Malygos deserves to be HoFed just as much as any other card in the game.
More in detail, Malygos OTK decks differ depending on the class.
While Ragnaros just filled the top curve for nearly any Tempo or Midrange deck, which is arguably the most common deck type in the game, unlike OTK.
This is not true, in my opinion. Do you really want to face Malygos OTK decks in the standard format from now until Hearthstone at some point dies ? The decks he enables are all "the same deck", just in different classes. Maly rogue, Maly druid, Maly priest. They all do EXACTLY the same thing, just with different tools. If i were given a choice between cards to HOF : Leeroy, Sylvanas, Ragnaros and Malygos - id choose Malygos every time. At least the other cards are fun to play against.
I don't know A LOT of people hate playing against Leeroy, where in rogue you can push so hard and with 7 mana burst for 14 damage. Not to mention all the aggro plays that are possible. Different people find different things not fun to play against. Personally, stabilizing against aggro as control only to get 14 damage to face is really not fun...
Malygos himself isn't the problem, the problem is all of the stall cards. Even if he doesn't get hall of famed, he will become severely worse when things like Spreading Plague finally leave.
There will always be new stall cards. Malygos is the only constant. He wont get worse. He does exactly what hes always done. The tools might change, but there will always be a Malygos OTK deck in one form or another.
Malygos himself isn't the problem, the problem is all of the stall cards. Even if he doesn't get hall of famed, he will become severely worse when things like Spreading Plague finally leave.
There will always be new stall cards. Malygos is the only constant. He wont get worse. He does exactly what hes always done. The tools might change, but there will always be a Malygos OTK deck in one form or another.
Except without the stall tools that I just mentioned and more, there won't be a way for malygos decks to survive. All deathknights leave, branching paths will be gone. They simply won't have a way to survive.
Malygos deserves to be HoFed just as much as any other card in the game.
More in detail, Malygos OTK decks differ depending on the class.
While Ragnaros just filled the top curve for nearly any Tempo or Midrange deck, which is arguably the most common deck type in the game, unlike OTK.
This is not true, in my opinion. Do you really want to face Malygos OTK decks in the standard format from now until Hearthstone at some point dies ? The decks he enables are all "the same deck", just in different classes. Maly rogue, Maly druid, Maly priest. They all do EXACTLY the same thing, just with different tools. If i were given a choice between cards to HOF : Leeroy, Sylvanas, Ragnaros and Malygos - id choose Malygos every time. At least the other cards are fun to play against.
I don't mind facing Malygos OTK, because they are often convoluted to play and spectacular, since they are not really Exodia decks.
Malygos is not even always meta actually. After Innervate nerf, before Druid could stack up stalls, armor and mana cheats, Malygos was a trash card in Standard.
Tbh, i'd rather have Wild Big Priest and Shudderwock removed from the game entirely.
And if you ask me what i really want, it is what anybody does deep down, that is the fact that i can stomp upon the ladder no matter what i face, with opponents possibly running in despair.
Nah, it's only a problem for these 'stall and somehow win' decks that don't actually have a tangible win condition. OTK is a thing and some other OTK build would just replace it. Then we would have to read another thread like this one.
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Nah, it's only a problem for these 'stall and somehow win' decks that don't actually have a tangible win condition. OTK is a thing and some other OTK build would just replace it. Then we would have to read another thread like this one.
OTK is a thing, i agree. And it should be a thing, yes i agree on that point too. But should the same OTK always be a thing ? I did not call for Mecha'thun to be HOF'ed. I do not mind OTK decks at all. But i've played against Malygos OTK decks since the beta, and its getting a bit... old.
Edit: Ok, so Malygos OTK didnt exist prior to Blackrock Mountain.
Malygos is one of the best designed cards ever imo. So many combos I've tried to create just don't quite work with him, at 9 Mana it's just tough to make a combo work, yet there are a few that consistently do work. But these usually really on other cheat cards. Malygos himself isn't a cheat card. Alexstraza is much more likely to be a problem than Malygos.
No. OTK decks are good - keep Control decks in check.
Agreed completely. But does it always need to be Malygos? I wouldn't completely opposed to HoF-ing it just for some variety. Although, I suppose having a neutral Combo OTK card in classic is pretty important. Basically, I just talked myself out of it. Lol
No. OTK decks are good - keep Control decks in check.
Agreed completely. But does it always need to be Malygos? I wouldn't completely opposed to HoF-ing it just for some variety. Although, I suppose having a neutral Combo OTK card in classic is pretty important. Basically, I just talked myself out of it. Lol
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There are OTK decks that don't use the Goose. And some do. It's a fair card.
