I'd like to get your help... I enjoyed this game a long time ago, but I also stopped enjoying it a long time ago. Many of the changes over the last years just downgraded it for me... but I came back to it every few months... because I've never reacher the Legend rank.
Most people don't care about, simply because it becomes "just another random useless rank" after reaching it once, but it feels incomplete for me. If I can't even reach this simple and useless goal, all the time I've ever spent playing this stupid game without fun will feel even more useless. Consider it my 'cigarette after'.
Somehow I can't reach Legend, even though I consider myself 'good enough'. Between (current system) Dia 3 and Dia 1, I will simply run into stuff that counters me hard, all the time, or I will have the worst draw possible. With every deck. Usually I'd tell people "you'd likely get nervous and make stupid mistakes/tilt", but I stopped to even feel "hope" long ago. It feels like a foregone conclusion that I will run into hardcounters and/or will simply have only dead cards.
Anyway... I want this waste of (life) time to be over with.
If I were to dust all my cards, I'd most likely be able to create every deck, excluding the most expensive all-legend/super expensive highlander decks. So I theoretically should be able to get around 15k dust.
I want a clean ride to Legend and then click the uninstall button. Ideally before next year.
I can only imagine how great it would feel to start a "clean 2021", without playing this addicting abomination of a time waster.
So what's in for the people who help you - wasting their time...
In the end you have to get there yourself, otherwise what would it mean to you? If you hate the game, just let it be.
Let's play "spot the blizzard employee that wants to keep me wasting my time".
Joke aside: I don't know what a potential helper would get out of it. Probably the same as he/she/it would get out of replying to other threads in a forum. An exchange of opinions? Elation due to helping out somebody? A circlejerk?
At least for me the game stopped being fun and it became a huge waste of time. I want to get it over with. For people who still enjoy this game, it shouldn't be a waste of time. Right? Even though there is most likely better stuff to do with their life, as long they enjoy it more than the other stuff, at least it won't feel like "wasted time" for them... Because when we 'really' go down the "wasting time"-rabbit hole, we'd have to ask for the meaning-of-life... which arguably is a little bit to heavy for this topic on hand.
Topic on hand: me reaching legend in standard and getting over HS.
truly and honestly, you need to use a deck that you know very very very VERY well, that you can pilot in any situation. that's gonna be different for everyone, so no one can *help* you in that respect. so ask yourself, what's a class you enjoy that you know you can win with? unfortunately in the current meta, some classes are... not very good, so that sucks. but, for example, i think most rogue and warrior decks can a) counter shaman and b) get you to legend this season. OR you can just play evolve shaman like every one else and reach legend that way. the past two seasons, i played rogue to get to legend, so i can assure you that's probably the best way to go.
holy shit you need to find some self esteem for yourself. if it's important for you to reach legend for this game after admitting that you don't even enjoy playing it anymore in an effort to try and weirdly justify to yourself the time you already spent on it....well then you definitely have overarching issues in your life that go well beyond hearthstone and I suggest you start there.
Eh. Previous month I crafted agro druid for wild (I had only Pathces missing). The deck is super strong and ridiculously fast. Reached platinum 3 at winstreak, then stopped. Game mostly ends in 2-3 turns, but can last a little longer.
P.S: prev season reached wild legend with agro druid. Mostly i would not do it, but in achievements section i had missing achievement for wild legend (however, i did that many times many seasons ago)...
One choice that can make a bigger difference than you might expect is when you play. Try different times of the day, determine when it felt easier and then the next day only play on that time.
100% feel your pain buddy. Played HS since 2014 on and off. Always got close to legend but never quite made it due to a bunch of shit always at the last boss etc. Uninstalled many times, dusted inordinate amount of cards but kept coming back at start of most new expansions.
Frustratingly couldn't quit until I got that damn card back. Was like an itch I couldn't quite scratch. Sounds ludicrous when look back. Utterly stupid. But the feeling i finally got after HL Hunter did the business for me was amazing.
I got what I wanted from this bastard game and no fucks given as to what anyone else said.
Hang in there. It will happen. I'm a textbook example.
I highly recommend holding off on dusting the majority of your collection. Once you achieve your goal, by all means take a sabbatical from the game but if you ever want to come back, you'll have most of your cards waiting for you. If you don't come back then it won't matter anyway.
