Any assistance in beating this deck? I am playing mainly Spiteful Priest at the moment and get close, but cant seem to ever finish off this Rogue - I'm not moaning about it - same as all decks, its there to be beaten, but even if I include the likes of any Ooze or Harrison Jones, the bouncebackability of the blade, especially once its been cast with Leeching Poison means death - usually a slow, lingering one!
Always feel I have a chance against pretty much any other deck - but this one just seems nigh on unbeatable?!?
Am sure, or hope, I'm wrong, so any assistance or tips other than auto concede would be greatly appreciated!
vomit minions on the board and then just drag that green arrow from your minions to rogue face, make them have answers instead of playing around everything. most often than not mill/weapon rogue just auto-loses to bad draw.
Nerubian Unraveler! If you can delay his vanish by a turn, that's often all you need to push through. It's pretty niche, but hsreplay has it with higher win rate when played in Priest than Spiteful Summoner, even.
Steal the Southsea Squidface: while it doesn't look like a minion you'd want to use Mind Control on, it is the most valuable minion you're going to get from that deck, both in terms of stats and in terms of sabotaging your opponent's game plan.
Go for a wide board: they can clear only one minion a turn with their weapon and the other removal is limited. However, some are now running Blade Flurry, so if they already buffed the weapon a lot it can be a risk to go too wide. Still, if you don't go wide you're not going to threaten their life total.
In terms of deck building and discovering random cards/buffs, divine shield is very useful: if a minion with divine shield is hit, the weapon does no damage, so lifesteal doesn't heal. Also it means they take twice as long to remove your minion.
I play a lot of Kingsbane deck. Warlocks die. Painfully. I don't know how they can win against that deck unless rogue draws awfully. But other meta decks such as mage, paladin and priest (when gets okay curve) is cancer to play against. Try mage. Just throw everything face. Either rogue will rage quit with good amount of salt or they will die by turn 6.
Don't play Spiteful Priest! It loses almost every time to Kingsbane/Mill Rogue. And I seem to get it a LOT whenever I play Spiteful Priest. Go with an aggro deck.
I play a lot of Kingsbane deck. Warlocks die. Painfully. I don't know how they can win against that deck unless rogue draws awfully. But other meta decks such as mage, paladin and priest (when gets okay curve) is cancer to play against. Try mage. Just throw everything face. Either rogue will rage quit with good amount of salt or they will die by turn 6.
I have never lost against Kingsbane deck as control warlock. Granted I did only face them a couple of times. Never taping + Gluttonous Ooze + Gnomeferatu = gg. Granted, if you do mill your counter or key cards you can still lose, but that didn't happen yet.
As for priest, Why harrison? Gluttonous Ooze or normal Ooze perform much better against a deck that WANTS you to draw.
Being on the other side of this 'problem', I can say that it's a very bad matchup for you. I'm always ecstatic facing Big Priest or Spiteful Priest. It's a stellar time to play Kingsbane Rogue then.
If you're running a build with no Blade Flurry then a wide board can pose a huge problem unless you're sitting on Vanish. Even then, it can still pose a problem depending on how buffed the Kingsbane has gotten.
You've gotten the best advice here that you can. Go face as hard as you can, where possible, to negate the Rogue's ability to use early swings from the weapon to control the board. Some weapon destruction in deck would not go amiss, either. While it may lower your win rate against some decks, Kingsbane Rogue, Secret Mage (with Aluneth) and various forms of warlock with Skull of the Man'ari all cry against weapon destruction. Less so KBR, since we can cycle it back. But a well timed weapon destruction when the Rogue has no Cavern Shinyfinder in hand can be deadly to our tempo.
