Yeah, I feared the answers would be something like that. Unfortunately that's something I really don't like. I like arena-like matchups, where board state matters. Just pushing any face damage i can bores me. Too bad HS has this uninteractive meta, where unit stats are basically meaningless, unless you're either hyper-aggro or you can cheat them out abundandtly. I feel like that's getting worse and worse.
Guess I have to figure out whether I will just play more arena or go with the flow. Anyway, thank you both for the replies.
Ceterum censeo classum magi esse delendam.
Well idk what are you expecting from these kind of matchups, in the end both warlock and priest will outsource you if you play passively like that. I dont quite get that mindset either, youre competing against other player, if youre into just board-clearing or arena style of playing id suggest you move over to battlegrounds. Also im getting these vibes that you dont know or cant grasp concept of value trading.
The remark you're probably referring to is not about these specific matchups. I know that outvalueing the opponent is a key part of such control decks (or more like it, any control deck). I'm not too happy about the way this is implemented in the current HS meta though.
It just seems boring to me that quite many decks rarely play more than like 2 minions in the first 8 turns. (Maybe I'm exaggerating a bit here.)
You know, I wish I had the option more often to value trade or go face. Such that I can atively make a decision, may it be wrong or false.
When I tried that I mostly got stomped by Tickatus and/or the Primes from Rustwix. But thanks for your insight from the opposite view. Who knows, maybe I got unlucky or just didn't do it right.
Ceterum censeo classum magi esse delendam.
I always found if the paladin pushes damage output, they tend to get close to a win or win outright against me playing control warlock.
Face decks. There’s also tick...