I'm trying to reach legend for the first time but I just keep going back and forth from D5-D3.
Would appreciate some tips, decks and things like that, maybe even some coaching.
I've tried Aggro DH (which I've used to get to D10), then I played with Gala Lock and Ress Priest (which I've used to get from D10-D5), now I'm switching between Dragon Hunter and Gala Rogue.
Probably the most helpful tip for me to reach legend for the first time was not to switch decks. Run one solid deck. And there were times where I was one game away from reaching legendary and then go on a losing streak back to rank 3. It happens. Just play smart, study hard and know when to stop playing after taking a few losses. Then return later. Good luck to you brotha
Sticking with one deck means you will learn the ins and outs of all the match-ups, more so than switching between decks. So I would suggest playing only one deck and trying to get really good at playing that exact deck.
You can use tools such as hsreplay.net to find exact decklists and the best mulligan strategies. I personally find mulligans to be the hardest part of mastering any deck, so maybe that's where you are struggling as well.
Since you say that you keep dropping ranks after ranking up, perhaps it's a good idea to take a break after a loss or two so you can calm your mind and play to the best of your ability.
The final climb becomes a wins per hour sort of system. Without win steaks then you want to play games quickly and efficiently. If you can find a deck that has a 66% win rate then you're looking at around 40-45 games to reach legend at a base D5. However if you can achieve a 55% win rate then the climb is slower but still achievable.
The best strategy is play a deck that either wins fast or loses fast. Don't be afraid to concede games that aren't going in your favor to increase your games per hour strategy.
Also try to grind with a single deck. Unless every single game is hard counters to your deck then staying with one can give you insight over multiple games to the best plays in situations that could be lost when switching decks.
The tip about sticking to one deck is really important. I made my climb with Aggro DH (before the 2nd round of nerfs). Would you believe that my last 4 wins including final boss were ALL against Galakrond Warlock? I won all 4 of those matches because I knew the matchup better than my opponent. I knew exactly how to mulligan, exactly how to dodge certain board clears, and exactly when to start prioritizing face damage over fighting for the board.
Additionally, when you know your own deck inside and out it allows you to play for your outs. You start to intuitively understand the state of the game and when you need to end it quickly. (speaking as DH) When that priest plays his Khartut Defender, sure you can trade 2 minions and a hero power into it and then reload the board. But that gives him back 8 health and puts Khartut in his rez pool. This all means that your window to kill the priest is closing very fast and you're a huge underdog if the game goes longer than 8-9 turns. So, instead of trading into it and reloading the board, maybe you take a risk. You let it rip with Skull of Gul'dan and you draw a 1 mana Kayn Sunfury along with a 0 mana Chaos Strike. Instead of you pushing 0 face damage and your opponent healing for 8, you push like 10 face damage. Furthermore, your opponent has no way to kill his own Khartut so, unless he can remove Kayn, he might very well be pretty handcuffed. That's just one example of how knowledge of one's own deck can help turn a potentially losing situation into a win.
My final piece of advice is to take your time. Practice REALLY thinking about plays. Without win streaks to aid your climb, the value of every win and every loss is amplified. Just 1 careless error every couple of games could be the difference between reaching legend in 50 games or it taking 100+ games.
I heard people's recipes to blind-concede like 20-30 games at D5 (where they can't drop any further), then they get matched by worse players/decks and win-streak quickly to legend.
I heard people's recipes to blind-concede like 20-30 games at D5 (where they can't drop any further), then they get matched by worse players/decks and win-streak quickly to legend.
Anyone tried?
Seems to good to be true.. no chance this can happen as every body will abuse this eventually
- Play Tempo DH (best deck even after nerfs, and fastest to rank up and master its game style)
- On mulligan verify that you have plays on curve (1 drop into 2 drop), if opponent is expected to be aggro keep tempo cards (like cheap weapon or cheap removal) and low curve cards since getting ahead on the board mostly decide those match-ups. If opponent expected to be control (like priest or mage in this meta) - keep only minions which will maximize your early damage. never keep card draw.
- Plan ahead your next turns (on mulligan and before you commit your turns) and think about the entire game-play (how do i win the opponent deck)
I also vote for playing Tempo DH. Before the second round of nerfs I got legend in a single morning with 70+% winrate. Insane! It should still be good. Just don't accept friend requests while playing this deck. Your opponents probably won't be congratulating you for the win :D
Plz don't play DH. If you don't want to be worse than Hitler (he at least cared about Germany or something) play a deck that isn't despised by every Hearthstone player. Also is 1 pack really worth spending time playing braindead? Legend isn't worth wasting time on this crap.