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Honestly, I wouldn't care about it as it rarely sees play. Everything you'd do to push your winrate against kingsbane rogue would lower your overall winrate dramastically.
this is actually true. kingsbane rogue is not really a thing anymore. it barely sees play, and the one's that do play it aren't usually the greatest to begin with. i am playing arcane secret mage. i usually just muligan for frostbolts, glyph for anything that freezes them, toss in a water elemtal and just keep them frozen. as for you, i honestly havenot played much priest, just lock, mage and druid really are the classes i have gotten golden and spend most time on.
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Any assistance in beating this deck? I am playing mainly Spiteful Priest at the moment and get close, but cant seem to ever finish off this Rogue - I'm not moaning about it - same as all decks, its there to be beaten, but even if I include the likes of any Ooze or Harrison Jones, the bouncebackability of the blade, especially once its been cast with Leeching Poison means death - usually a slow, lingering one!
Always feel I have a chance against pretty much any other deck - but this one just seems nigh on unbeatable?!?
Am sure, or hope, I'm wrong, so any assistance or tips other than auto concede would be greatly appreciated!
My magic will tear you......oh.
vomit minions on the board and then just drag that green arrow from your minions to rogue face, make them have answers instead of playing around everything. most often than not mill/weapon rogue just auto-loses to bad draw.
Nerubian Unraveler! If you can delay his vanish by a turn, that's often all you need to push through. It's pretty niche, but hsreplay has it with higher win rate when played in Priest than Spiteful Summoner, even.
Steal the Southsea Squidface: while it doesn't look like a minion you'd want to use Mind Control on, it is the most valuable minion you're going to get from that deck, both in terms of stats and in terms of sabotaging your opponent's game plan.
Go for a wide board: they can clear only one minion a turn with their weapon and the other removal is limited. However, some are now running Blade Flurry, so if they already buffed the weapon a lot it can be a risk to go too wide. Still, if you don't go wide you're not going to threaten their life total.
In terms of deck building and discovering random cards/buffs, divine shield is very useful: if a minion with divine shield is hit, the weapon does no damage, so lifesteal doesn't heal. Also it means they take twice as long to remove your minion.
I play a lot of Kingsbane deck. Warlocks die. Painfully. I don't know how they can win against that deck unless rogue draws awfully.
But other meta decks such as mage, paladin and priest (when gets okay curve) is cancer to play against. Try mage. Just throw everything face. Either rogue will rage quit with good amount of salt or they will die by turn 6.
The man who got 4 The Boogeymonster from packs and thinks about playing Yogg-Saron, Hope's End decks.
Don't play Spiteful Priest! It loses almost every time to Kingsbane/Mill Rogue. And I seem to get it a LOT whenever I play Spiteful Priest. Go with an aggro deck.
Thanks everyone - some really useful and helpful tips/comments in there - much appreciated.
My magic will tear you......oh.
Go face with everything. Ignore the board.
And Mulligan for your early board and play even without synergy your Dragons.
The only way to beat it with Spiteful is before Turn 6 or 7, once they it Vanish, it's pretty much a done deal.
Good luck :)
Being on the other side of this 'problem', I can say that it's a very bad matchup for you. I'm always ecstatic facing Big Priest or Spiteful Priest. It's a stellar time to play Kingsbane Rogue then.
If you're running a build with no Blade Flurry then a wide board can pose a huge problem unless you're sitting on Vanish. Even then, it can still pose a problem depending on how buffed the Kingsbane has gotten.
You've gotten the best advice here that you can. Go face as hard as you can, where possible, to negate the Rogue's ability to use early swings from the weapon to control the board. Some weapon destruction in deck would not go amiss, either. While it may lower your win rate against some decks, Kingsbane Rogue, Secret Mage (with Aluneth) and various forms of warlock with Skull of the Man'ari all cry against weapon destruction. Less so KBR, since we can cycle it back. But a well timed weapon destruction when the Rogue has no Cavern Shinyfinder in hand can be deadly to our tempo.
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Rumbling around Gurubashi Arena. Shirvallah is the best loa. Go Tigers!
Switch to Murloc Paladin...that is all.