I have an honest question about the duel mode: Is there any information on how the classes you are offered are determined?
Judging from my experience, I find it hard to believe it could be totally random. There are some classes I get offered nearly every time (Hunter and Druid stand out) and some that I get offered basically never (especially Shaman and Warlock).
Has anyone similar experiences? I know about variance, bias and small sample sizes, but damn, it doesn't feel random at all.
Well, I didn't take notes. But from the top of my head I'd say, I've played duels about 20-30 times, got offered Shaman about 2-3 times, Warlock about 2-4 times, Druid about 10-15 and Hunter about 15-20.
Probably I'm biased and just don't remember correctly, it just seems very odd.
The same way arena picks are chosen, its a dice roll. Not to mention that whole system of dueling is broken and stupid.
That's some strange die. And since I have mathematical background, I should know.
I don't even wanna play Duels that badly, but they're a nice way of achieving those rewards that grant xp. Well, if I could manage to play the classes I'd like to.
Ill counter that. I played around 10 duel games and 6 of them were Demon Hunter. Didnt even know (back then) that DH is op, I just wanted to lvl up that class.
The urge to call on Blizz is strong, we all know it. Just imagine what would have to happen for ur thesis to be true ? Some1 in california monitoring ur account and purposefully sticking druid into ur interface ? Different code in ur client ? :)
Ill counter that. I played around 10 duel games and 6 of them were Demon Hunter. Didnt even know (back then) that DH is op, I just wanted to lvl up that class.
The urge to call on Blizz is strong, we all know it. Just imagine what would have to happen for ur thesis to be true ? Some1 in california monitoring ur account and purposefully sticking druid into ur interface ? Different code in ur client ? :)
I didn't mean to indicate that I was in any way target of a manipulation. I just wasn't sure (because I couldn't find that information after a quick search), how the offers are determined. I mean, it would be perfectly possible for an algorithm to offer you classes more often if you picked them recently. Since Druid and Hunter were among my first duels, that would have been an explanation. I don't know why anyone would implement it that way, but it's perfectly possible.
So I was just looking out for information whether other users had the same experience. I'm not one to complain about supposedly rigged rng in general, because I know that most of the time the reason for observations people make is just that they're biased and know little about statistics. But if you experience something that might be possible due to high variance and small sample size, but is still highly unlikely, it's fair to at least check out other views on that issue.
To shed light on my point of view: At the time I opened this thread, i would swear under oath I had been offered neither Shaman nor Warlock in duels at least five times in a row, probably more like seven or even more. If my calculations are correct, the probability of that happening with fair rng are about 0.4%. It is possible, of course. But just not very common.
Funny thing is, the last duel I started I got offered both. Apparently complaining gave my Karma a boost. :D
However, that's it for me. Thanks for the replies.
every time you start new duels you're choosing 4 out of 10
and I would argue that in 20-30 duels its perfectly normal to see some classes more than the other because of the overlap that is bound to happen
I would be more concerned that the RNG was being manipulated if in such a low sample the split was close to even :)
That's a tough one, actually. We would have to count all the occasios that resemble my experience and then compare it to the number of scenarios where the class distribution is about uniform. I wouldn't dare a prognosis which is more likely. Maybe both are equally unlikely?
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I have an honest question about the duel mode: Is there any information on how the classes you are offered are determined?
Judging from my experience, I find it hard to believe it could be totally random. There are some classes I get offered nearly every time (Hunter and Druid stand out) and some that I get offered basically never (especially Shaman and Warlock).
Has anyone similar experiences? I know about variance, bias and small sample sizes, but damn, it doesn't feel random at all.
Ceterum censeo classum magi esse delendam.
The same way arena picks are chosen, its a dice roll. Not to mention that whole system of dueling is broken and stupid.
Give us the number of times you have tried to pick with classes offered each time, we will see if it is random or not.
Well, I didn't take notes. But from the top of my head I'd say, I've played duels about 20-30 times, got offered Shaman about 2-3 times, Warlock about 2-4 times, Druid about 10-15 and Hunter about 15-20.
Probably I'm biased and just don't remember correctly, it just seems very odd.
That's some strange die. And since I have mathematical background, I should know.
I don't even wanna play Duels that badly, but they're a nice way of achieving those rewards that grant xp. Well, if I could manage to play the classes I'd like to.
Ceterum censeo classum magi esse delendam.
Ill counter that. I played around 10 duel games and 6 of them were Demon Hunter. Didnt even know (back then) that DH is op, I just wanted to lvl up that class.
The urge to call on Blizz is strong, we all know it. Just imagine what would have to happen for ur thesis to be true ? Some1 in california monitoring ur account and purposefully sticking druid into ur interface ? Different code in ur client ? :)
every time you start new duels you're choosing 4 out of 10
and I would argue that in 20-30 duels its perfectly normal to see some classes more than the other because of the overlap that is bound to happen
I would be more concerned that the RNG was being manipulated if in such a low sample the split was close to even :)
I didn't mean to indicate that I was in any way target of a manipulation. I just wasn't sure (because I couldn't find that information after a quick search), how the offers are determined. I mean, it would be perfectly possible for an algorithm to offer you classes more often if you picked them recently. Since Druid and Hunter were among my first duels, that would have been an explanation. I don't know why anyone would implement it that way, but it's perfectly possible.
So I was just looking out for information whether other users had the same experience. I'm not one to complain about supposedly rigged rng in general, because I know that most of the time the reason for observations people make is just that they're biased and know little about statistics. But if you experience something that might be possible due to high variance and small sample size, but is still highly unlikely, it's fair to at least check out other views on that issue.
To shed light on my point of view: At the time I opened this thread, i would swear under oath I had been offered neither Shaman nor Warlock in duels at least five times in a row, probably more like seven or even more. If my calculations are correct, the probability of that happening with fair rng are about 0.4%. It is possible, of course. But just not very common.
Funny thing is, the last duel I started I got offered both. Apparently complaining gave my Karma a boost. :D
However, that's it for me. Thanks for the replies.
Ceterum censeo classum magi esse delendam.
That's a tough one, actually. We would have to count all the occasios that resemble my experience and then compare it to the number of scenarios where the class distribution is about uniform. I wouldn't dare a prognosis which is more likely. Maybe both are equally unlikely?
Ceterum censeo classum magi esse delendam.