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It doesn't seem like the new expansion is pushing much of anything. It's very "meh" to be honest. A bunch of cards where some might find a new home in some decks, but nothing that will be very game-changing.
We'll see some decks built up around barnes, and that's pretty much it I think.
Turns out maelstrom portal is an awesome control card. I made a control shaman that actually beats aggro. Here's the problem... I am no longer seeing ANY aggro decks on ladder. After maybe 20 games. Maybe this is a coincidence. Maybe people are just practicing control decks before Barnes comes out. Maybe people are trying out priest of the feast at the moment. I dunno. But I'm seeing lots more priest, no aggro.
I feel like some people who play aggro decks are retards cuz I played my Dragon Mage deck and I went a against a Zoolock who always hits face and then I just board clear and instantly win. Idk why but everytime I go against an aggro deck, they keep forgetting that you have to hit the taunt minions.
Whenever i play wild i face 50 - 55 % control deck's, 20-25 % secret paladin (which you can tech against or play some decks that are good against it like patron warrior), 15 % otk/burn decks and 5-10 % funky homebrew decks (like dragon mage, flood priest or mill mage)
tempo and agro are different types of decks. again we come to the overload mechanic (and don't say they can remove it, no one runs that) it's not exactly efficient or tempo when you are stuck being able to do nothing because of overload. In tempo deck there should be a smooth mana curve right from the start... overload just doesn't work in a tempo deck, it's why there is no tempo shaman (that I have seen at least.. and they wouldn't have the 4 mana7/7 anyway.. that card is barely being used now)... you get mid shaman, agro shaman, control shaman... never seen a tempo shaman... and like you even pointed out... I'm a new player, dude!
You are just taking what I've said out of context again. agro or face decks completely ignore the board where as tempo decks take favourable trades and only switch to smorc mode once the timing is right.
anyway dude, not really going to argue about it, everyone is entitled to their opinions, especially about HS. I have played tempo and agro decks and they definitely play differently..
and trump tends to get shit right, also he's funny.. I like him... what's wrong with trump?
Control will never die, warrior has control cards that work against fast and slow decks alike. This is a good thing but other classes need such cards to compete in the meta. All the aggro decks force control to play against them and warrior is the only one that competes.
Just fill your deck with one drops, that is creative deck design, right?
all I'm saying is tempo and agro are not the same thing.
Saying I know "nothing" about the game as well, well that's the most ridiculous statement ever. I mean the standard hearthstone card back is blue... even if that was the sum of my knowledge, it would still be more than nothing, as it is something. I understand you probably didn't mean it literally, but you're actually just handing me the ammo at this point!
Even in magic the gathering, tempo and agro are not the same thing, they never have been and never will be!
You can keep saying I know nothing and bring up single cards and use them as an argument all you want.. the fact still remains that tempo and agro are not the same thing.
PS: I wasn't taking trumps word as gospel, I was just paraphrasing someone with more credibility as you never seem to want to listen to what I have to say.
I am honestly not contesting that the 4 mana 7/7 is nuts.. all I'm saying is that tempo and agro are different things. maybe the "make more efficient plays" description wasn't the best way to describe it.
Anyway dude, I enjoy these little debates.
Ho ho ho, another player who thinks Zoo's aggro.
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Someone is actually arguing that aggro and tempo are the same thing?
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Pre-standard zoo was really a tempo deck, now it's more aggro than tempo... Demonzoo was a midrange deck, with some tempo plays in there, but essentially a cool midrange deck. But with zoo, it all depends who you play against. If you're up against aggro Shaman, you play control. If you play against midrange Druid, you're aggro. Its role changes quite often, but every zoolock deck is full of tempo plays regardless. In Wild, the best Zoolock deck is a tempo/combo deck, where you finish with something like Leeroy+PO+Soulfire for 14, for only 7 mana.
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Control implies Zoo is a reactive deck. It is not. At minimum it's a tempo deck. Accelerating the amount of stuff you can get on board with the mana given. There is no situation where Zoolock in this meta is at any point a control deck. Just because there's an emphasis on board control does not make Zoo a "control" deck.
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Control decks will come out when the meta settles. It's hard to tune a control deck when you don't know the decks to build against.