So blizz said that your MM takes into account ur mercs EQUIPED inventory, but I have unequipped everything and got matched against a guy with 4 level 30s with maxxed level 7 equipment twice in a row (couldnt see rest of his mercs because well i got destroyed obviously).
Anyone else experienced this as well? I feel its matching with what you have UNLOCKED not EQUIPPED.
edit: 10 matches now of diff opponents with maxed equipment, like how do you even compete? People who farmed tasks pre-nerf are way ahead. Dropped from 6900 to 6000
So blizz said that your MM takes into account ur mercs EQUIPED inventory, but I have unequipped everything and got matched against a guy with 4 level 30s with maxxed level 7 equipment twice in a row (couldnt see rest of his mercs because well i got destroyed obviously).
Anyone else experienced this as well? I feel its matching with what you have UNLOCKED not EQUIPPED.
edit: 10 matches now of diff opponents with maxed equipment, like how do you even compete? People who farmed tasks pre-nerf are way ahead. Dropped from 6900 to 6000
You are not meant to compete unless you spend lots of money
The problem is not spending money. You need task 7 equipment to be competitive in pvp. You can spend all the money you want but it will not get you task 7 equipment. The game needs another way you can work for tasks for specific mercs. The current way of maybe getting a stranger task from a portal is super grindy now that they nerfed mysterious stranger. I agree it was a little too easy the way it was, but now it will take forever. Let's say I want to get Gruul's task 7 equipment so I have a tech against all the stupid fire combo decks. I currently have only done a task 1 for him. The only time I maybe see stranger visits now is in really hard maps. So, I have to make many trips to just maybe get a mysterious stranger task, and it may not even show me the option for Gruul.
Overall I find the game mode enjoyable, but the task progression via mysterious stranger is dumb and needs to be reworked.
So blizz said that your MM takes into account ur mercs EQUIPED inventory, but I have unequipped everything and got matched against a guy with 4 level 30s with maxxed level 7 equipment twice in a row (couldnt see rest of his mercs because well i got destroyed obviously).
Anyone else experienced this as well? I feel its matching with what you have UNLOCKED not EQUIPPED.
edit: 10 matches now of diff opponents with maxed equipment, like how do you even compete? People who farmed tasks pre-nerf are way ahead. Dropped from 6900 to 6000
Are you running into real people or AI?
I think if AI (Your Opponent) that Blizz gives AI better stuff than you to compensate for the AI being... AI
The problem is not spending money. You need task 7 equipment to be competitive in pvp. You can spend all the money you want but it will not get you task 7 equipment. The game needs another way you can work for tasks for specific mercs. The current way of maybe getting a stranger task from a portal is super grindy now that they nerfed mysterious stranger. I agree it was a little too easy the way it was, but now it will take forever. Let's say I want to get Gruul's task 7 equipment so I have a tech against all the stupid fire combo decks. I currently have only done a task 1 for him. The only time I maybe see stranger visits now is in really hard maps. So, I have to make many trips to just maybe get a mysterious stranger task, and it may not even show me the option for Gruul.
Overall I find the game mode enjoyable, but the task progression via mysterious stranger is dumb and needs to be reworked.
They already reworked it, are you enjoying the change?
Oh wait when it says your opponent that means it AI?? I thought like traditional HS sometimes u get your opponent but its just a player!
But my point is why do I compete with players with full rank 7 equipment when i dont have any in my specific party (i own for other mercs) but sometimes u want to try fun stuff you know like Demon builds or whatever.
They should add a "non-equipment" fighting pit just because as many have stated in other posts as well ppl who cheesed fast level 7 equipment are just being more "competitive".
The game mode is "fun" but nowhere near "fair" , like in standard HS we all have access to the same card collection, but here you must pray that you have the correct level 7 equipment via tasks you cannot control
Stop complaining about money. If you don't have task 7 equipment the only thing it means is that you didn't take the time to farm it. It's totally free equipment, you just gotta invest time in it. And saying 'tasks you cannot control' is just stupid. If you want a specific task then bring a smaller party to the bounty to guarantee the mysterious stranger gives you the option you want.
