Doesn't matter what account I play or if I am playing casual or ranked its always fucking Uther sitting there waiting for me. Anyone else experiencing this? Honestly getting to the point where I don't want to login anymore since its getting beyond boring and predictable.
Blizzard its clear you have overpowered one class and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon en mass because why wouldn't they? Please fix this so we can play other classes and have fun again.
I said casual too not just ranked, playing on multiple accounts including free to play. Sometimes on free to play you just wanna get some dailies done and its impossible when your facing these same overpowered decks.
Yeah, I experience the same thing, cant help it, Paladin is a really strong class right now.
Tbh, most of the strategy games are similar, people want to play the strongest version (hero, weapon, unit, deck, class, etc whatever the best)
the problem isn't only that they are overpowered its that the game is getting boring to play in general when it is always the same class popping up so often. There are 9 classes in the game and when you always have a variety of them facing off against you it is exciting, thrilling and challenging. That is what I want from this game not Secret paladin smashing my face in with their perfect curve and overpowered cards.
You shouldn't complain but use this to your advantage! If you know that the meta is very paladin heavy then tech/build a deck to counter it. I do this all the time and it DOES work. Before someone replies to me saying "Wrong, Secret Paladin has no counter.." let me tell you that it does! Every deck has a counter (except for maybe old patron). Right now there are a few really good decks against Secret Paladin. For example, face hunter often beats it. This (last) season I used a tech'd control priest deck that had a 80% winrate vs Secret Paladins. Sometimes, when you think things are bad, they are in actual fact good. You just need to stop thinking about the bad.
That is fine when you have access to lots of decks. On the other hand if you are playing free to play accounts or you are a new player trying to build up one single deck, it leaves you very vulnerable to that deck if it counters you.
New players starting now are going to assume this Paladinstone and that is the only class they should play. As a result we are only going to see a greater influx of this shit populating the ladders. Only way to stop it is to nerf a card or two and bring this class back in line.
Honestly, I wish I faced as many paladins as you do. Last month I was laddering with control priest, and I was always happy when I saw Uther waiting for me!
heh yes lightbomb is a tasty solution to it I won't deny that but a lot of classes don't have such a nice tool in their toolbox.
You shouldn't complain but use this to your advantage! If you know that the meta is very paladin heavy then tech/build a deck to counter it. I do this all the time and it DOES work. Before someone replies to me saying "Wrong, Secret Paladin has no counter.." let me tell you that it does! Every deck has a counter (except for maybe old patron). Right now there are a few really good decks against Secret Paladin. For example, face hunter often beats it. This (last) season I used a tech'd control priest deck that had a 80% winrate vs Secret Paladins. Sometimes, when you think things are bad, they are in actual fact good. You just need to stop thinking about the bad.
That is fine when you have access to lots of decks. On the other hand if you are playing free to play accounts or you are a new player trying to build up one single deck, it leaves you very vulnerable to that deck if it counters you.
New players starting now are going to assume this Paladinstone and that is the only class they should play. As a result we are only going to see a greater influx of this shit populating the ladders. Only way to stop it is to nerf a card or two and bring this class back in line.
New players will not be facing Secret Paladins lol. They will be facing good old Golshire Footman and Reckless Rocketeers! I agree that it is very strong and no doubt a nerf will come (as it did with patron). If you are free to play it still doesn't stop you from making a counter, face hunter is the cheapest deck around buddy!
they won't at the start but if they have limited cash they are going to need to slowly build a collection. I have a free to play account that I am slowly building up and after only about a month its already mostly paladins with multiple epics, legendaries that I am faced with.
I've been experiencing the same thing but want to get a golden rogue anyway so I've been playing Oil. Its fun to crush secret pali's with a deck with a much higher skill cap. Still annoying to play against them though.
They are nerfing MC, they already said they are keeping a close watch on the card, which is the exact same thing they said with patron before nerfing it. On the other hand, how many midrange paladins are you facing? I love paladin and have been playing the class since I got tirion in one of my first packs back before Naxx and I always play midrange, with Quartermaster, Lay on Hands and such and honestly is not really strong now with all the priests, rogues and even secret paladin is a tough match if you don't get a good curve early. My point is, wait until they nerf MC and everyone who hated pally and just play it now because MC will go back to their face hunters.