I'd also recommend taking the path of least resistance to legend since that's your main priority. By this I mean using a deck that is very easy to play yet effective at winning. Generally speaking, this usually means aggro decks. There's a pretty good warlock aggro deck right now, hunter is always a good choice and I've been trying out A DH aggro deck lately to counter shaman with positive results. Here's the deck if you'd like to try it out.
Somehow I can't reach Legend, even though I consider myself 'good enough'. Between (current system) Dia 3 and Dia 1, I will simply run into stuff that counters me hard, all the time, or I will have the worst draw possible. With every deck. Usually I'd tell people "you'd likely get nervous and make stupid mistakes/tilt", but I stopped to even feel "hope" long ago. It feels like a foregone conclusion that I will run into hardcounters and/or will simply have only dead cards.
Tilt is literally exactly what you are describing. If you feel like you’ve lost before you start, you will think your plays through with emotion and not with logic. You will miss simple combos because the cards don’t look impactful by themselves at first glance, and you’ll just pass you turn out of frustration when you actually had a clever play available. You’ll play minions out onto the board in matchups where you should hold them, or waste removal on minor threats only to lose to major ones because you feel like just once, things should line up for you like they always line up for your opponents. Now apply logic to these scenarios; Sometimes your opponent will nut hand you, sometimes your opening hand will cost upwards of 30 mana. Sometimes both. This happens. There will also be equally frequent games where your opponent doesn’t stand a chance, but in the vast majority of games, both players will have marginal hands, and over a large sample size the player who utilises their marginal/poor hands better will win more games.
Don’t look at every single game as a must win, because that’s not how CCGs work. Instead aim to play each game optimally, that’s the only thing you can control once the decks are shuffled. Look at it in terms of whats actually required to reach your goal. Let’s say you are Diamond 1 with 0 stars 2 weeks into the season. You literally have the rest of the month to go +4 Wins vs Losses. Ignore the games you get sacked and die on turn 5. Ignore the games you draw the god hand yourself and your opponent concedes before they even play a card. Just focus on playing the best you can in the average games.
Definitely seek to learn from streamers who use whatever deck you choose to climb with, because a horrible, horrible misconception is that hearthstone is a super simple game and the optimal plays are extremely obvious. A lot of the time they can be, but oftentimes they are not, and the obvious play would get 99% of the player base killed, while spotting the hidden play leads to a win several turns later for the more skilful player. This is the difference between hitting legend and dropping back to Diamond 1, 2 stars. The rope is there for a reason - use it - when you see the play that looks correct but there’s still 50 seconds on the clock, sit and think about the situation, And about your opponent’s deck. What are their standard plays over the next few turns? Is it worth deviating from your game plan to throw a wrench in theirs? Very often, messing with your opponents key turns is more important than hitting your own, and sometimes you may spot an opportunity to disrupt their strategy while developing your own.
Somehow I can't reach Legend, even though I consider myself 'good enough'. Between (current system) Dia 3 and Dia 1, I will simply run into stuff that counters me hard, all the time, or I will have the worst draw possible. With every deck. Usually I'd tell people "you'd likely get nervous and make stupid mistakes/tilt", but I stopped to even feel "hope" long ago. It feels like a foregone conclusion that I will run into hardcounters and/or will simply have only dead cards.
Tilt is literally exactly what you are describing. If you feel like you’ve lost before you start, you will think your plays through with emotion and not with logic. You will miss simple combos because the cards don’t look impactful by themselves at first glance, and you’ll just pass you turn out of frustration when you actually had a clever play available. You’ll play minions out onto the board in matchups where you should hold them, or waste removal on minor threats only to lose to major ones because you feel like just once, things should line up for you like they always line up for your opponents. Now apply logic to these scenarios; Sometimes your opponent will nut hand you, sometimes your opening hand will cost upwards of 30 mana. Sometimes both. These are not always guaranteed losses anyway and some can be turned around, but in the vast majority of games, both players will have marginal hands and over a large sample size, the player who utilises their marginal/poor hands better will win more games. Don’t look at every single game as a must win, because that’s not how CCGs work. Look at in in terms of hats actually required to reach your goal. Let’s say you are Diamond 1 with 0 stars 2 weeks into the season. You literally have the rest of the month to go +4 Wins vs losses. Ignore the games you get sacked and die on turn 5, ignore the games you draw the god hand and your opponent concedes before they can play a card, just focus on playing the best you can in the average games. Definitely seek to learn from streamers who use whatever deck you choose to climb with, because a horrible, horrible misconception is that hearthstone is a super simple game and the optimal plays are extremely obvious. A lot of the time they can be, but oftentimes they are not, and the obvious play would get 99% of the player base killed, while spotting the hidden play leads to a win several turns later for the more skilful player. This is the difference between hitting legend and dropping back to Diamond 1, 2 stars.
