I know the meta has not come close to settling but jesus Jade Druid decks are every where. What are you guys doing to combat this new cancer? I am more of a control'ish player and Jade Druid wrecks slow decks.
Play fast decks. And before everyone goes "great now it's just aggro cancer meta", this is exactly the way a meta should work. Jade gets smoked by fast decks, but wins against anything slower than it. If everyone starts playing aggro, people turn to control/Reno to counter it, which then brings about Jade again to counter those. By being so polarising, Jade decks *should* help keep the rock/paper/scissors of the meta rolling.
takes away cancer combo druid and druid is then normal like all other classes then BAM here we give you more cancer then beffor. they have one week 2 nerf it or else i stop play this gay game
takes away cancer combo druid and druid is then normal like all other classes then BAM here we give you more cancer then beffor. they have one week 2 nerf it or else i stop play this gay game
I haven't tried this, but on paper Freeze Mage should destroy Jade Druid.
Jade Deuid is pretty slow, and even on their largest turns they don't deal burst damage, they just get a massive board.
And freeze Mage is notorious for ignoring massive boards
they don't really have anything to threaten the Mage in the early game, and by the time they get their combo going, the Mage should have drawn everything they need to kill the Druid. And even if they don't, they can buy enough time for themselves after the combo.
Jade is hard countered by aggro as itself is the hard counter to heavy control and fatigue decks. You can't expect to win every game with a static deck type.
If you don't want to play aggro, play some form of tempo-oriented control deck with a lot of removal. You solidify your early game tempo gains by using removals to keep their weak minions in check.
I literally have yet to lose against a single JD deck and I'm running Reno Lock and Dragon Priest/Warrior. JDs are slow and their early game sucks.
stalling and getting those golems off the board will help you enough to win the game. Sap + vanish if you are playing rogue the rest of the heroes have sufficient board clears
When I'm playing my Jade Druid deck, half of my losses come when I don't have a proper answer to Ragnaros. I've tuned my deck to match up better against aggro, so I don't get sacked very often anymore.
I feel like hearthstone is actually in a worse spot then it was before. There is literally only 3 tier 1 decks right now and the gap between tier 1 and 2 is HUGEEEEEE!
The end all be all control deck is Jade Druid. Literally nothing even compares to it. Thats how broken it is.
The absolute best aggro deck is pirate warrior. Literally nothing even compares.
And the only deck inbetween is midrange shaman whic has a above average chance to beat both.
The only other deck that is worth playing is some variation of renolock and god damn if you don't draw exactly what you need when you need it then gg.
I feel like hearthstone is actually in a worse spot then it was before. There is literally only 3 tier 1 decks right now and the gap between tier 1 and 2 is HUGEEEEEE!
The end all be all control deck is Jade Druid. Literally nothing even compares to it. Thats how broken it is.
The absolute best aggro deck is pirate warrior. Literally nothing even compares.
And the only deck inbetween is midrange shaman whic has a above average chance to beat both.
The only other deck that is worth playing is some variation of renolock and god damn if you don't draw exactly what you need when you need it then gg.
You've been watching too much Kripp and not playing enough Hearthstone.
With my renolock im doing Pretty well against jade druid..sure, i lose every now and then, but i think the wins are more. Also when i lose is always very close. Once he was at topdeck, i had 2 10 mana spell from Brann+Kazakus. One was "gain 10 armor, freeze 3 random enemy". The other was " turn all minion into sheeps, summon 3 minion who died". I was with 9 LP, he had jade spirit, 1 golem 6/6,1 jade golem 7/7, one 8/8. I decided to go for the sheeps, but he topdecked swipe, hero power and then four sheeps face. I wouldnt call it cancer (even if jade idol is really OP), so far i like the new meta :)
So far my OKish c'thun druid (which won't let me get out of rank 20 WTF?) has actually won both games against pretty decent jade golem decks, however I did have to make one noticeable change INCLUDE Doomcaller from the games that I've played YOU NEED TO PLAY C'Thun as soon as you have at least 12/12 on it, when you have no other options (I don't as I don't have twin emperor and other legendaries because being card poor sucks). I had to play it to wipe out the opponent's board or at least get close to it, most importantly their Gadgetzan auctioneer, then with in the next 2-3 turns the C'thun will die, because of either mulching or because a minion that only has to attack the hero twice to win is sort of a big jade golem target. Jade Golem has now made it where C'thun CAN AND WILL DIE, however the important thing is that it is used to help clear the board, and that's what's REALLY needed when playing against JD
I have found a control deck with a duck ton of sweeper has done well for me vs Jade. Although I will admit, only 30 games into my latest build for control
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I know the meta has not come close to settling but jesus Jade Druid decks are every where. What are you guys doing to combat this new cancer? I am more of a control'ish player and Jade Druid wrecks slow decks.