Since the mysterious stranger nerf I've farmed like 40+ tasks in Felwood 6 and I've nearly got every merc maxed by now. I enjoy the slow farm while watching tv. That felwood bounty gives you a stranger like 50% of times, but let's say you are unlucky and get 33% it's still not that much of a time investment. Reset the bounty if you gotta do more than 2 fights to reach it, and that way you will get a stranger every ~4-6 fights, which means a stranger every 4-6min or something. Then if you have a good clearing combo (Velen+Anduin, Anto+Geddon or anything with beasts) it's only a littlebit slower than it used to be, but with the upside of giving better random coin rewards. (epic+legendary too!)
If you are either lazy or lack the time and therefor don't own task 7equipment you can't expect the matchmaking to put you against the same kind of people at 6k+ rating. I think at a certain rating you should let go of your excuses and just match those that maxed out their equipment like i.m.o. every competitive pvp player should. Don't say pay2win on maxing out equipment, it's literally only a time investment after you've gotten the actual merc itself.
nobody is complaining about money so get off your high horse. People who cheesed tasked are ahead, and the MM isnt working as intended.
And no you cannot control tasks, because you have 6 in your party so its not guaranteed to get the one you want. Yes its a grind as it should be but some ppl have advantage has nothing to do with being lazy.
nobody is complaining about money so get off your high horse. People who cheesed tasked are ahead, and the MM isnt working as intended.
And no you cannot control tasks, because you have 6 in your party so its not guaranteed to get the one you want. Yes its a grind as it should be but some ppl have advantage has nothing to do with being lazy.
I'm quite sure that mm is working as intended, there just aren't enough people without max gear to queue you in passable time. In my last 8 games I had 4 max out opponents (with waiting time >2 min) and 4 not (all with waiting < 2 min). I don't know if 2 min is exactly the time limit after with you are matched if anyone free but I'm quite convinced that there is some sort of time limit.
Also time=money so you need to invest more of one or the other.
nobody is complaining about money so get off your high horse. People who cheesed tasked are ahead, and the MM isnt working as intended.
And no you cannot control tasks, because you have 6 in your party so its not guaranteed to get the one you want. Yes its a grind as it should be but some ppl have advantage has nothing to do with being lazy.
It's not much of a grind, honestly. if you have mainly mercs without Qs in your party, or already have their Q, then you're guaranteed a Q for the others. Even BRM normals is a good 80%+ stranger, I've found. It literally took me no more than 11 BRM N (Coren, if you're wondering) runs to get Malf from zero to his OP (for PvE) weap. The impact of removing grinding easiest bounties for tasks is heavily overstated.
And those 11 runs include doing the bounties, other than the healing one which took a diversion.
Time = money on a work Day. If its a weekend than no Time does not = money. Play when during the weekend or when ur at home. If u dont want to spend the time than this isnt for u so go Play something else instead.
And no you cannot control tasks, because you have 6 in your party so its not guaranteed to get the one you want. Yes its a grind as it should be but some ppl have advantage has nothing to do with being lazy.
Wrong. You can even do tasks with only 1 merc if you want. You don't have to have 6. If I want to get specific tasks I bring 3 mercs that already did all of them and 3 mercs that have tasks left. Then that way I always get to choose one out of the same 3.
Technically, if you want to get 1 specific task you could just do the bounty with a team of 3 (so not finish the party!) and you'll always have the option to choose out of those 3.
And about this 'advantage' you talk about. I barely farmed tasks on elemental. I've done most of my farming on felwood lvl 28 bounty. This advantage will soon be gone, since people are starting to max out all their mercs soon enough. It's some kind of a headstart, but since there's a pretty managable cealing it'll soon even out.
So blizz said that your MM takes into account ur mercs EQUIPED inventory, but I have unequipped everything and got matched against a guy with 4 level 30s with maxxed level 7 equipment twice in a row (couldnt see rest of his mercs because well i got destroyed obviously).
Anyone else experienced this as well? I feel its matching with what you have UNLOCKED not EQUIPPED.
edit: 10 matches now of diff opponents with maxed equipment, like how do you even compete? People who farmed tasks pre-nerf are way ahead.
Dropped from 6900 to 6000
You are not meant to compete unless you spend lots of money
The problem is not spending money. You need task 7 equipment to be competitive in pvp. You can spend all the money you want but it will not get you task 7 equipment. The game needs another way you can work for tasks for specific mercs. The current way of maybe getting a stranger task from a portal is super grindy now that they nerfed mysterious stranger. I agree it was a little too easy the way it was, but now it will take forever. Let's say I want to get Gruul's task 7 equipment so I have a tech against all the stupid fire combo decks. I currently have only done a task 1 for him. The only time I maybe see stranger visits now is in really hard maps. So, I have to make many trips to just maybe get a mysterious stranger task, and it may not even show me the option for Gruul.