They are nerfing MC, they already said they are keeping a close watch on the card, which is the exact same thing they said with patron before nerfing it. On the other hand, how many midrange paladins are you facing? I love paladin and have been playing the class since I got tirion in one of my first packs back before Naxx and I always play midrange, with Quartermaster, Lay on Hands and such and honestly is not really strong now with all the priests, rogues and even secret paladin is a tough match if you don't get a good curve early. My point is, wait until they nerf MC and everyone who hated pally and just play it now because MC will go back to their face hunters.
They are nerfing MC, they already said they are keeping a close watch on the card, which is the exact same thing they said with patron before nerfing it. On the other hand, how many midrange paladins are you facing? I love paladin and have been playing the class since I got tirion in one of my first packs back before Naxx and I always play midrange, with Quartermaster, Lay on Hands and such and honestly is not really strong now with all the priests, rogues and even secret paladin is a tough match if you don't get a good curve early. My point is, wait until they nerf MC and everyone who hated pally and just play it now because MC will go back to their face hunters.
no they didnt... lol
I'm pretty sure I saw this on this site a bit after TGT. I will try to find the link and post it.
They are nerfing MC, they already said they are keeping a close watch on the card, which is the exact same thing they said with patron before nerfing it. On the other hand, how many midrange paladins are you facing? I love paladin and have been playing the class since I got tirion in one of my first packs back before Naxx and I always play midrange, with Quartermaster, Lay on Hands and such and honestly is not really strong now with all the priests, rogues and even secret paladin is a tough match if you don't get a good curve early. My point is, wait until they nerf MC and everyone who hated pally and just play it now because MC will go back to their face hunters.
no they didnt... lol
Here it is:
"With the nerf to Warsong Commander and Patron Warrior, Mysterious Challenger and Secrets Paladin is considered quite powerful in the current meta. The designers like to mix it up and encourage players to select cards they otherwise never would have used (like the individual Paladin secrets). They continue to keep a close eye on Mysterious Challenger. Decks were originally built to focus on Patron Warrior but now decks are being built to target Secrets Paladin."
Seriously though, is there a hard counter to Secret Paladin? People say Oil and Freeze, but from what I've seen, the win rate is around 50% against them. Is there a deck out there (Control Priest?) that has a 60%+ win rate against them?
Sadly I didn't run into many paladins this season. I still see a decent number in arena, but it's down to under 25%. I actually like the vs paladin matchup too.
You can't blame people for wanting to play the strongest class at the moment. It's how they have fun playing the game, like it or not. If you're that upset about it, perhaps you could use a deck that's generally good against Paladins (Freeze Mage, Face Hunter, any Priest). Then again, there's the question of whether you actually enjoy playing those decks, huh? Which is why I like to say that instead of getting upset, it might be easier on yourself if you just accepted it and played whatever you want, anyway. Afterall, it's still just a game.
You shouldn't complain but use this to your advantage! If you know that the meta is very paladin heavy then tech/build a deck to counter it. I do this all the time and it DOES work. Before someone replies to me saying "Wrong, Secret Paladin has no counter.." let me tell you that it does! Every deck has a counter (except for maybe old patron). Right now there are a few really good decks against Secret Paladin. For example, face hunter often beats it. This (last) season I used a tech'd control priest deck that had a 80% winrate vs Secret Paladins. Sometimes, when you think things are bad, they are in actual fact good. You just need to stop thinking about the bad.
That is fine when you have access to lots of decks. On the other hand if you are playing free to play accounts or you are a new player trying to build up one single deck, it leaves you very vulnerable to that deck if it counters you.
New players starting now are going to assume this Paladinstone and that is the only class they should play. As a result we are only going to see a greater influx of this shit populating the ladders. Only way to stop it is to nerf a card or two and bring this class back in line.
