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Quote from brilliant_gnome >>

The design of the card is easily the worst in HS history, perhaps with rogue quest and anyfin as top three contenders.

The design teams love-interest in druid has been fairly obvious for many years as well, druid has almost always been absolute top tier with one or more decks. These days druid can get more armour than warrior if they go that route, deal heavier combos than freeze mage if they go that route, outvalue any deck they choose if they go that route or outsmorc any deck if they go that route. I can't really think of any other class which so often gets to be the best at whatever gameplan they choose. 

 

they nerved the patron warrior and anyfin by removing the legendary murloc cuz they they have charge and can end the game in one turn, and dont give the opponent a turn or chance to counter. and then they made the rogue quest which can deal more than 30 in 1 turn with 1 mana minions -_- 

we do have quest rogue to keep jade in check. there is a hard counter for every deck atm, it is called a "healthy metagame".

nothing needs a nerf and people should accept it instead of calling for nerfs because they cannot win a certain match up with their favourite deck.

Quote from adiiii90 >>

Quote from brilliant_gnome >>

The design of the card is easily the worst in HS history, perhaps with rogue quest and anyfin as top three contenders.

The design teams love-interest in druid has been fairly obvious for many years as well, druid has almost always been absolute top tier with one or more decks. These days druid can get more armour than warrior if they go that route, deal heavier combos than freeze mage if they go that route, outvalue any deck they choose if they go that route or outsmorc any deck if they go that route. I can't really think of any other class which so often gets to be the best at whatever gameplan they choose. 

 

they nerved the patron warrior and anyfin by removing the legendary murloc cuz they they have charge and can end the game in one turn, and dont give the opponent a turn or chance to counter. and then they made the rogue quest which can deal more than 30 in 1 turn with 1 mana minions -_- 

 

Auctioneer is the problem, simple as that.  Druid can't deal with a big board, and wearing out their resources will generally give you at least some window to kill them before the "fatigue cycling" begins.  But a big Auctioneer refuel mid-game allows a wall of of taunts/armor out of nowhere, and gg.

The deck is not oppressive because of its numerous counters, but I agree with others regarding the trouble with polarized matchups.

Auctioneer also screws Rogue design space because of its history of abuse in that class.  So instead of the interesting tempo cards Rogue deserves, we get that filthy quest.  Just move the card to HoF.

What's the problem with Jade Druid?  You can't get away with playing your super greedy, do nothing all game decks?   What's wrong with that?

Quote from kingius >>

While nerfing charge would indeed fix the problem it would have a pretty major effect on how many other decks in Hearthstone play out as well. There would be a lot of unintended consequences to a big change like this. Charge has a built in counter with the standard game mechanics (taunt); use it.

Quote from kingius >>

While nerfing charge would indeed fix the problem it would have a pretty major effect on how many other decks in Hearthstone play out as well. There would be a lot of unintended consequences to a big change like this. Charge has a built in counter with the standard game mechanics (taunt); use it.

Paladins equality combo and large minions like tirion win me games against countless jade druids.

Quote from kingius >>

As a player who plays exclusively Druid and nothing else, I find that Beast Druid is giving me much more success on ladder, with the latest expansion pack, than Jade Druid. It's harder than you think to pilot Jade Druid well. You can stuff yourself up with constant Jade Idol draw (as another poster has pointed out) when what you really need is removal. Removal has always been Druid's weakest point. When Blizzard nerfed FON+SR combo they came up with C'thuun Druid as a new finisher and then Jade Druid. Personally I'd be okay with them nerfing Jade Idol if we got FON+SR combo back.

Quote from Skkra >>

Jade Idol should have shuffled 3x more idols into your deck, but NOT ones that had more reshuffles. Those additional 3 should have been it. The idea of a single control deck that beats all other controls decks was never smart to me.

I dont find Jade Druid to be a HUGE problem right now, but I wont be sad to see it rotate out of Standard when it does. 

The problem is Jade Idol. Must be limited the amount of Jade Idols that u can have at the same time on deck

Anyfin has a lot harder winning condition than Jade druid,

By far.

Quote from gabugga >>

I just want to get this clear. You said your deck can beat anything except for jade druid. So you're upset that your deck can't beat everything in the game?

This thread is dumb it is not unbeatable and only a tier 3 deck the whole meta un'goro meta.

Growing infinite value for 1 mana should not exist in this game. Also immunity to fatigue. It's like fuckin' heroic boss.

Quote from On3_M4n_Army >>

Growing infinite value for 1 mana should not exist in this game. Also immunity to fatigue. It's like fuckin' heroic boss.

Even as a control player, I want jade druid in the game.  Why cant we all just accept that a balanced meta has unfair matchups?  Freeze used to hard counter zoo and be hard countered by control warrior.  Zoo and numerous aggro/tempo mages hard countered combo druid.  Handlock invalidated most control in its heyday.  There will always be lopsided matchups in hearthstone.  

Talk about the epitome of laziness.  Jade Druid should be nerfed.  How?  What cards? Is there a proposal or are you just salty one beat you?  What is next, my wife upsetting me needs to be nerfed?  If you are going to create a whine thread at least have the common decency to make a tangible suggestion beyond 'blizz fix k'

No deck in the game should have unlimited cards. Everytime I queue up against Jade Druid, it's like my opponent is running cheat codes. Would we really be OK with any other class having access to unlimited draw? I don't play Mill decks, but they're completely shut out of the game because of one single card. Also, why are we so concerned about counters to control, as if that's such a problem at the moment? At least every card in the game is playable in a control match. Almost no card over 6 mana seems to matter in aggro games. We never have a control meta! Why is everyone so afraid of longer games that require careful use of resources instead of just dumping your whole hand and pointing at face? I have no problem with jades in Shaman, Rogue (even with N'zoth and bounce mechanics), and even Druid, EXCEPT Jade Idol.

It is not about win rate of popularity. It is the principle of the game. Infinite resource in 1 card is not a good design.

It is also linear and disgusting.......