It's my first real time climbing to legend. The only other time I ever played much ranked was in the days of aggro shaman, which I got to rank 6 5 stars with, then went on a losing streak and stopped playing. Now I picked up midrange hunter since it's cheap and good to climb, this is the list:
I've gotten to rank 2 5 stars today, and now went on a 4 losing streak + disconnect to find myself back at rank 2 0 stars. I just don't know if I can do it, I face murloc paladin 40% of the time (literally from my stats) right now and it just doesn't feel fair. I can't really afford any others decks so I don't know If I can hit legend
If it's literally 40% of the time, run two hungry crabs. It's still a beast so it's not the worst thing in a hunter deck.
Gz for the legend. I've tested a lot of versions of taunt warrior recently (im at rank2 atm) and now, looking at your version i wanna ask you something: - 0 Sleep with the fishes, 0 whirlwind...could you handle the board everytime? - With 0 acolyte of pain did you feel that slam/curator are enough to draw? (I usually use block to stack armor, but as i can see, you play a single copy of shield slam)
Thanks, and sorry for not replying earlier, I'm at work and honestly, I don't like writing too much on a phone, so I'll try and respond in depth after I get to a PC ;)
edit: just got back from work, so here goes -
Firstly, the sample size is pretty small (only 39 games), I didn't track my wins before hitting rank 2 - so the stats might be a little skewed.
Also, I have to say that one of the Midrange Hunters who beat me, added me afterwards and, after spectating a couple of my games, said, and I quote: "you have a lot of balls" xD
I was maybe a bit too greedy at times, but it paid off...someone will say it was luck, but one thing that everyone who attempts Legend (as I always knew) needs to keep in mind is, it's necessary to play quite a lot, and not take the losses too hard, because there will be ridiculous ones (and ridiculous wins too). For example, the only Freeze Mage who beat me got an 8 mana Pyroblast from Primordial Glyph, which he got after getting Cabalist's Tome from Glyph, and a Fireball from the 3rd Glyph. He burst me down from like 30+ Armor.
As for the question about the board, I don't really think any more AoE is needed. Like all Control Warriors before, you have to think about what your opponent can do, and try and get the most value out of Brawl and other AoE like Primordial Drake (great thing about that one is it puts up a formidable Taunt, so it doesn't even have to clean up everything a lot of the time). As evidenced from my quite even winrates against the most common decks like Pirate Warrior, Murloc (Controlish and aggroish) Paladin and Rogue (Quest and Garden), I couldn't handle it everytime but I didn't get obliterated either. It depends on the quality of the player you're facing too.
Generally, you have to mulligan for Fiery War Axe, Armorsmith, and, if you're going 2nd, it might be good to get 1, or even 2 of the 3-Mana Taunts. You slow down the opponent, try your best to remove any high value targets you can, and Armor up as much as you can. My general gameplan was not for the Taunts to survive, but to soak up as much damage and minions as possible, and only when their resources are quite depleted, play Sulfuras and start pounding the opponent. Draw was not really a problem, The Curator, 2x Slam, 2x Shield Block and even Stonehill Defender as a pseudo-draw was enough for me. Of course I sometimes wished I had more draw, but I don't really know what would I cut, and extra draw is kinda needed in every deck except Miracle Rogue tbh xD. Also, you have to be careful sometimes not to shuffle a Direhorn Matriarch into your deck, if you're digging for some removal or something.
Shield Slam was enough as a 1-of for me, because when I played with 2 (before hitting rank 2), I had quite a few games where I didn't have Armor and couldn't use it...
Hopefully, this helps you at least a bit, I'm not really good at writing guides xD
It's my first real time climbing to legend. The only other time I ever played much ranked was in the days of aggro shaman, which I got to rank 6 5 stars with, then went on a losing streak and stopped playing. Now I picked up midrange hunter since it's cheap and good to climb, this is the list:
I've gotten to rank 2 5 stars today, and now went on a 4 losing streak + disconnect to find myself back at rank 2 0 stars. I just don't know if I can do it, I face murloc paladin 40% of the time (literally from my stats) right now and it just doesn't feel fair. I can't really afford any others decks so I don't know If I can hit legend
If it's literally 40% of the time, run two hungry crabs. It's still a beast so it's not the worst thing in a hunter deck.
I don't own hungry crab and don't feel like using my only dust for an epic tech card.
I've been hitting R05 every month since the release of Old Gods - never made it to Legend, though. I got to R02 once during the discovery of Concede Shamans, but have never made it further.
At the moment I'm playing Flower Rogue, Miracle Priest and Midrange Paladin. Keep hitting R04 1/2, just to find myself hitting a losing-streak back to R05... any tips for a guy like me - desperate to hit Legend.