And this is why they need to nerf Piloted Shredder and Dr. Boom. Before these two arrived, you could easily achive Rank 5 with any deck as long as you were a decent player. Even Basic decks could get you a good rank.
It's not that Dr. Boom can't be dealt with, it's that if you don't have the precise answer on the turn he's played, you lose the game on the spot.
If you have him you win a % of games just based on playing him, and you won't win that free Dr. Boom % if you don't play him.
And that difference has made Basic decks fall from Rank 5 to 15.
And Trump F2P account take 3+ months to get legend, and be nearly a constructed netdeck before he could get Legend. Before Dr. Boom and Piloted Shredder, he could get Legend with any class, only Basic cards, in a couple of days. Skill was so dominate at the time, and it was wonderful.
After Dr. Boom and Piloted Shredder, the most important thing is having the best 30 card netdeck. Don't know how to play? Zero skill? Doesn't matter as long as you buy the best cards. Don't have a few of those cards? Drop 10 ranks.
Big Game Hunter doesn't have the fun in his sights, Dr. Boom does. Without Dr. Boom, BGH would drop off the map, and so many other cards would see play. Jhonny decks would be somewhat viable again.
The Casual mode that is no longer casual is because Jhonny no longer can play this game. Timmy and Spike are only contenders.
They have completely alienated ~1/3 of their audience by not balancing these cards. And made the game horrible for new players.
Doesn't matter what account I play or if I am playing casual or ranked its always fucking Uther sitting there waiting for me. Anyone else experiencing this? Honestly getting to the point where I don't want to login anymore since its getting beyond boring and predictable.
Blizzard its clear you have overpowered one class and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon en mass because why wouldn't they? Please fix this so we can play other classes and have fun again.
Damn thats awesome I wish i could get a meta as predictable as that :/ freeze mage or control priest would give you such a high winrate :(
I said casual too not just ranked, playing on multiple accounts including free to play. Sometimes on free to play you just wanna get some dailies done and its impossible when your facing these same overpowered decks.
Yeah, I experience the same thing, cant help it, Paladin is a really strong class right now.
Tbh, most of the strategy games are similar, people want to play the strongest version (hero, weapon, unit, deck, class, etc whatever the best)
So?
I've been experiencing the same thing but want to get a golden rogue anyway so I've been playing Oil. Its fun to crush secret pali's with a deck with a much higher skill cap. Still annoying to play against them though.
Happy Feast of Winterveil, champion!
Yeah... there are a lot of Paladins on ladder (I don't know about casual, since I rarely play there), but I find them more annoying in Arena.
They are nerfing MC, they already said they are keeping a close watch on the card, which is the exact same thing they said with patron before nerfing it. On the other hand, how many midrange paladins are you facing? I love paladin and have been playing the class since I got tirion in one of my first packs back before Naxx and I always play midrange, with Quartermaster, Lay on Hands and such and honestly is not really strong now with all the priests, rogues and even secret paladin is a tough match if you don't get a good curve early. My point is, wait until they nerf MC and everyone who hated pally and just play it now because MC will go back to their face hunters.
http://blizzardwatch.com/2015/11/08/blizzcon-2015-hearthstone-fireside-qa/
I'm going to call bs until I see actual data.
My current two decks, 315 games, mostly in Legend, 22% Paladin.
Seriously though, is there a hard counter to Secret Paladin? People say Oil and Freeze, but from what I've seen, the win rate is around 50% against them. Is there a deck out there (Control Priest?) that has a 60%+ win rate against them?
Sadly I didn't run into many paladins this season. I still see a decent number in arena, but it's down to under 25%. I actually like the vs paladin matchup too.
You can't blame people for wanting to play the strongest class at the moment. It's how they have fun playing the game, like it or not. If you're that upset about it, perhaps you could use a deck that's generally good against Paladins (Freeze Mage, Face Hunter, any Priest). Then again, there's the question of whether you actually enjoy playing those decks, huh? Which is why I like to say that instead of getting upset, it might be easier on yourself if you just accepted it and played whatever you want, anyway. Afterall, it's still just a game.