Overall I find the game mode enjoyable, but the task progression via mysterious stranger is dumb and needs to be reworked.
Are you running into real people or AI?
I think if AI (Your Opponent) that Blizz gives AI better stuff than you to compensate for the AI being... AI
They already reworked it, are you enjoying the change?
Oh wait when it says your opponent that means it AI?? I thought like traditional HS sometimes u get your opponent but its just a player!
But my point is why do I compete with players with full rank 7 equipment when i dont have any in my specific party (i own for other mercs) but sometimes u want to try fun stuff you know like Demon builds or whatever.
They should add a "non-equipment" fighting pit just because as many have stated in other posts as well ppl who cheesed fast level 7 equipment are just being more "competitive".
The game mode is "fun" but nowhere near "fair" , like in standard HS we all have access to the same card collection, but here you must pray that you have the correct level 7 equipment via tasks you cannot control
Stop complaining about money. If you don't have task 7 equipment the only thing it means is that you didn't take the time to farm it. It's totally free equipment, you just gotta invest time in it. And saying 'tasks you cannot control' is just stupid. If you want a specific task then bring a smaller party to the bounty to guarantee the mysterious stranger gives you the option you want.
Since the mysterious stranger nerf I've farmed like 40+ tasks in Felwood 6 and I've nearly got every merc maxed by now. I enjoy the slow farm while watching tv. That felwood bounty gives you a stranger like 50% of times, but let's say you are unlucky and get 33% it's still not that much of a time investment. Reset the bounty if you gotta do more than 2 fights to reach it, and that way you will get a stranger every ~4-6 fights, which means a stranger every 4-6min or something.
Then if you have a good clearing combo (Velen+Anduin, Anto+Geddon or anything with beasts) it's only a littlebit slower than it used to be, but with the upside of giving better random coin rewards. (epic+legendary too!)
If you are either lazy or lack the time and therefor don't own task 7equipment you can't expect the matchmaking to put you against the same kind of people at 6k+ rating. I think at a certain rating you should let go of your excuses and just match those that maxed out their equipment like i.m.o. every competitive pvp player should. Don't say pay2win on maxing out equipment, it's literally only a time investment after you've gotten the actual merc itself.
nobody is complaining about money so get off your high horse. People who cheesed tasked are ahead, and the MM isnt working as intended.
And no you cannot control tasks, because you have 6 in your party so its not guaranteed to get the one you want. Yes its a grind as it should be but some ppl have advantage has nothing to do with being lazy.
I'm quite sure that mm is working as intended, there just aren't enough people without max gear to queue you in passable time. In my last 8 games I had 4 max out opponents (with waiting time >2 min) and 4 not (all with waiting < 2 min). I don't know if 2 min is exactly the time limit after with you are matched if anyone free but I'm quite convinced that there is some sort of time limit.
Also time=money so you need to invest more of one or the other.
It's not much of a grind, honestly. if you have mainly mercs without Qs in your party, or already have their Q, then you're guaranteed a Q for the others. Even BRM normals is a good 80%+ stranger, I've found. It literally took me no more than 11 BRM N (Coren, if you're wondering) runs to get Malf from zero to his OP (for PvE) weap. The impact of removing grinding easiest bounties for tasks is heavily overstated.
And those 11 runs include doing the bounties, other than the healing one which took a diversion.
Time = money on a work Day. If its a weekend than no Time does not = money. Play when during the weekend or when ur at home. If u dont want to spend the time than this isnt for u so go Play something else instead.
Wrong. You can even do tasks with only 1 merc if you want. You don't have to have 6. If I want to get specific tasks I bring 3 mercs that already did all of them and 3 mercs that have tasks left. Then that way I always get to choose one out of the same 3.
Technically, if you want to get 1 specific task you could just do the bounty with a team of 3 (so not finish the party!) and you'll always have the option to choose out of those 3.
And about this 'advantage' you talk about. I barely farmed tasks on elemental. I've done most of my farming on felwood lvl 28 bounty. This advantage will soon be gone, since people are starting to max out all their mercs soon enough. It's some kind of a headstart, but since there's a pretty managable cealing it'll soon even out.