I hit rank 2 5 stars and then went on an 8 losing streak back to mid rank 3. I have counted and for my past 24 games 11 are murloc paladin, making it 46% of my matchups... I'm really tilted now and really doubting If I can even stay at rank 3 now, because it just feels like I'm going to drop straight to 5. I want to try other decks maybe even pirate warrior just to destroy murloc paladin but I can't afford any other decks than my midrange hunter...
Any suggestions, or anything really? I need any help I can get
Honestly, you should just keep at it, and the most common matchups might change. As you don't have the Hungry Crabs, you can't do anything more about it probably. I can only tell you my experience; I got to 1 star away from Legend, and then dropped all the way back to rank 2 with 1 star...had to climb back up, game by game. If you're tracking your games, see if you have at least a 60% winrate or so, you will have to play a lot of games but don't give up. Don't play anymore if you're on tilt, take a break and do something else for a while.
@iAardvark - try and play one deck only for a while, see if you have a decent winrate with it and stick to it...if you're playing a decent deck, changing it up is not a good strategy - you'll hit Legend as long as you maintain a decent winrate, might need more games than some, but you'll get there.
I reached rank 1 with miracle priest. It was great to finally be able to play my favorite class seriously again
Then I took a week off laddering and came back to everyone sticking primordial drake in all their decks. Mainly paladin. I fell down to rank 4 immediately. Legend seems not worth the effort now. Oh well
I made it to legend with my Elemental Lyra priest with some techs on the way.It was pretty easy to be honest.At least its easier than pirate warrior meta,cause i used to be a Jade Druid main.But even then,praise the Yogg.! Kappa
Currently on rank 3k and still climbing,maybe make it to top 100 till end of season.
BTW is this thread for people making it to legend for the first time?If yes im dumb lol xD I thought it is just for this season.
I'm REALLY liking the Quest Warrior version AUZG posted. I've been having a good record so far with it. Other versions of quest warrior I win 1 or 2 then lose 3. :)
I'm really trying for legend this season... Got to rank 1 a couple of weeks ago than slowly dropped back to zero stars in rank 5... I climbed back up to Rank 2 last week than dropped back to zero stars in rank 5 again... Currently sitting at rank 3... been playing mostly quest Rogue... Played Pirate Warrior for a while but I don't like the aggro playstyle as much and I want to hit legend with something other than Pirate Warrior... I've played some Murloc Paladin with some success but I think I'm going to try and stick with Rogue the rest of the way... Have finals next week so not sure I'll make it but I'll make the last push this weekend...
In truth, my goal wasn't even to hit legend this season, especially after getting it last season. I just wanted to get to Rank 5 and experiment in this new meta. Yet, I piloted a slightly refined version of control Paladin to legend after I hit a big streak with it from rank 5 to 3. Had some trouble in ranks 2 and 1, bounced around a little and floated around a 50% win rate, but ended up hitting another tear after reaching rank 1 for the 3rd time, going 7-2 into legend. Pretty proud of myself this month. Next month, planning to do it again.
I've been playing for 3 days straight and I'm going from rank 2-5 and from 5 back to 2 again. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? I've never been legend before but want to push for it this season.. Any tips anyone?
Swith between your decks, do not play with one in a row. Try to be in a good mood, do not take your defeats close to your heart. Thats it. Good luck mate!
I don't think switching decks is needed. No decks are a 100%, you WILL have rough patches and lose a few games in a row, but if your deck can have a decent chance to win against any other, you should stick with it imo, and you'll go on a winstreak at some point.
If you go on a tilt, play some brawls, arena or casual until you get your mind straight.
First time legend! I'm even happier because its a deck of my own design. I know, I know aggro murloc Paladin is all the rage now, but I made the first iteration the deck (below) on day 1 of Ungoro after failing hard with the Paladin quest, before everyone else and their mother was playing murloc pally. It took me from rank 20-3 in no time, but then I hit a wall because it struggled against taunt warrior, pirate warrior and hunter, which together were 50+% of all the opponents I was seeing at those ranks. I spent 2+ weeks bouncing between ranks 2-3 using various different midrange and control Paladin decks as the meta shifter, and eventually decided just to make some small changes to my original design, and there it is! Legend.
For Paladin decks, do you think Cult Master is better than Divine Favor? Near the end of season, there is lots of Aggro decks, esp hunter and other swamp board decks. It seems to not get much value from Divine Favor like Cult Master, which i could trade, draw cards and not worry about opponent having a small hand.
I finally hit legend after I started playing in April 2015 (at least that is my earliest card back).
I tried a variety of decks on my way, midrange hunter at rank 20-15, control paladin and quest rogue down to rank 5, from rank 5 I had huge success with control paladin by Boomtjalah but never made it past rank 3 and often bounced between rank 5-4-3.
Then I came across Trump's murloc paladin which changed everything for me. I had a crazy streak from rank 4 to rank 1 with perhaps 4 losses. Then it was a grind on rank one and the whole process from rank 2 to legend took me approximately 3 hours with 2 losses on final boss.