Nah, any good deck with decent win rate is 'despised by every Hearthstone player' (Rez Priest, Tempo DH, Secret Rogue, Spell Druid...). So feel free to play what works for you and ignore haters
I heard people's recipes to blind-concede like 20-30 games at D5 (where they can't drop any further), then they get matched by worse players/decks and win-streak quickly to legend.
Anyone tried?
I can't confirm how accurate the new system is however with the update to the new bronze, silver, gold, etc system it was announced that you will be matched more closely to players with similar mmr. So in essence this might work, however without knowing exactly what was changed or how the game ultimately tracks your mmr, it's not a guarantee.
I did what you guys said and played only with one deck (Spell Hunter), and...
I DID IT.
Sure, it took some losses at 3 stars Diamond 1 to Aggro DH and alot of tilting involved, but everytime I got triggered I gave it some time and then returned to play later.
Thank you so much for the tips, they were on point.
Nah, any good deck with decent win rate is 'despised by every Hearthstone player' (Rez Priest, Tempo DH, Secret Rogue, Spell Druid...). So feel free to play what works for you and ignore haters
It's not every deck with decent winrate. DH is just broken. Other aggro can be easily controlled if you trade card for card. Here there is an aggro that draws more than mill rouge and has direct dmg comparable to burn mage. Rez Priest is hated due to long, boring games (yay the same minion for 69th time this game. Cool I can kill the infiltrator again.) When it comes to spell druid and secret rouge they aren't despised. They are perfectly fine compared to previous two.
Congrats! Now that you've done it once, its always easier to do it again if you have the time to. You have that swagger knowing its not you, just probability
I did what you guys said and played only with one deck (Spell Hunter), and...
I DID IT.
Sure, it took some losses at 3 stars Diamond 1 to Aggro DH and alot of tilting involved, but everytime I got triggered I gave it some time and then returned to play later.
Thank you so much for the tips, they were on point.
This might be the first thread ever in any online gaming forum in which a user asked for advice on how to improve, received legitimate suggestions from the community, and then actually proceeded to immediately improve his gameplay and accomplish his goal.
Maybe there's still some hope for 2020....
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Hey all,
I'm trying to reach legend for the first time but I just keep going back and forth from D5-D3.
Would appreciate some tips, decks and things like that, maybe even some coaching.
I've tried Aggro DH (which I've used to get to D10), then I played with Gala Lock and Ress Priest (which I've used to get from D10-D5), now I'm switching between Dragon Hunter and Gala Rogue.
Thanks in advance :D
Probably the most helpful tip for me to reach legend for the first time was not to switch decks. Run one solid deck. And there were times where I was one game away from reaching legendary and then go on a losing streak back to rank 3. It happens. Just play smart, study hard and know when to stop playing after taking a few losses. Then return later. Good luck to you brotha
Sticking with one deck means you will learn the ins and outs of all the match-ups, more so than switching between decks. So I would suggest playing only one deck and trying to get really good at playing that exact deck.
You can use tools such as hsreplay.net to find exact decklists and the best mulligan strategies. I personally find mulligans to be the hardest part of mastering any deck, so maybe that's where you are struggling as well.
Since you say that you keep dropping ranks after ranking up, perhaps it's a good idea to take a break after a loss or two so you can calm your mind and play to the best of your ability.
Hope this helps!
The final climb becomes a wins per hour sort of system. Without win steaks then you want to play games quickly and efficiently. If you can find a deck that has a 66% win rate then you're looking at around 40-45 games to reach legend at a base D5. However if you can achieve a 55% win rate then the climb is slower but still achievable.
The best strategy is play a deck that either wins fast or loses fast. Don't be afraid to concede games that aren't going in your favor to increase your games per hour strategy.
Also try to grind with a single deck. Unless every single game is hard counters to your deck then staying with one can give you insight over multiple games to the best plays in situations that could be lost when switching decks.
Thanks all for the replies.
Was actually expecting some trolls going "just git gud", so thanks alot.
Will defenitely follow everyone's advice and try sticking to one deck.
Thanks again!