More importantly, the Dragon Aspects are iconic to the game. They should never be touched. Alex is weaker and weaker with all the healing. Druid and Warrior armor is insane.
uhmmm in one hand he needs a deck built around him to be effective and thus doesn't see play in many classes because he isn't an atoinclude..on the other hand Malygos Druid and Rogue have always been a thing since the dawn of hearthstone and have been tier 1 at different points, Malydruid a lot more than rogue since it was t1 during old gods, witchwood, boomsday and tgt, so maybe we could use some winds of change, personally though if Malygos is HoFed for that exact reason then i expect to see doomguard HoFED alongside him
Malygos in Standard ... NO obviously this card does not need to be HOF'ed more like all the cheating ways SHOULD be hofed but the power level of this card alone only comes from new sets,pretty much if blizzard wants Malygos to be good it will be,i would argue Alexstraza is more HoFable than Malygos tbh.
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I don't know A LOT of people hate playing against Leeroy, where in rogue you can push so hard and with 7 mana burst for 14 damage. Not to mention all the aggro plays that are possible. Different people find different things not fun to play against. Personally, stabilizing against aggro as control only to get 14 damage to face is really not fun...
There will always be new stall cards. Malygos is the only constant. He wont get worse. He does exactly what hes always done. The tools might change, but there will always be a Malygos OTK deck in one form or another.
Except without the stall tools that I just mentioned and more, there won't be a way for malygos decks to survive. All deathknights leave, branching paths will be gone. They simply won't have a way to survive.
I don't mind facing Malygos OTK, because they are often convoluted to play and spectacular, since they are not really Exodia decks.
Malygos is not even always meta actually. After Innervate nerf, before Druid could stack up stalls, armor and mana cheats, Malygos was a trash card in Standard.
Tbh, i'd rather have Wild Big Priest and Shudderwock removed from the game entirely.
And if you ask me what i really want, it is what anybody does deep down, that is the fact that i can stomp upon the ladder no matter what i face, with opponents possibly running in despair.
But it is a multiplayer online game...
Nah, it's only a problem for these 'stall and somehow win' decks that don't actually have a tangible win condition. OTK is a thing and some other OTK build would just replace it. Then we would have to read another thread like this one.
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OTK is a thing, i agree. And it should be a thing, yes i agree on that point too. But should the same OTK always be a thing ? I did not call for Mecha'thun to be HOF'ed. I do not mind OTK decks at all. But i've played against Malygos OTK decks since the beta, and its getting a bit... old.
Edit: Ok, so Malygos OTK didnt exist prior to Blackrock Mountain.
No. OTK decks are good - keep Control decks in check.
Fair point, but a neutral tech vs combo is needed for keep OTK in check too, is bad for the game any archetype be uncheck.
Malygos is one of the best designed cards ever imo. So many combos I've tried to create just don't quite work with him, at 9 Mana it's just tough to make a combo work, yet there are a few that consistently do work. But these usually really on other cheat cards. Malygos himself isn't a cheat card. Alexstraza is much more likely to be a problem than Malygos.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind it. It feels like some version of Maly OTK has been viable for the last 2+ years.
Alternatively, I'd like new versions of Maly, like we had the new Deathwing.
Aggro decks do a fine job of keeping OTK decks in check. No neutral is needed. Nor wanted.
Agreed completely. But does it always need to be Malygos? I wouldn't completely opposed to HoF-ing it just for some variety. Although, I suppose having a neutral Combo OTK card in classic is pretty important. Basically, I just talked myself out of it. Lol
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There are OTK decks that don't use the Goose. And some do. It's a fair card.
More importantly, the Dragon Aspects are iconic to the game. They should never be touched. Alex is weaker and weaker with all the healing. Druid and Warrior armor is insane.
uhmmm in one hand he needs a deck built around him to be effective and thus doesn't see play in many classes because he isn't an atoinclude..on the other hand Malygos Druid and Rogue have always been a thing since the dawn of hearthstone and have been tier 1 at different points, Malydruid a lot more than rogue since it was t1 during old gods, witchwood, boomsday and tgt, so maybe we could use some winds of change, personally though if Malygos is HoFed for that exact reason then i expect to see doomguard HoFED alongside him
yeye, with leeroy and alexstrasza. and let us have some new classic legendaries, some big guys from the warcraft universe
No, because Malygos isn't an auto-include in most decks.
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This +1. We still have -2 for Classic legendary cards. I'd be sad to see more go.
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Malygos in Standard ... NO obviously this card does not need to be HOF'ed more like all the cheating ways SHOULD be hofed but the power level of this card alone only comes from new sets,pretty much if blizzard wants Malygos to be good it will be,i would argue Alexstraza is more HoFable than Malygos tbh.