The best part of this journey was that the final boss was an extremely good Druid Y'Shaarj player which had me on the ropes several times but I played perhaps the best game I have ever done which finally got me the victory.
If I can do it then everyone can do it, so good luck to everyone on your way to legend and if you need any pointers on how I played the deck just pm me:)
@Nomorelol; Murloc Paladin is probably fine if you enjoy it, it's pretty solid against the field. Quest Rogue is so volatile in its matchups it feels like it would be rough to ladder with.
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Firstly, the sample size is pretty small (only 39 games), I didn't track my wins before hitting rank 2 - so the stats might be a little skewed.
Also, I have to say that one of the Midrange Hunters who beat me, added me afterwards and, after spectating a couple of my games, said, and I quote: "you have a lot of balls" xD
I was maybe a bit too greedy at times, but it paid off...someone will say it was luck, but one thing that everyone who attempts Legend (as I always knew) needs to keep in mind is, it's necessary to play quite a lot, and not take the losses too hard, because there will be ridiculous ones (and ridiculous wins too).
For example, the only Freeze Mage who beat me got an 8 mana Pyroblast from Primordial Glyph, which he got after getting Cabalist's Tome from Glyph, and a Fireball from the 3rd Glyph. He burst me down from like 30+ Armor.
As for the question about the board, I don't really think any more AoE is needed. Like all Control Warriors before, you have to think about what your opponent can do, and try and get the most value out of Brawl and other AoE like Primordial Drake (great thing about that one is it puts up a formidable Taunt, so it doesn't even have to clean up everything a lot of the time). As evidenced from my quite even winrates against the most common decks like Pirate Warrior, Murloc (Controlish and aggroish) Paladin and Rogue (Quest and Garden), I couldn't handle it everytime but I didn't get obliterated either. It depends on the quality of the player you're facing too.
Generally, you have to mulligan for Fiery War Axe, Armorsmith, and, if you're going 2nd, it might be good to get 1, or even 2 of the 3-Mana Taunts. You slow down the opponent, try your best to remove any high value targets you can, and Armor up as much as you can. My general gameplan was not for the Taunts to survive, but to soak up as much damage and minions as possible, and only when their resources are quite depleted, play Sulfuras and start pounding the opponent.
Draw was not really a problem, The Curator, 2x Slam, 2x Shield Block and even Stonehill Defender as a pseudo-draw was enough for me. Of course I sometimes wished I had more draw, but I don't really know what would I cut, and extra draw is kinda needed in every deck except Miracle Rogue tbh xD. Also, you have to be careful sometimes not to shuffle a Direhorn Matriarch into your deck, if you're digging for some removal or something.
Shield Slam was enough as a 1-of for me, because when I played with 2 (before hitting rank 2), I had quite a few games where I didn't have Armor and couldn't use it...
Hopefully, this helps you at least a bit, I'm not really good at writing guides xD
You can't stop the signal.
I've been hitting R05 every month since the release of Old Gods - never made it to Legend, though. I got to R02 once during the discovery of Concede Shamans, but have never made it further.
At the moment I'm playing Flower Rogue, Miracle Priest and Midrange Paladin. Keep hitting R04 1/2, just to find myself hitting a losing-streak back to R05... any tips for a guy like me - desperate to hit Legend.
I think everybody's nuts.
I hit rank 2 5 stars and then went on an 8 losing streak back to mid rank 3. I have counted and for my past 24 games 11 are murloc paladin, making it 46% of my matchups... I'm really tilted now and really doubting If I can even stay at rank 3 now, because it just feels like I'm going to drop straight to 5. I want to try other decks maybe even pirate warrior just to destroy murloc paladin but I can't afford any other decks than my midrange hunter...
Any suggestions, or anything really? I need any help I can get
Honestly, you should just keep at it, and the most common matchups might change. As you don't have the Hungry Crabs, you can't do anything more about it probably. I can only tell you my experience; I got to 1 star away from Legend, and then dropped all the way back to rank 2 with 1 star...had to climb back up, game by game. If you're tracking your games, see if you have at least a 60% winrate or so, you will have to play a lot of games but don't give up. Don't play anymore if you're on tilt, take a break and do something else for a while.
@iAardvark - try and play one deck only for a while, see if you have a decent winrate with it and stick to it...if you're playing a decent deck, changing it up is not a good strategy - you'll hit Legend as long as you maintain a decent winrate, might need more games than some, but you'll get there.
You can't stop the signal.
