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PremiumWhy the fuck would someone ever think that aggro decks are those that are killing control? Control decks are ment to kill aggro. Greedy decks with a lot of value are those that control decks can't hande. For me, as a control warrior player, is really great when i see, for example, aggro/evolve shaman. I am farming free victories against them. So, decks like jade druid, or paladin decks, or priest with a lot of value are decks that are killing me. Vs aggro i just simply clear board till they run out of stuff to play and against decks with lot of value i try to burn them with Alextraza, Gromm and my wapons. Druid is too fucking strong. It's impossible to always clear their jades and bc of their enormous armor gainig it's impossible to kill them in any way.
Don't know if this was said already but there are (in fact) a few control decks that can beat jade druid, one of which is Mill-Bounce-Nzoth Rogue.
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There is this problem in the metagame, that it will always make HS move forward with RPS mentality, this counters that, that gets countered by it, it gets countered by this.
The problem playing against Jade is that on slower games you can clear their entire board and it doesn't have much impact. They can immediately play 3 cheap cards and they've got a 7/7, 8/8, and 9/9 starting down at you again.
The Caverns Below has been nerfed. Now, lets hit Jade Idol.
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Card Design ChampionTbh the origin of this problem are aggro decks. Control decks cannot tech against both Jade and billion aggro decks we have running around. If you could make your deck top end heavy you could easily destroy Jade druids.
Why would you tech against aggro + jades? You take your bad matchups (every archetype has them) and move on. You can't have good winrate against everything. That would be like aggro player complaining he can't do well against taunt warrior and has to slow down to tech against it. No - you take your losses and beat jades, combo decks and such. If you like control and say there are "billion aggro decks around" - win against aggro and lose against jades. You will still climb easily.
You people don't understand that some players (me included) don't like control decks. I don't want to play 15-minute chess-Hearthstone games. I just want to win as fast as possible.
Honestly the only part of the Jade Druid package that bothers me is Earthen Scales. Before that control decks could and did beat them (though it was still a bad match up) by emphasizing whatever tempo plays they could make, often with a burst finish to close the game out before the jades started to dominate (Grom, Mages burn, or Leeroy + Power Overwhelming in MSoG).
I even think it made most control decks more "healthy" as it forced them to rely on an actually finisher rather than just remove all your opponents threats until they die of fatigue (yawn).
Now however with both Earthen Scales and Feral Rage in rotation at same time they have the ability to heal out of range of most control decks finishers, which is a definite problem.
wow...just wow...quest rogue kept jade druid in check and off the ladder and had a 42% win rate overall...you people...the same people who are posting in this thread, cried loud enough to get a fine card NERFed...now you want another NERF?
participation trophies was a really poor idea, eh?
We shouldn't nerf broken (jade golem) with more broken (caverns below). Just fix the problem at the root.
I'm pretty sure Gadgetzan Auctioneer is already in the crosshairs, even if they aren't yet ready to announce it. Since it's a huge part of this deck's success, I think most concerns will be alleviated if it goes to the Hall of Fame.
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