Wow that's an incredibly thoughtful reply to this. I encourage OP to read this word for word. I haven't gotten to legend either, but also don't really care all that much.. hope you feel better about it, and hope this game doesn't continue to bog you down so much in the future. Life is short
Last 3 seasons i have reached legend with pure paly. but this deck is not easy to play when u dont know it card by card really well. also using rng outcomes from some cards is really important. dusting all cards is useless. you can reach legend with every deck that have more than 51% winrate. it just matters the time you are willing to spend. for ex. playing face hunter without epics and legend´s can bring you to legend in same time like playing highlander warrior. just because face hunter match take like 3 minutes and highlander warrior can have 30 minutes per match. if the highlander deck wins 60% of fights and you win 52% u will be faster in legend. And try it in standart. wild is way more harder than standart to reach legend. prediction of enemy turns and cards is also fine. knowing enemy deck also makes a lot. and then u need something i call the lucky package. every day i open the game my lucky package will open or either stay closed and u know what i mean by saying stay closed. if you loose like 4 games in a row take a break , make coffee . and if you really need to think about turns do it the same way like streamers do, speak ( with yourself - nothing weird just do it)
and stop watching streamers if you wanna be good. they have chat full of people who watch the same game in real time so they have like thousands of helpers and if streamer dont see a lethal someone from chat see it. their 80% winrate decks are just lie. every deck after 1000 games ends up to max. 61%
i have played 22xxx games and i was in legend many times. not a pro, not a streamer. It is not hard goal. Good luck
I wasn't playing HS for two years almost (multiple legend before that).
I startrd last week of December without knowing anything about new keywords and stuff. Got to platinum 4 in few days with Pure Pala.
Got to legend first week in January with Gala Warlock adjusted slightly to meta (meaning I was beating evolve shamans pre nerf).
It is not that hard. You just need brainz a little and not just blindly copy paste net deck. I used Warlock with that 6 mana sticky healing minion, 7 mana choose 2 abilities legendary and 2 doomsayers to prevent evolve shaman, aggro and big minioj decks to play after cleaning boards so I can play tickatus. I cut out that 4 mana epic which draws 4 cards (it was always dead card in most of matches) used that 7 mana legendary draw 4 cards.
But for some reason legend rank is full of braindead aggro decks tryharding instead of players enjoying custom decks and Warlock has no use there, so I switched to control priest and control warrior and I am eating all those zoolocks and demon hunters and OTK decks for breakfast.
Just play, use brain and tech in cards to adjust to meta.
Hello,
I'd like to get your help... I enjoyed this game a long time ago, but I also stopped enjoying it a long time ago. Many of the changes over the last years just downgraded it for me... but I came back to it every few months... because I've never reacher the Legend rank.
Most people don't care about, simply because it becomes "just another random useless rank" after reaching it once, but it feels incomplete for me. If I can't even reach this simple and useless goal, all the time I've ever spent playing this stupid game without fun will feel even more useless. Consider it my 'cigarette after'.
Somehow I can't reach Legend, even though I consider myself 'good enough'. Between (current system) Dia 3 and Dia 1, I will simply run into stuff that counters me hard, all the time, or I will have the worst draw possible. With every deck. Usually I'd tell people "you'd likely get nervous and make stupid mistakes/tilt", but I stopped to even feel "hope" long ago. It feels like a foregone conclusion that I will run into hardcounters and/or will simply have only dead cards.
Anyway... I want this waste of (life) time to be over with.