This is my history for my past 15 games... It's really bad and I just don't feel like I can make it.
http://imgur.com/a/uBmgg
I reached rank 1 with miracle priest. It was great to finally be able to play my favorite class seriously again
Then I took a week off laddering and came back to everyone sticking primordial drake in all their decks. Mainly paladin. I fell down to rank 4 immediately. Legend seems not worth the effort now. Oh well
Legend with : S65 Freeze Mage, S57 Maly Gonk Druid, S57 "Okay" Shaman, S53 Boom-zooka Hunter, S53 Maly Tog Druid, S52 Wild Tog Druid ft.Blingtron, S50 Quest Rogue, S49 Dead Man's Warrior, S41 Wild Clown Fiesta Druid, S41 Hadronox Jade Druid, S40 Wild OTK Dragon Druid, S35 SMOrc Shaman, S33 Jade Druid, S22 Control Priest, S19 Control Priest
I made it to legend with my Elemental Lyra priest with some techs on the way.It was pretty easy to be honest.At least its easier than pirate warrior meta,cause i used to be a Jade Druid main.But even then,praise the Yogg.! Kappa
Currently on rank 3k and still climbing,maybe make it to top 100 till end of season.
BTW is this thread for people making it to legend for the first time?If yes im dumb lol xD I thought it is just for this season.
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I'm REALLY liking the Quest Warrior version AUZG posted. I've been having a good record so far with it. Other versions of quest warrior I win 1 or 2 then lose 3. :)
Thanks! And don't get disheartened if you hit a losing streak, it CAN happen! ;)
You can't stop the signal.
I'm really trying for legend this season... Got to rank 1 a couple of weeks ago than slowly dropped back to zero stars in rank 5... I climbed back up to Rank 2 last week than dropped back to zero stars in rank 5 again... Currently sitting at rank 3... been playing mostly quest Rogue... Played Pirate Warrior for a while but I don't like the aggro playstyle as much and I want to hit legend with something other than Pirate Warrior... I've played some Murloc Paladin with some success but I think I'm going to try and stick with Rogue the rest of the way... Have finals next week so not sure I'll make it but I'll make the last push this weekend...
In truth, my goal wasn't even to hit legend this season, especially after getting it last season. I just wanted to get to Rank 5 and experiment in this new meta. Yet, I piloted a slightly refined version of control Paladin to legend after I hit a big streak with it from rank 5 to 3. Had some trouble in ranks 2 and 1, bounced around a little and floated around a 50% win rate, but ended up hitting another tear after reaching rank 1 for the 3rd time, going 7-2 into legend. Pretty proud of myself this month. Next month, planning to do it again.
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Good luck mate!
I don't think switching decks is needed. No decks are a 100%, you WILL have rough patches and lose a few games in a row, but if your deck can have a decent chance to win against any other, you should stick with it imo, and you'll go on a winstreak at some point.
If you go on a tilt, play some brawls, arena or casual until you get your mind straight.
You can't stop the signal.
First time legend! I'm even happier because its a deck of my own design. I know, I know aggro murloc Paladin is all the rage now, but I made the first iteration the deck (below) on day 1 of Ungoro after failing hard with the Paladin quest, before everyone else and their mother was playing murloc pally. It took me from rank 20-3 in no time, but then I hit a wall because it struggled against taunt warrior, pirate warrior and hunter, which together were 50+% of all the opponents I was seeing at those ranks. I spent 2+ weeks bouncing between ranks 2-3 using various different midrange and control Paladin decks as the meta shifter, and eventually decided just to make some small changes to my original design, and there it is! Legend.
For Paladin decks, do you think Cult Master is better than Divine Favor? Near the end of season, there is lots of Aggro decks, esp hunter and other swamp board decks. It seems to not get much value from Divine Favor like Cult Master, which i could trade, draw cards and not worry about opponent having a small hand.
I finally hit legend after I started playing in April 2015 (at least that is my earliest card back).
I tried a variety of decks on my way, midrange hunter at rank 20-15, control paladin and quest rogue down to rank 5, from rank 5 I had huge success with control paladin by Boomtjalah but never made it past rank 3 and often bounced between rank 5-4-3.
I then changed to a miracle rogue list by Mage which I had great success with but again bounced between rank 4-3 (http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/mages-miracle-rogue-4-legend-april-2017-season-37/).
Then I came across Trump's murloc paladin which changed everything for me. I had a crazy streak from rank 4 to rank 1 with perhaps 4 losses. Then it was a grind on rank one and the whole process from rank 2 to legend took me approximately 3 hours with 2 losses on final boss.
The deck I used can be found here
The best part of this journey was that the final boss was an extremely good Druid Y'Shaarj player which had me on the ropes several times but I played perhaps the best game I have ever done which finally got me the victory.
If I can do it then everyone can do it, so good luck to everyone on your way to legend and if you need any pointers on how I played the deck just pm me:)
@Nomorelol; Murloc Paladin is probably fine if you enjoy it, it's pretty solid against the field. Quest Rogue is so volatile in its matchups it feels like it would be rough to ladder with.
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