But it can't be fast enough. With Eudora, or Millhouse, or Tirion or any other previous nerf target I can think of that had to happen for sanity of the players, aside from Deathwing/ratpack, she produces the most predictable and boring OP strategy I can think of. Everytime you are in a lobby with her and you see she got her pogos you know where its going. If murlocs are banned and the jandice pilot is even remotely competent you are playing for second.
People used to find pogos fun, but unless they fix her asap we're all going to be left with pogo PTSD.
agree, she's just busted with pogo, but still really strong running different team comps (murloc infinite discovers, brann infinite buffs, mamabear->hydra buff)
Another possible nerf could be that the minion swapped out gets frozen for this turn (so you cannot buy it back on the same turn). This will slow down the Pogos build considerably but would not kill Jandice imo
Another possible nerf could be that the minion swapped out gets frozen for this turn (so you cannot buy it back on the same turn). This will slow down the Pogos build considerably but would not kill Jandice imo
i Actually really like this fix, it will be frozen or maybe dorment even, it will not take its spot (so you still get a full refresh) but it slows it down by a turn, and you cant do it back to back on the same minion. So either frozen or dorment, it might work
It'll be nerfed sooner or later I don't worry about it. It was like enduring Tirion.
It's not as bad as broken Hooktusk or even broken Eudora, at least with Jandice if there is Murlocs everyone gets as many poisonous Murlocs as possible.
If I get a lower tier hero and a bad opener and I see Jandice, I sometimes concede if I don't feel up to playing a rigged game. Bob can play for me.
MMR be damned.
And to be honest, I don't enjoy playing her either. It feels like major cheat.
I imagine pogos could just be removed from minion pool, right now they serve no purpose other than enabling cheese strategy for Brann and being cycled by Jandice.
Their purchase rate for other heroes is close to 0, and that's only because sometimes they're cycled to trigger kalecgos.
But it can't be fast enough. With Eudora, or Millhouse, or Tirion or any other previous nerf target I can think of that had to happen for sanity of the players, aside from Deathwing/ratpack, she produces the most predictable and boring OP strategy I can think of. Everytime you are in a lobby with her and you see she got her pogos you know where its going. If murlocs are banned and the jandice pilot is even remotely competent you are playing for second.
People used to find pogos fun, but unless they fix her asap we're all going to be left with pogo PTSD.
But it can't be fast enough. With Eudora, or Millhouse, or Tirion or any other previous nerf target I can think of that had to happen for sanity of the players, aside from Deathwing/ratpack, she produces the most predictable and boring OP strategy I can think of. Everytime you are in a lobby with her and you see she got her pogos you know where its going. If murlocs are banned and the jandice pilot is even remotely competent you are playing for second.
People used to find pogos fun, but unless they fix her asap we're all going to be left with pogo PTSD.
you're less than 6.5K arent you.
I am at 8k and she still plays the same way for the most part. They pretty much always go pogos and usually do very well. They even get second or first by essentially just going pogos without another build.
Pogos keeps all buf even Replicating Menace..., I fought vs player which had Saurolisk and Pogo swap always buffed him.., every game vs Jandice is the same... Pogos...
Just remove Pogo, that's it. It's extremely obnoxious with Jandice and completely useless with most other heroes. Jandice would still be strong with other stuff, but the most overpowered strategy would disappear.
But it can't be fast enough. With Eudora, or Millhouse, or Tirion or any other previous nerf target I can think of that had to happen for sanity of the players, aside from Deathwing/ratpack, she produces the most predictable and boring OP strategy I can think of. Everytime you are in a lobby with her and you see she got her pogos you know where its going. If murlocs are banned and the jandice pilot is even remotely competent you are playing for second.
People used to find pogos fun, but unless they fix her asap we're all going to be left with pogo PTSD.
you're less than 6.5K arent you.
lol, everybody knows she is a problem and here you are trying to show off, disappear already please.
Yes, she'll be nerfed soon, its inevitable...
But it can't be fast enough. With Eudora, or Millhouse, or Tirion or any other previous nerf target I can think of that had to happen for sanity of the players, aside from Deathwing/ratpack, she produces the most predictable and boring OP strategy I can think of. Everytime you are in a lobby with her and you see she got her pogos you know where its going. If murlocs are banned and the jandice pilot is even remotely competent you are playing for second.
People used to find pogos fun, but unless they fix her asap we're all going to be left with pogo PTSD.
agree, she's just busted with pogo, but still really strong running different team comps (murloc infinite discovers, brann infinite buffs, mamabear->hydra buff)
a possible nerf would be hero power cost 1, but then she will be so weak on early to mid game
Another possible nerf could be that the minion swapped out gets frozen for this turn (so you cannot buy it back on the same turn). This will slow down the Pogos build considerably but would not kill Jandice imo
i Actually really like this fix, it will be frozen or maybe dorment even, it will not take its spot (so you still get a full refresh) but it slows it down by a turn, and you cant do it back to back on the same minion. So either frozen or dorment, it might work
It'll be nerfed sooner or later I don't worry about it. It was like enduring Tirion.
It's not as bad as broken Hooktusk or even broken Eudora, at least with Jandice if there is Murlocs everyone gets as many poisonous Murlocs as possible.
If I get a lower tier hero and a bad opener and I see Jandice, I sometimes concede if I don't feel up to playing a rigged game. Bob can play for me.
MMR be damned.
And to be honest, I don't enjoy playing her either. It feels like major cheat.
I imagine pogos could just be removed from minion pool, right now they serve no purpose other than enabling cheese strategy for Brann and being cycled by Jandice.
Their purchase rate for other heroes is close to 0, and that's only because sometimes they're cycled to trigger kalecgos.
Piloted Shredder, Knife Juggler, Mad Scientist, Dr. Boom
Need to be removed from this game
tbh when I see jandice (not me myself) I aim at 2nd only. It's no way to beat her if she get two pogos
I don't really have any problem with jandice and Pogo. What I do love doing is Jandice and Battlemaster having that thick boi on 50/1254 oh man
you're less than 6.5K arent you.
I am at 8k and she still plays the same way for the most part. They pretty much always go pogos and usually do very well. They even get second or first by essentially just going pogos without another build.
Blizz will just nerf cost by 1. The blizz nerf dept only has one available option when it comes to nerfing anything. Increase cost by 1.
Pogos won't be removed for sure, because they are not really the problem.
My guess is that Jandice's hp will be nerfed to 1
Pogos keeps all buf even Replicating Menace..., I fought vs player which had Saurolisk and Pogo swap always buffed him.., every game vs Jandice is the same... Pogos...
Just remove Pogo, that's it. It's extremely obnoxious with Jandice and completely useless with most other heroes. Jandice would still be strong with other stuff, but the most overpowered strategy would disappear.
No I am currently 10.2k. Dumbass.
lol, everybody knows she is a problem and here you are trying to show off, disappear already please.
Built a board of poisnoues Murlocs and destroyed Pogo Jandice easily
I think if she swaps a minions, they shouldn't kept all the bafs.
"Just remove pogo"
Literally the logical thing.
Bran pogo was silly. Jandice is just braindead free big minions.
Fun > Meta