Play fast decks. And before everyone goes "great now it's just aggro cancer meta", this is exactly the way a meta should work. Jade gets smoked by fast decks, but wins against anything slower than it. If everyone starts playing aggro, people turn to control/Reno to counter it, which then brings about Jade again to counter those. By being so polarising, Jade decks *should* help keep the rock/paper/scissors of the meta rolling.
takes away cancer combo druid and druid is then normal like all other classes then BAM here we give you more cancer then beffor. they have one week 2 nerf it or else i stop play this gay game
I haven't tried this, but on paper Freeze Mage should destroy Jade Druid.
Jade Deuid is pretty slow, and even on their largest turns they don't deal burst damage, they just get a massive board.
And freeze Mage is notorious for ignoring massive boards
they don't really have anything to threaten the Mage in the early game, and by the time they get their combo going, the Mage should have drawn everything they need to kill the Druid. And even if they don't, they can buy enough time for themselves after the combo.
"Science isn't about why! Its about why not!"
Jade is hard countered by aggro as itself is the hard counter to heavy control and fatigue decks. You can't expect to win every game with a static deck type.
play any deck above turtle-speed and you should win
If you don't want to play aggro, play some form of tempo-oriented control deck with a lot of removal. You solidify your early game tempo gains by using removals to keep their weak minions in check.
I literally have yet to lose against a single JD deck and I'm running Reno Lock and Dragon Priest/Warrior. JDs are slow and their early game sucks.
stalling and getting those golems off the board will help you enough to win the game. Sap + vanish if you are playing rogue the rest of the heroes have sufficient board clears
So you thought only Mage had an exodia combo eh
I'm going to suggest you stop calling decks that counter your preferred deck/playstyle cancer.
As mentioned above rock/paper/scissors. Everything will find balance.
Play Jade Rogue and outtempo the dumb Druids.
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My mandibles which are capable of pressing down and tearing, my talons which are known to intercept and hold.
When I'm playing my Jade Druid deck, half of my losses come when I don't have a proper answer to Ragnaros. I've tuned my deck to match up better against aggro, so I don't get sacked very often anymore.
I feel like hearthstone is actually in a worse spot then it was before. There is literally only 3 tier 1 decks right now and the gap between tier 1 and 2 is HUGEEEEEE!
The end all be all control deck is Jade Druid. Literally nothing even compares to it. Thats how broken it is.
The absolute best aggro deck is pirate warrior. Literally nothing even compares.
And the only deck inbetween is midrange shaman whic has a above average chance to beat both.
The only other deck that is worth playing is some variation of renolock and god damn if you don't draw exactly what you need when you need it then gg.
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My mandibles which are capable of pressing down and tearing, my talons which are known to intercept and hold.
With my renolock im doing Pretty well against jade druid..sure, i lose every now and then, but i think the wins are more. Also when i lose is always very close. Once he was at topdeck, i had 2 10 mana spell from Brann+Kazakus. One was "gain 10 armor, freeze 3 random enemy". The other was " turn all minion into sheeps, summon 3 minion who died". I was with 9 LP, he had jade spirit, 1 golem 6/6,1 jade golem 7/7, one 8/8. I decided to go for the sheeps, but he topdecked swipe, hero power and then four sheeps face. I wouldnt call it cancer (even if jade idol is really OP), so far i like the new meta :)
So far my OKish c'thun druid (which won't let me get out of rank 20 WTF?) has actually won both games against pretty decent jade golem decks, however I did have to make one noticeable change INCLUDE Doomcaller from the games that I've played YOU NEED TO PLAY C'Thun as soon as you have at least 12/12 on it, when you have no other options (I don't as I don't have twin emperor and other legendaries because being card poor sucks). I had to play it to wipe out the opponent's board or at least get close to it, most importantly their Gadgetzan auctioneer, then with in the next 2-3 turns the C'thun will die, because of either mulching or because a minion that only has to attack the hero twice to win is sort of a big jade golem target. Jade Golem has now made it where C'thun CAN AND WILL DIE, however the important thing is that it is used to help clear the board, and that's what's REALLY needed when playing against JD
It's pretty easy actually.
Just hit 'em in the face. They can't do anything and just die.
I have found a control deck with a duck ton of sweeper has done well for me vs Jade. Although I will admit, only 30 games into my latest build for control