If I were to dust all my cards, I'd most likely be able to create every deck, excluding the most expensive all-legend/super expensive highlander decks. So I theoretically should be able to get around 15k dust.
I want a clean ride to Legend and then click the uninstall button. Ideally before next year.
I can only imagine how great it would feel to start a "clean 2021", without playing this addicting abomination of a time waster.
Thank you for reading and hopefully your help.
So what's in for the people who help you - wasting their time...
In the end you have to get there yourself, otherwise what would it mean to you? If you hate the game, just let it be.
Let's play "spot the blizzard employee that wants to keep me wasting my time".
Joke aside: I don't know what a potential helper would get out of it. Probably the same as he/she/it would get out of replying to other threads in a forum. An exchange of opinions? Elation due to helping out somebody? A circlejerk?
At least for me the game stopped being fun and it became a huge waste of time. I want to get it over with. For people who still enjoy this game, it shouldn't be a waste of time. Right? Even though there is most likely better stuff to do with their life, as long they enjoy it more than the other stuff, at least it won't feel like "wasted time" for them... Because when we 'really' go down the "wasting time"-rabbit hole, we'd have to ask for the meaning-of-life... which arguably is a little bit to heavy for this topic on hand.
Topic on hand: me reaching legend in standard and getting over HS.
Thanks.
truly and honestly, you need to use a deck that you know very very very VERY well, that you can pilot in any situation. that's gonna be different for everyone, so no one can *help* you in that respect. so ask yourself, what's a class you enjoy that you know you can win with? unfortunately in the current meta, some classes are... not very good, so that sucks. but, for example, i think most rogue and warrior decks can a) counter shaman and b) get you to legend this season. OR you can just play evolve shaman like every one else and reach legend that way. the past two seasons, i played rogue to get to legend, so i can assure you that's probably the best way to go.
If you pay well, sure. Otherwise, it looks like you are just trying to get to legend for free.
It takes time to get there, and time is money, why would one waste their own time for you?
You don't have enough time left in this season. Jan 1st, 2021, put together this deck and you will reach legend with it.
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/decks/coaster-evolve-shaman-4/
holy shit you need to find some self esteem for yourself. if it's important for you to reach legend for this game after admitting that you don't even enjoy playing it anymore in an effort to try and weirdly justify to yourself the time you already spent on it....well then you definitely have overarching issues in your life that go well beyond hearthstone and I suggest you start there.
Eh. Previous month I crafted agro druid for wild (I had only Pathces missing). The deck is super strong and ridiculously fast. Reached platinum 3 at winstreak, then stopped. Game mostly ends in 2-3 turns, but can last a little longer.
P.S: prev season reached wild legend with agro druid. Mostly i would not do it, but in achievements section i had missing achievement for wild legend (however, i did that many times many seasons ago)...
Not platinum, but diamond (rank before legend)
Consider that reaching legend may get you hooked again.
Take a walk on the wild side...
One choice that can make a bigger difference than you might expect is when you play. Try different times of the day, determine when it felt easier and then the next day only play on that time.
Hi,
100% feel your pain buddy. Played HS since 2014 on and off. Always got close to legend but never quite made it due to a bunch of shit always at the last boss etc. Uninstalled many times, dusted inordinate amount of cards but kept coming back at start of most new expansions.
Frustratingly couldn't quit until I got that damn card back. Was like an itch I couldn't quite scratch. Sounds ludicrous when look back. Utterly stupid. But the feeling i finally got after HL Hunter did the business for me was amazing.
I got what I wanted from this bastard game and no fucks given as to what anyone else said.
Hang in there. It will happen. I'm a textbook example.
Good luck.
EU or NA?
Two things.
Good luck.
Tilt is literally exactly what you are describing. If you feel like you’ve lost before you start, you will think your plays through with emotion and not with logic. You will miss simple combos because the cards don’t look impactful by themselves at first glance, and you’ll just pass you turn out of frustration when you actually had a clever play available. You’ll play minions out onto the board in matchups where you should hold them, or waste removal on minor threats only to lose to major ones because you feel like just once, things should line up for you like they always line up for your opponents. Now apply logic to these scenarios; Sometimes your opponent will nut hand you, sometimes your opening hand will cost upwards of 30 mana. Sometimes both. This happens. There will also be equally frequent games where your opponent doesn’t stand a chance, but in the vast majority of games, both players will have marginal hands, and over a large sample size the player who utilises their marginal/poor hands better will win more games.