The tip about sticking to one deck is really important. I made my climb with Aggro DH (before the 2nd round of nerfs). Would you believe that my last 4 wins including final boss were ALL against Galakrond Warlock? I won all 4 of those matches because I knew the matchup better than my opponent. I knew exactly how to mulligan, exactly how to dodge certain board clears, and exactly when to start prioritizing face damage over fighting for the board.
Additionally, when you know your own deck inside and out it allows you to play for your outs. You start to intuitively understand the state of the game and when you need to end it quickly. (speaking as DH) When that priest plays his Khartut Defender, sure you can trade 2 minions and a hero power into it and then reload the board. But that gives him back 8 health and puts Khartut in his rez pool. This all means that your window to kill the priest is closing very fast and you're a huge underdog if the game goes longer than 8-9 turns. So, instead of trading into it and reloading the board, maybe you take a risk. You let it rip with Skull of Gul'dan and you draw a 1 mana Kayn Sunfury along with a 0 mana Chaos Strike. Instead of you pushing 0 face damage and your opponent healing for 8, you push like 10 face damage. Furthermore, your opponent has no way to kill his own Khartut so, unless he can remove Kayn, he might very well be pretty handcuffed. That's just one example of how knowledge of one's own deck can help turn a potentially losing situation into a win.
My final piece of advice is to take your time. Practice REALLY thinking about plays. Without win streaks to aid your climb, the value of every win and every loss is amplified. Just 1 careless error every couple of games could be the difference between reaching legend in 50 games or it taking 100+ games.
Is the matchup AI-rigged by Blizzard?
I heard people's recipes to blind-concede like 20-30 games at D5 (where they can't drop any further), then they get matched by worse players/decks and win-streak quickly to legend.
Anyone tried?
Seems to good to be true.. no chance this can happen as every body will abuse this eventually
- Play Tempo DH (best deck even after nerfs, and fastest to rank up and master its game style)
- On mulligan verify that you have plays on curve (1 drop into 2 drop), if opponent is expected to be aggro keep tempo cards (like cheap weapon or cheap removal) and low curve cards since getting ahead on the board mostly decide those match-ups. If opponent expected to be control (like priest or mage in this meta) - keep only minions which will maximize your early damage. never keep card draw.
- Plan ahead your next turns (on mulligan and before you commit your turns) and think about the entire game-play (how do i win the opponent deck)
Just grind. This game rewards time more than effort
I also vote for playing Tempo DH. Before the second round of nerfs I got legend in a single morning with 70+% winrate. Insane! It should still be good. Just don't accept friend requests while playing this deck. Your opponents probably won't be congratulating you for the win :D
Plz don't play DH. If you don't want to be worse than Hitler (he at least cared about Germany or something) play a deck that isn't despised by every Hearthstone player. Also is 1 pack really worth spending time playing braindead? Legend isn't worth wasting time on this crap.
Nah, any good deck with decent win rate is 'despised by every Hearthstone player' (Rez Priest, Tempo DH, Secret Rogue, Spell Druid...). So feel free to play what works for you and ignore haters
I can't confirm how accurate the new system is however with the update to the new bronze, silver, gold, etc system it was announced that you will be matched more closely to players with similar mmr. So in essence this might work, however without knowing exactly what was changed or how the game ultimately tracks your mmr, it's not a guarantee.
So.....
I did what you guys said and played only with one deck (Spell Hunter), and...
I DID IT.
Sure, it took some losses at 3 stars Diamond 1 to Aggro DH and alot of tilting involved, but everytime I got triggered I gave it some time and then returned to play later.
Thank you so much for the tips, they were on point.
congratulations. How many games did it take?
From D5, around 70. Just at Diamond 1 it took like 20 games of going back and forth.
It's not every deck with decent winrate. DH is just broken. Other aggro can be easily controlled if you trade card for card. Here there is an aggro that draws more than mill rouge and has direct dmg comparable to burn mage. Rez Priest is hated due to long, boring games (yay the same minion for 69th time this game. Cool I can kill the infiltrator again.) When it comes to spell druid and secret rouge they aren't despised. They are perfectly fine compared to previous two.
Congrats! Now that you've done it once, its always easier to do it again if you have the time to. You have that swagger knowing its not you, just probability
This might be the first thread ever in any online gaming forum in which a user asked for advice on how to improve, received legitimate suggestions from the community, and then actually proceeded to immediately improve his gameplay and accomplish his goal.
Maybe there's still some hope for 2020....