I am currently trying to push deathrattle hunter to legend and everything is fine, except one matchup - taunt druid. I am fine with loosing so no salt here. The problem is as hsreplay states, that it should be one sided matchup (61,6% winrate for deathrattle hunter) and I've lost every single game. It is infuriating. Am I doing somehting wrong (well obviously)? Can someone help me? Thanks for help.
I am surprised about the winrate. From my taunt druid experience, the matchup is not really bad. I guess the key is a quick start with egg and deathrattle triggers and win via highmane and cube. As soon as the game went to the lategame and I could kill hadronox, I won because I then had time to create boards (which the hunter eventually cannot remove) to outtempo the hunter. So I guess the less greedier and more aggressive hunter lists are better vs. Taunt druid.
I am surprised about the winrate. From my taunt druid experience, the matchup is not really bad. I guess the key is a quick start with egg and deathrattle triggers and win via highmane and cube. As soon as the game went to the lategame and I could kill hadronox, I won because I then had time to create boards (which the hunter eventually cannot remove) to outtempo the hunter. So I guess the less greedier and more aggressive hunter lists are better vs. Taunt druid.
Exactly it seems almost impossible to kill the druid before Hadronox and then it is over. What would you say, that the more agressive lists are?
I've seen your replay and imo you did it pretty well and it just hard to deal with t8 oakheart with middle-well starting hand. t4 shaw is questionable but seems right to me. Some of your late-game decisions is suboptimal: he used both his naturalizes so if you didn't play poison he'd had to break his cube for few turns, plus t11 you've played defender before build-a-beast which could be possibly a misplay if you discovered something viable. But still, this particullar game was most likely lost once he played oakheart.
The match up is basically that if Oakheart is played within the first ten turns before Deathrattle hunter is able to get his deathrattles going, then you automatically lose.
I'm on the phone so I can't really look it up now, but I'd say it's the list with highmane. Tech two silences for lethal or silencing hadronox/their cube.
And sometimes you just get a bad streak and meet only well drawing opponents. Then you can't to anything and just keep on trying. Eventually you will draw good and they bad...
Edit: I guess something like this is more aggressive (just did a quick search):
Maybe switch a Giggling Inventor for another Highmane. But you should know that changing the matchup against taunt Druid will also affect other matchups (good or bad)
So I’ve played a load of Taunt Druid and got to legend with it a few months ago. I’m surprised your still facing it a lot as I think it’s really fallen out of popularity. It’s major weakness is being rushed down so your beat chance of winning is just to be really aggressive. Of course I’f they high role and get ramp into Oakhrart there’s not much you can do but that happens not too often.
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Yep T8 Oakheart is pretty much god curve for Taunt druid. The best thing you can do as a taunt hunter is load up the board and hopefully start to cycle Cubes to maintain pressure and clear.
If you can't burn them down through curving out getting DK online ASAP is also good since you can outvalue the druid in the long game.
If you don't have the board when Oakheart comes out though it's most likely GG, you cannot win this match from behind.
I think Rexxar on 8 was a misplay because it was too slow and the two shots at fishing for an Ironbeak Owl-Zombeast didn't pay off.
Push for 10 damage, Play Dead plus play Mossy Horror puts another 17 attack onto the board. Next turn you would have hunter's mark + DK Rexxar against their taunt, trade into Dragon Catcher and push 22 damage to face. You got him down to 15 and this line does a lot more extra damage.
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I am currently trying to push deathrattle hunter to legend and everything is fine, except one matchup - taunt druid. I am fine with loosing so no salt here. The problem is as hsreplay states, that it should be one sided matchup (61,6% winrate for deathrattle hunter) and I've lost every single game. It is infuriating. Am I doing somehting wrong (well obviously)? Can someone help me? Thanks for help.
If someone's going to help you, he needs to know the matchup...
Two things:
1. What deck is it you keep losing to?
2. Can you post a HSreplay for us to look at your gameplay?
Thanks! XD
Thanks fixed
The latest replay: https://hsreplay.net/replay/vWWR6tyhhrgzmcAoW5ktnX. I am bit ashamed, surelly I have made tons of mistakes...
I am surprised about the winrate. From my taunt druid experience, the matchup is not really bad. I guess the key is a quick start with egg and deathrattle triggers and win via highmane and cube. As soon as the game went to the lategame and I could kill hadronox, I won because I then had time to create boards (which the hunter eventually cannot remove) to outtempo the hunter. So I guess the less greedier and more aggressive hunter lists are better vs. Taunt druid.
Exactly it seems almost impossible to kill the druid before Hadronox and then it is over. What would you say, that the more agressive lists are?
I've seen your replay and imo you did it pretty well and it just hard to deal with t8 oakheart with middle-well starting hand. t4 shaw is questionable but seems right to me. Some of your late-game decisions is suboptimal: he used both his naturalizes so if you didn't play poison he'd had to break his cube for few turns, plus t11 you've played defender before build-a-beast which could be possibly a misplay if you discovered something viable. But still, this particullar game was most likely lost once he played oakheart.
The match up is basically that if Oakheart is played within the first ten turns before Deathrattle hunter is able to get his deathrattles going, then you automatically lose.
I'm on the phone so I can't really look it up now, but I'd say it's the list with highmane. Tech two silences for lethal or silencing hadronox/their cube.
And sometimes you just get a bad streak and meet only well drawing opponents. Then you can't to anything and just keep on trying. Eventually you will draw good and they bad...
Edit: I guess something like this is more aggressive (just did a quick search):
Maybe switch a Giggling Inventor for another Highmane. But you should know that changing the matchup against taunt Druid will also affect other matchups (good or bad)
So I’ve played a load of Taunt Druid and got to legend with it a few months ago. I’m surprised your still facing it a lot as I think it’s really fallen out of popularity. It’s major weakness is being rushed down so your beat chance of winning is just to be really aggressive. Of course I’f they high role and get ramp into Oakhrart there’s not much you can do but that happens not too often.
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Yep T8 Oakheart is pretty much god curve for Taunt druid. The best thing you can do as a taunt hunter is load up the board and hopefully start to cycle Cubes to maintain pressure and clear.
If you can't burn them down through curving out getting DK online ASAP is also good since you can outvalue the druid in the long game.
If you don't have the board when Oakheart comes out though it's most likely GG, you cannot win this match from behind.
I think Rexxar on 8 was a misplay because it was too slow and the two shots at fishing for an Ironbeak Owl-Zombeast didn't pay off.
Push for 10 damage, Play Dead plus play Mossy Horror puts another 17 attack onto the board. Next turn you would have hunter's mark + DK Rexxar against their taunt, trade into Dragon Catcher and push 22 damage to face. You got him down to 15 and this line does a lot more extra damage.