Don’t look at every single game as a must win, because that’s not how CCGs work. Instead aim to play each game optimally, that’s the only thing you can control once the decks are shuffled. Look at it in terms of whats actually required to reach your goal. Let’s say you are Diamond 1 with 0 stars 2 weeks into the season. You literally have the rest of the month to go +4 Wins vs Losses. Ignore the games you get sacked and die on turn 5. Ignore the games you draw the god hand yourself and your opponent concedes before they even play a card. Just focus on playing the best you can in the average games.
Definitely seek to learn from streamers who use whatever deck you choose to climb with, because a horrible, horrible misconception is that hearthstone is a super simple game and the optimal plays are extremely obvious. A lot of the time they can be, but oftentimes they are not, and the obvious play would get 99% of the player base killed, while spotting the hidden play leads to a win several turns later for the more skilful player. This is the difference between hitting legend and dropping back to Diamond 1, 2 stars. The rope is there for a reason - use it - when you see the play that looks correct but there’s still 50 seconds on the clock, sit and think about the situation, And about your opponent’s deck. What are their standard plays over the next few turns? Is it worth deviating from your game plan to throw a wrench in theirs? Very often, messing with your opponents key turns is more important than hitting your own, and sometimes you may spot an opportunity to disrupt their strategy while developing your own.
Wow that's an incredibly thoughtful reply to this. I encourage OP to read this word for word. I haven't gotten to legend either, but also don't really care all that much.. hope you feel better about it, and hope this game doesn't continue to bog you down so much in the future. Life is short
I hit legend today 1st time after 3 years of ''work'' on it and the feeling is like a hardore orgasm.
Work on it and you get it good luck and have fun with the game :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Last 3 seasons i have reached legend with pure paly. but this deck is not easy to play when u dont know it card by card really well. also using rng outcomes from some cards is really important. dusting all cards is useless. you can reach legend with every deck that have more than 51% winrate. it just matters the time you are willing to spend. for ex. playing face hunter without epics and legend´s can bring you to legend in same time like playing highlander warrior. just because face hunter match take like 3 minutes and highlander warrior can have 30 minutes per match. if the highlander deck wins 60% of fights and you win 52% u will be faster in legend. And try it in standart. wild is way more harder than standart to reach legend. prediction of enemy turns and cards is also fine. knowing enemy deck also makes a lot. and then u need something i call the lucky package. every day i open the game my lucky package will open or either stay closed and u know what i mean by saying stay closed. if you loose like 4 games in a row take a break , make coffee . and if you really need to think about turns do it the same way like streamers do, speak ( with yourself - nothing weird just do it)
and stop watching streamers if you wanna be good. they have chat full of people who watch the same game in real time so they have like thousands of helpers and if streamer dont see a lethal someone from chat see it. their 80% winrate decks are just lie. every deck after 1000 games ends up to max. 61%
i have played 22xxx games and i was in legend many times. not a pro, not a streamer. It is not hard goal. Good luck
-Imbawar-
I wasn't playing HS for two years almost (multiple legend before that).
I startrd last week of December without knowing anything about new keywords and stuff. Got to platinum 4 in few days with Pure Pala.
Got to legend first week in January with Gala Warlock adjusted slightly to meta (meaning I was beating evolve shamans pre nerf).
It is not that hard. You just need brainz a little and not just blindly copy paste net deck. I used Warlock with that 6 mana sticky healing minion, 7 mana choose 2 abilities legendary and 2 doomsayers to prevent evolve shaman, aggro and big minioj decks to play after cleaning boards so I can play tickatus. I cut out that 4 mana epic which draws 4 cards (it was always dead card in most of matches) used that 7 mana legendary draw 4 cards.
But for some reason legend rank is full of braindead aggro decks tryharding instead of players enjoying custom decks and Warlock has no use there, so I switched to control priest and control warrior and I am eating all those zoolocks and demon hunters and OTK decks for breakfast.
Just play, use brain and tech in cards to adjust to meta.
so how's legend goin for you almost 2/3 into January Season?